auto?? - Page 2

07-23-2005, 08:51 PM

Nevar!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ThePunisher · 07-23-2005, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by 96stangGT

were all agreed lets just say this thread is closed

Can't handle the pressure huh?

Shambles · 07-23-2005, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by 96stangGT

were all agreed lets just say this thread is closed

This is smack talk buddy...

This thread aint closin anytime soon.

03stangblue · 07-24-2005, 12:24 PM

im a fan of a manual cause i think an exhaust sounds 10 times better with one cause u can ride the rpm's high and not even need to get on it.

and blue you pretty much just went outrageous with ur gears and stall and get slicks or dr's. i would do the same thing if i could buy a car that nice to basically make a track car. in that case i would do the same thing. but for a street car i think manuals are the way to go. there just not as boring.

ThePunisher · 07-24-2005, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by 03stangblue

im a fan of a manual cause i think an exhaust sounds 10 times better with one cause u can ride the rpm's high and not even need to get on it. but for a street car i think manuals are the way to go. there just not as boring.

I totally agree. Just wasnt a manual on the lot or within any reasonable distance when I bought mine.

ModMotorRacer · 07-24-2005, 12:53 PM

I'll race ANY 5-speed NA 96-04GT car...I have 247rwhp thru a 130,000 mile auto. Hows that for which one do I think is better.

At the track, about 50% of the people with a stick runs slicks, out of those only about 20% know how to set up there cars, so they are easy prey at the track. If you want the best ET out of the box, go with a stick. If you want consistency go with an auto.

Adam

Blue02GT · 07-24-2005, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by 03stangblue

im a fan of a manual cause i think an exhaust sounds 10 times better with one cause u can ride the rpm's high and not even need to get on it.

and blue you pretty much just went outrageous with ur gears and stall and get slicks or dr's. i would do the same thing if i could buy a car that nice to basically make a track car. in that case i would do the same thing. but for a street car i think manuals are the way to go. there just not as boring.

Did you read above? Mine is a daily driver that gets 23 mpg on the highway not a track car. All I did was what Ford should have in the first place. They make these cars for old ladies, it's up to us to help them out a bit.

ModMotorRacer · 07-24-2005, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by 03stangblue

im a fan of a manual cause i think an exhaust sounds 10 times better with one cause u can ride the rpm's high and not even need to get on it.

and blue you pretty much just went outrageous with ur gears and stall and get slicks or dr's. i would do the same thing if i could buy a car that nice to basically make a track car. in that case i would do the same thing. but for a street car i think manuals are the way to go. there just not as boring.

I have ridden in his car, the only thing that wasn't great was the ride because of the Steeda Sport springs. Which are coming off because they are SLOWING him down at the track. His car gets driven everyday, snow rain sleet hail etc. Deans car is probably one of the fastest truly daily driven cars that I know of. It will be mid 12's soon, which is quite a feat if you ask me.

Adam

96stangGT · 07-24-2005, 01:41 PM

ok what people here fail to see is if there was 2 total stock cars 1 manual 1 auto ...likely the manual would beat the auto in a race....if i lived in the city like NY, yeah i would get auto but for racing id deff go manual......how can u not agree????????????????????????????????????????????? ???????????????????

WaterDR · 07-24-2005, 02:00 PM

The auto vs. stick debate will never be over until the end of the world.

I say this "you can drive an auto Manustang, just so long as you know how to drive a stick". If there is some guy on this board who bought an auto just because he could not drive a stick, then you better learn fast or else we will torture you.

Auto, stick...who gives a dam. There are advantages of either. There are very fast cars that are autos and and some that are sticks. It all depends how your car is setup and which you prefer.

For consistent, fast launches it is tough to beat an auto with a converter and the right suspension mods.

07-24-2005, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by 96stangGT

ok what people here fail to see is if there was 2 total stock cars 1 manual 1 auto ...likely the manual would beat the auto in a race....if i lived in the city like NY, yeah i would get auto but for racing id deff go manual......how can u not agree????????????????????????????????????????????? ???????????????????

See dude, you are looking at the Mustang Auto tranny the same you would look at a honda auto tranny. If you are talking about a sedan or another non-performance sports car then yeah, THOSE auto's are way slower.

The Mustang GT's automatic transmission is pretty bitching, and you really gotta know what the hell yer doing and be able to do it consistantly to be able to consistanly beat the Auto.

So, what YOU fail to see is that if you had 2 stock Mustang GTs, one auto and one manual, me in the auto and you in the manual, i'd run yer ass consistantly. One you start getting really good you might beat me once in a while. Ive driven stick for the past 12 years, this is the first auto ive owned, and i doubt i would be able to beat the auto more than 50% of the time TOPS, and i am a pretty damn good driver. Once you get to the point when yer racing all the time and really know HOW to do it yeah you would probably whip me everytime.

Tell ya what though, on these boards you have a lot of people who claim they know how to drive and they have never even been to the track, and going to the track 5-10 times doesent make you a racer. Ill bet at least 7 out of 10 people on the message boards who claims they know what thier doing doesent know an exhaust tip from thier ass.
it takes years and years to get everything down right. No offence, but yer not that old, i'd have a very very very hard time believing you'd beat me even once out of 10 races in a manual vs my auto, stock fer stock.

You dont give the GT auto transmission enough credit, and give yourself way too much.

So far the ONLY thing i would agree with you one, is that manuals are definatly more fun and give you better control. The Auto xmission is a damn good xmission and it doesent F**k up, while people do.

Dont confuse fun with performance.

03stangblue · 07-24-2005, 03:35 PM

i havent heard of any real low 14 second 1/4 miles for stock autos. when i hear them about manuals all the time for the 99-04 gt.

Blue02GT · 07-24-2005, 03:42 PM

I have owned alot of cars since I am as old as dirt. All my muscle cars were manauls before this one. It's faster than my built 66 4 speed Mustang ever was and faster than my 76 400 4 speed Trans am, by alot. I really don't see any difference performance wise between the two type of transmissions other than it takes more skill and effort to drive a manual. I did not start this thread by insulting all automatic owners I have simply replied to the mis-information that has been spewed out. I would love to have a second new edge 2v GT with a manual, just not for my daily driver. Of course I would build the rear end and short block, add high lift cams and 4.56 gears and run 11's then drive it on the street to scare all you weinnies who think adding a shifter and some loud mufflers makes a fast ride.

03stangblue · 07-24-2005, 03:49 PM

i think a manual is good for someone who buys a car stock and isnt lookin to get into the 12's. but if your lookin to get into the 12's nothin will beat the consistancy of an auto.

Blue02GT · 07-24-2005, 04:19 PM

the fastest stock automatic GT time I have ever heard of was 14.0. Mine would not come close to that when it was still stock. I would bet it would have gone no better than a mid 14. The best manual p.i. GT time I have ever seen was a 13.7 something. With a real good driver a manual will beat an automatic simply from the launch. As I have stated in this thread in reality 99 percent of the manual GT's I have seen at the track ran 14.5 - 15.5's due to the skill or lack of by the driver. Racing a manual on street tires is not an easy task and I admire the racers who run low 14's and high 13's stone stock.

96stangGT · 07-24-2005, 06:14 PM

ok lets get back to the frickin point shall we..move all driver experience aside and everything else stock manuals are faster!!!!!!!!!!! with a perfect launch..a launch that looks like jennifer anistons body ! and a perfect launch that looks like shikera's badunka dunk shaking ...the manual will and always will come out faster giving you dont blow the engine... ok settled !!!!!!! if anyone with there auto stang wants to challenge me i will barrow my friends ferrari enzo ( manual ) and whip ur car <---figure of speech giving a 02 gt wanted to challenge me a stock 96 gt and say its fair !!! settled!!!!!!!!! :sign17:

07-24-2005, 06:38 PM

you really cant move driver experience aside. that is the key point to beating an auto. I have a buddy who is a phenominal driver, his ol man is a cop and being a cop's son he gets all kinds of fun perks, they let him go through thier training classes for highscpeed chases and stuff like that.
This guy can freakin drive.

Him in a manual vs my auto, yeah, he would run me every stinking time. However, any of my other buddys wouldnt have a chance of beating my auto.

Hell, when i first got my stang he wanted to give it a test drive, and i let him. Holy crap, we hit this area that winds through a golf course, 35mph speed limit with lots of turns, i can hit it about 60 and still feel like my stang will stick to the road.

This bastard, ok, ran that whole way going about 85mph, He hit those curves so fast that i was afraid to sneeze and cause that one final ounce of weight distribution that would send us smashing into the median and destroy my car before it even had 100miles on it. <rofl>

This dude can pull a hell of a launch, but what he does better than anyone ive met is corner. He can take a car to the edge and beyond where it is going to stick to the road and not lose control. Im not saying he is the best driver out there, but the best ive met.

yeah. he can run any auto with a manual if it is stock fer stock or similar mods.

you just cant assume you can do better than the auto xmission, yeah there are plenty of people who can, but a whole lot more who claim they can and cant.

Take yer stang and find somone with an auto with a similar year/setup, beat him twice in 5 trys, you will see it aint exactly easy.

So dont go trashing auto's if you dont know what yer talking about. It is a performance auto transmission, not some crap ass auto setup from a freakin minivan

:tool:

96stangGT · 07-24-2005, 06:58 PM

ok manual is faster if u think auto is well then :bs:

07-24-2005, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by 96stangGT

ok manual is faster if u think auto is well then :bs:

Sorry, i guess i shoulda made my answer a little bit shorter, im sure ready all those big words gave you a headache and probably made you upset.

If you get a chance, re-read my last post, and you will realize how stupid your last comment was

Here, lemme translate that to something you might understand.

Sry, i gess i shuda maed answur short. all dem bigazz wurds prolly twisted yer dome yo.

If u geta few secs plz, again-red lst post plz, an u realize u sho wack fo shizzle yo.

96stangGT · 07-24-2005, 07:24 PM

lets take a break....

ok im arguing with someone.do jet packs really exist..he doesnt think so . iv seen it on mail call ...help me

07-24-2005, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by 96stangGT

lets take a break....

ok im arguing with someone.do jet packs really exist..he doesnt think so . iv seen it on mail call ...help me

yeah they exist, they never made it much past a novelty of the rich, and that was probably 20 years ago. As i remember, they could only offer about 10-15 minuits of flying and were almost impossible to control. :BangHead:

heh, i saw a commercial for Mythbusters, they were trying to figure out if it is possible to do a full loop on a swingset, so they put thier crashtest dummp on the swing with what looked like a jetpack, his ass was flying all over the place. damn near fell outta my chair when i saw it

Badfish · 07-24-2005, 07:58 PM

another reason autos are faster is because with one its alot easier to put on makeup

USMCstang · 07-24-2005, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by ColoradoStang

and whoever said JOhn Force prefers an auto your'e a f'ing idiot.....first off the pro's "autos" have manual valvebodies, controlled and monitored by CPUs and they have all of like 3-5 seconds to shift going 200 miles per hour, so it's impossible to shift like a manual trans

Were you born retarded, or did you have to practice to get that good?

So he has an auto right? I mean, I can manually shift my auto, it's controlled and monitored by my EEC, and it shifts in less than a tenth of a second, so I guess I have a "pro" transmission.

Let's break this down in Barney-speak, so you can understand. If it doesn't have a third pedal that you have to push to shift, it's an auto. Guess what, F1 cars are autos too.

Not only do you sound like a complete ass for changing what I said (I never said he "prefers" an auto, I said point blank that its better, and that John Force is a perfect example of that), you re-iterated my point that an auto is better for drag racing than a manual.

The object of drag racing is to get from point "A" to point "B" is the shortest amount of time. That's why they invented things like delay boxes, trans-brakes, racing slicks, and wheelie bars, so that you know, every time, that you are going to do just that, and not have to worry about missing that pesky 1-2 shift while your front wheels are still off of the ground.

Shut yer mouth and go climb a mountain, new guy. :knob:

Badfish · 07-24-2005, 08:52 PM

doesnt matter what tranny you have..colors determine how fast a car goes...and yellow by far is the fastest

07-24-2005, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by SpringsStang

doesnt matter what tranny you have..colors determine how fast a car goes...and yellow by far is the fastest

Yah, yellow is a fast car, but black with rally stripes is faster. >

Rally stripes give you 250 extra rwhp, this has been proven through dyno testing. <grin>

ill bet that fuel door gave you an extra 10hp though!

07-24-2005, 12:53 PM	#36 (permalink)
ModMotorRacer Modular Misfit Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Iowa Posts: 329	I'll race ANY 5-speed NA 96-04GT car...I have 247rwhp thru a 130,000 mile auto. Hows that for which one do I think is better. At the track, about 50% of the people with a stick runs slicks, out of those only about 20% know how to set up there cars, so they are easy prey at the track. If you want the best ET out of the box, go with a stick. If you want consistency go with an auto. Adam __________________ www.modularmisfits.com 98GT NA Auto...12.61@109 NMRA Mod Muscle #10

07-24-2005, 01:41 PM	#39 (permalink)
96stangGT Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 37	ok what people here fail to see is if there was 2 total stock cars 1 manual 1 auto ...likely the manual would beat the auto in a race....if i lived in the city like NY, yeah i would get auto but for racing id deff go manual......how can u not agree????????????????????????????????????????????? ??????????????????? __________________ 96 GT with only 45,000 mi.

07-24-2005, 02:00 PM	#40 (permalink)
WaterDR Administrator Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 6,370	The auto vs. stick debate will never be over until the end of the world. I say this "you can drive an auto Manustang, just so long as you know how to drive a stick". If there is some guy on this board who bought an auto just because he could not drive a stick, then you better learn fast or else we will torture you. Auto, stick...who gives a dam. There are advantages of either. There are very fast cars that are autos and and some that are sticks. It all depends how your car is setup and which you prefer. For consistent, fast launches it is tough to beat an auto with a converter and the right suspension mods. __________________ Black 2000 GT Vert: Novi-2000 with Intercooler (375rwhp @ 9 psi); Tune by Kauffmans; Roush 380R Body kit; Steeda Subframes; Steeda Strut Tower Support; Deep Dish Bullets; FRPP 4:10's; SCT 4 Position Chip with four custom tunes; Steeda CAI; C&L Pleum; BBK 75 TB; SLP Loudmouth; SLP Catted X-Pipe; Bullitt Suspension; UPR Conrol Arms; Focus Fuel Pump My Car My Email

07-24-2005, 03:42 PM	#43 (permalink)
Blue02GT Ex Mini Smack King Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: St. Louis Posts: 868	I have owned alot of cars since I am as old as dirt. All my muscle cars were manauls before this one. It's faster than my built 66 4 speed Mustang ever was and faster than my 76 400 4 speed Trans am, by alot. I really don't see any difference performance wise between the two type of transmissions other than it takes more skill and effort to drive a manual. I did not start this thread by insulting all automatic owners I have simply replied to the mis-information that has been spewed out. I would love to have a second new edge 2v GT with a manual, just not for my daily driver. Of course I would build the rear end and short block, add high lift cams and 4.56 gears and run 11's then drive it on the street to scare all you weinnies who think adding a shifter and some loud mufflers makes a fast ride. __________________ True Blue 2002 GT Premium 4r70W 1/8 8.205@ 84.780 1/4 12.874@ 107.20 Bolt on's n/a NMRA #7703 Dyno'd at Modular Depot 251 hp. 291 Tq. 4.30's, 3500 Stall converter, Steeda upper & Lowers, Tokico drag struts, M & M frame connectors, P & A valve body, C&L plenum, Accufab 75mm TB, Jet Hot Long tubes, Hooker O/R X, Steeda catback,SCT tune,Steeda pullies.

07-24-2005, 04:19 PM	#45 (permalink)
Blue02GT Ex Mini Smack King Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: St. Louis Posts: 868	the fastest stock automatic GT time I have ever heard of was 14.0. Mine would not come close to that when it was still stock. I would bet it would have gone no better than a mid 14. The best manual p.i. GT time I have ever seen was a 13.7 something. With a real good driver a manual will beat an automatic simply from the launch. As I have stated in this thread in reality 99 percent of the manual GT's I have seen at the track ran 14.5 - 15.5's due to the skill or lack of by the driver. Racing a manual on street tires is not an easy task and I admire the racers who run low 14's and high 13's stone stock. __________________ True Blue 2002 GT Premium 4r70W 1/8 8.205@ 84.780 1/4 12.874@ 107.20 Bolt on's n/a NMRA #7703 Dyno'd at Modular Depot 251 hp. 291 Tq. 4.30's, 3500 Stall converter, Steeda upper & Lowers, Tokico drag struts, M & M frame connectors, P & A valve body, C&L plenum, Accufab 75mm TB, Jet Hot Long tubes, Hooker O/R X, Steeda catback,SCT tune,Steeda pullies.

07-23-2005, 08:51 PM	#31 (permalink)
Jack The Ripper Posts: n/a	Nevar!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

07-24-2005, 12:24 PM	#34 (permalink)
03stangblue Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 81	im a fan of a manual cause i think an exhaust sounds 10 times better with one cause u can ride the rpm's high and not even need to get on it. and blue you pretty much just went outrageous with ur gears and stall and get slicks or dr's. i would do the same thing if i could buy a car that nice to basically make a track car. in that case i would do the same thing. but for a street car i think manuals are the way to go. there just not as boring.

07-24-2005, 03:35 PM	#42 (permalink)
03stangblue Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 81	i havent heard of any real low 14 second 1/4 miles for stock autos. when i hear them about manuals all the time for the 99-04 gt.

07-24-2005, 03:49 PM	#44 (permalink)
03stangblue Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 81	i think a manual is good for someone who buys a car stock and isnt lookin to get into the 12's. but if your lookin to get into the 12's nothin will beat the consistancy of an auto.

07-24-2005, 06:14 PM	#46 (permalink)
96stangGT Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 37	ok lets get back to the frickin point shall we..move all driver experience aside and everything else stock manuals are faster!!!!!!!!!!! with a perfect launch..a launch that looks like jennifer anistons body ! and a perfect launch that looks like shikera's badunka dunk shaking ...the manual will and always will come out faster giving you dont blow the engine... ok settled !!!!!!! if anyone with there auto stang wants to challenge me i will barrow my friends ferrari enzo ( manual ) and whip ur car <---figure of speech giving a 02 gt wanted to challenge me a stock 96 gt and say its fair !!! settled!!!!!!!!! :sign17: __________________ 96 GT with only 45,000 mi.

07-24-2005, 06:38 PM	#47 (permalink)
Jack The Ripper Posts: n/a	you really cant move driver experience aside. that is the key point to beating an auto. I have a buddy who is a phenominal driver, his ol man is a cop and being a cop's son he gets all kinds of fun perks, they let him go through thier training classes for highscpeed chases and stuff like that. This guy can freakin drive. Him in a manual vs my auto, yeah, he would run me every stinking time. However, any of my other buddys wouldnt have a chance of beating my auto. Hell, when i first got my stang he wanted to give it a test drive, and i let him. Holy crap, we hit this area that winds through a golf course, 35mph speed limit with lots of turns, i can hit it about 60 and still feel like my stang will stick to the road. This bastard, ok, ran that whole way going about 85mph, He hit those curves so fast that i was afraid to sneeze and cause that one final ounce of weight distribution that would send us smashing into the median and destroy my car before it even had 100miles on it. <rofl> This dude can pull a hell of a launch, but what he does better than anyone ive met is corner. He can take a car to the edge and beyond where it is going to stick to the road and not lose control. Im not saying he is the best driver out there, but the best ive met. yeah. he can run any auto with a manual if it is stock fer stock or similar mods. you just cant assume you can do better than the auto xmission, yeah there are plenty of people who can, but a whole lot more who claim they can and cant. Take yer stang and find somone with an auto with a similar year/setup, beat him twice in 5 trys, you will see it aint exactly easy. So dont go trashing auto's if you dont know what yer talking about. It is a performance auto transmission, not some crap ass auto setup from a freakin minivan :tool:

07-24-2005, 06:58 PM	#48 (permalink)
96stangGT Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 37	ok manual is faster if u think auto is well then :bs: __________________ 96 GT with only 45,000 mi.

07-24-2005, 07:24 PM	#50 (permalink)
96stangGT Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 37	lets take a break.... ok im arguing with someone.do jet packs really exist..he doesnt think so . iv seen it on mail call ...help me __________________ 96 GT with only 45,000 mi.

07-24-2005, 07:58 PM	#52 (permalink)
Badfish Listen to reggae. Join Date: May 2005 Location: Colorado Springs, CO Posts: 8,801	another reason autos are faster is because with one its alot easier to put on makeup __________________ '04 2.3l Evo '86 GSXR 750

07-24-2005, 08:52 PM	#54 (permalink)
Badfish Listen to reggae. Join Date: May 2005 Location: Colorado Springs, CO Posts: 8,801	doesnt matter what tranny you have..colors determine how fast a car goes...and yellow by far is the fastest __________________ '04 2.3l Evo '86 GSXR 750