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mustangman95gt 04-10-2009 10:15 AM


Originally Posted by Deathdiesel (Post 399598)
Clear coat, like a clear bra? or what?

Thats pretty much what it is. Think of it as in invisible bra. My boss put one on his BMW 7 series and he didn't have problems for a long time. *NOTE* This clear film(by 3M) does NOT stop scratches on your car by your wife hitting a dear! It stops those everyday rock dings and such.

Deathdiesel 04-10-2009 10:16 AM

Aaah so somehing like this? http://www.stangmods.com/VentureShie...it-p/00939.htm

mustangman95gt 04-10-2009 10:19 AM


Originally Posted by Deathdiesel (Post 399605)

I hate to say it but that would be the cheap route. That one is probably decent but not as good as the 3M film. I could buy that Mothers kit for you at meijers and ship it to you for less that $39.99 + shipping if you wanted. I wish I could sell some of the stuff we use at the shop but its kind of a secret and it isn't cheap. For example, the clay bars we use, when we buy them in bulk, the cost is $22 each for 500!!

Deathdiesel 04-10-2009 10:22 AM

Im gunna check autozone to see if they have it, or something like it first. :P thanx tho.

mustangman95gt 04-10-2009 10:41 AM


Originally Posted by Deathdiesel (Post 399608)
Im gunna check autozone to see if they have it, or something like it first. :P thanx tho.

No problem. Just let me know if you need it. Or have any other questions about car care/cleaning.

Deathdiesel 04-10-2009 03:09 PM

Hmm ill be honest idk ANYTHING about waxing, my dad showed me how to wash a car fine but detail no. :( Below is what i got to wax/detail my car. Anything wrong with it besides the armorall? http://i607.photobucket.com/albums/t...l/100_0118.jpg http://i607.photobucket.com/albums/t...l/100_0119.jpg http://i607.photobucket.com/albums/t...l/100_0120.jpg http://i607.photobucket.com/albums/t...l/100_0121.jpg

Steeda97 04-10-2009 03:15 PM

Go to autogeek.net or detailers domain and start reading.

Deathdiesel 04-10-2009 03:18 PM

Actually am atm :D

the gillz 04-10-2009 04:05 PM

i like to wash with dawn on front bumper, then wash w/ carwash soap, then claybar, then wash w/ car wash soap again, then wax. I do it before summer and after summers over, hasnt let me down yet. It does have paint chips in it tho but you cant tell unless you are right up on it. from far away the glare hides most of the chips

Deathdiesel 04-10-2009 04:48 PM

Fortunatly my car doesnt have any paint chips but, it does have parts where paint has been like scuffed off on the fiberglass.I think my mom or dad must and dinged the fuck outa my front and back of my car, because there are allota spots on front bumper and rear that are black little spots almost like paint chips.

spike_africa 04-10-2009 06:18 PM


Originally Posted by Steeda97 (Post 399705)
Go to autogeek.net or detailers domain and start reading.

No love for http://autopia.org/index.php

mustangman95gt 04-10-2009 07:57 PM


Originally Posted by Deathdiesel (Post 399702)
Hmm ill be honest idk ANYTHING about waxing, my dad showed me how to wash a car fine but detail no. :( Below is what i got to wax/detail my car. Anything wrong with it besides the armorall?

For the love of mustangs PLEASE DO NOT use Armorall!! Armorall is a cover-up. It doesn't clean. It puts a shiney layer on top of your dirt and moves it around a little. Essentially, and what we say when people ask about it at our shop is, "it makes the dirt shiney." I recommend for the interior of your car; take a microfiber or terry towel and a bucket of hot water. Dip the towel in hot water, ring it out and whip it over the surface you want clean. Then dry it off with a towel. Then pick up an aerosol duster with straw nozel and spray that in all the cracks that water might have slipping while whipping it down. This will make your interior like the showroom floor again. It will return that brand new look to it(with exception of scratches and such) It will not make it mirrored with shiney dirt like armorall does.

Deathdiesel 04-10-2009 08:19 PM

Yea from what ive heard im never using armorall again, my family refuses to listen though.

WNRacing 04-10-2009 08:22 PM


Originally Posted by mustangman95gt (Post 399826)
For the love of mustangs PLEASE DO NOT use Armorall!! Armorall is a cover-up. It doesn't clean. It puts a shiney layer on top of your dirt and moves it around a little. Essentially, and what we say when people ask about it at our shop is, "it makes the dirt shiney." I recommend for the interior of your car; take a microfiber or terry towel and a bucket of hot water. Dip the towel in hot water, ring it out and whip it over the surface you want clean. Then dry it off with a towel. Then pick up an aerosol duster with straw nozel and spray that in all the cracks that water might have slipping while whipping it down. This will make your interior like the showroom floor again. It will return that brand new look to it(with exception of scratches and such) It will not make it mirrored with shiney dirt like armorall does.

Armorall has silicone in the protectant. It soaks into the pores of whatever material you put it on and OVER TIME can dry out, expand and can crack your dash panel or any other surface. This takes a LONG time to happen, and usually only happens to people who very rarely put protectant on their interior.. That said, I have not and will not ever use any armor all product anywhere on my car. Period.

Your hot water approach is good.. For cleaning the surface, but if you don't use a protectant afterwards it will be all for naught. I highly recommend DP total interior cleaner and pretectant. After using this I will never use anything else on the inside of my car. It's slightly more time consuming because you have to use the cleaner first then apply the protectant after, but it's worth it. http://autogeek.net/dptoinco.html Yes, it's more expensive than the $5 bottle of Armor all, but again.. It's woth it.

Deathdiesel 04-10-2009 08:26 PM

Im actually probably gunna buy this, because i could use some MF pads + all the other junk. http://www.autogeek.net/pin410.html Anyone have anything to mention about it? Like whether its a good deal or brand or vice versa.

WNRacing 04-10-2009 08:34 PM

To answer your question above.. Those are some decent products, I personally think that Meguiars makes the best wheel/ tire cleaner that you can buy over the counter, never had any experience with the "son of a gun!" stuff, but who knows it may be pretty good.

The Meg's tech wax is decent, the only real downside to that is the fact that it only lasts for a max of about 3-4 months before you will need to claybar and re-apply it.

Be careful with that buffer, wool pads aren't exactly the best thing in the world.. Especially for applying simple wax. I assume that the pad came with the buffer, so the quality most likely is pretty lacking. If you use it, just don't apply much pressure use the buffer to help you spread and break down the wax, it certainly won't help remove any swirls or marring.

As far as your wash stuff, it looks decent. The best advice I can give about any sponge or wash mit is this.. Clean it. Every time you wash your car, clean the mit thoroughly. They can trap small particles of dirt or debris and will scratch or etch the paint.

Also, go to auto zone and get a Mothers clay bar kit. They sell them for about $20. It is a medium clay and works just fine. If you've never clayed your car before, the best tip I can give is to keep the area WET, you DO NOT want the clay to stick to the car. Don't be afraid to clay your car, it's extremely simple and leaves the surface baby-butt smooth, ready for a good coat of polish/wax. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcZRj509Ir8

WNRacing 04-10-2009 08:36 PM


Originally Posted by Deathdiesel (Post 399840)
Im actually probably gunna buy this, because i could use some MF pads + all the other junk. http://www.autogeek.net/pin410.html Anyone have anything to mention about it? Like whether its a good deal or brand or vice versa.

It doesn't get much better than Pinnacle, having never used it though I honestly can't give you a proper review. That stuff is too expensive for my blood. If you've got the cash for it, then go for it. Personally, I'd save my money, return that buffer and buy a porter cable kit so you can properly polish & wax your car. :p

http://www.autogeek.net/porter-cable-7424-kit.html

mustangman95gt 04-10-2009 08:42 PM


Originally Posted by Deathdiesel (Post 399840)
Im actually probably gunna buy this, because i could use some MF pads + all the other junk. http://www.autogeek.net/pin410.html Anyone have anything to mention about it? Like whether its a good deal or brand or vice versa.

Lets put it this way. I would not waste that much money on it but a lot of that stuff is personal opinion.

Deathdiesel 04-10-2009 08:50 PM

Eh its like a 30$ buffer with no speed adjuster, i personally dont think its worth 120$ when you can buy one like it for prbly 50. But thanks allot for that link above it really helped.

WNRacing 04-10-2009 08:51 PM


Originally Posted by Deathdiesel (Post 399848)
Eh its like a 30$ buffer with no speed adjuster, i personally dont think its worth 120$ when you can buy one like it for prbly 50. But thanks allot for that link above it really helped.

I'm not sure that I understand this post.. Are you saying that you could get a porter cable buffer for $50? <-- confused.

Deathdiesel 04-10-2009 08:56 PM


Originally Posted by WNRacing (Post 399850)
I'm not sure that I understand this post.. Are you saying that you could get a porter cable buffer for $50? <-- confused.

Not that one exactly but like, one thats still a 2 way rotation and not as much $. And maaaan i was lookin at some of those videos and hell i figured id do this! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtA_R...eature=related I mean man its bulletproof, how could it go bad or look shitty? :owned:

WNRacing 04-10-2009 09:01 PM


Originally Posted by Deathdiesel (Post 399851)
Not that one exactly but like, one thats still a 2 way rotation and not as much $. And maaaan i was lookin at some of those videos and hell i figured id do this! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtA_R...eature=related I mean man its bulletproof, how could it go bad or look shitty? :owned:

You won't find a buffer with the capability of the PC for $50.. Sorry, just not gonna happen.

And those guys are some of the smartest I've ever seen. I especially like how he sprayed so much that it ran down the side of the car.

Deathdiesel 04-10-2009 09:02 PM

Lol i know they are so brilliant that they even read the back of the can!!! And yeah im sure it wont be near as good as the one youre talkin about but 120$ just seems like it could be spent elsewhere ya know?

WNRacing 04-10-2009 09:13 PM


Originally Posted by Deathdiesel (Post 399855)
Lol i know they are so brilliant that they even read the back of the can!!! And yeah im sure it wont be near as good as the one youre talkin about but 120$ just seems like it could be spent elsewhere ya know?

It's an investment in your car.. If you learn how to use it correctly it will keep your car looking showroom for a long, long time. I guess I just have slightly different priorities, plus I have two cars of my own plus my fiances to keep clean & looking good as well as cleaning my dad's cars every once in a while. I wouldn't know what to do without my PC anymore..

I guess when you consider that the average good detail is approaching $100 or more, much more in some cases.. You should ask 03gtmustang how much he charges to detail cars.. You'd probably be sick to your stomach.

Take a look at this.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LSle_WgexQ

Deathdiesel 04-10-2009 09:23 PM


Originally Posted by WNRacing (Post 399858)
It's an investment in your car.. If you learn how to use it correctly it will keep your car looking showroom for a long, long time. I guess I just have slightly different priorities, plus I have two cars of my own plus my fiances to keep clean & looking good as well as cleaning my dad's cars every once in a while. I wouldn't know what to do without my PC anymore..

I guess when you consider that the average good detail is approaching $100 or more, much more in some cases.. You should ask 03gtmustang how much he charges to detail cars.. You'd probably be sick to your stomach.

Take a look at this.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LSle_WgexQ

Lol man thats crazy, hes one lucky SOB. Gets to make awsome cars look orgasmic.

mustangman95gt 04-10-2009 10:18 PM


Originally Posted by WNRacing (Post 399858)
I guess when you consider that the average good detail is approaching $100 or more, much more in some cases

thats gotta be a crappy detail for that kind of money. here is an example of the work we do: complete detail (every square inch inside and out) $239 on a car. 7-10 HOURS on that car. I don't know what crappy job people are getting for $100

Deathdiesel 04-10-2009 10:25 PM

Idk i do all the detailing for any of our cars..lol

Deathdiesel 04-11-2009 08:43 PM

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Went to autozone, bought some shit. Am i missing anything? Attachment 19043

Steeda97 04-11-2009 08:59 PM

A polish.


I just made a purchase on autogeek.net today. Finally got a PC. Got the same starter kit that WN posted with all the pads, pad cleaner/conditioner, and I bought

Pinnacle Advanced Swirl Remover
Pinnacle Advanced Polish

and I already have Pinnacle Souveran wax.

Been doing it all by hand and i just cant get the swirls completely gone. I figure it'll pay for itself once i detail a few peoples cars.

Deathdiesel 04-11-2009 09:01 PM

Define polish, like link it please? Also the rubbing compound i bought is used almost like sandpaper to get out scratches right?

spike_africa 04-12-2009 07:50 AM

Go return the rubbing compound you don't need that.

Deathdiesel 04-12-2009 12:59 PM

Whats it do then? Like im using it to get rid of scratches and etc. Isnt it somewhat like a fine sandpaper?

BlueOvalFanatic 04-12-2009 01:28 PM

I second Spikes suggestion. Rubbing compounds are what you'd use for heavy oxidation, dull paint, or scratches...and theres alot of different grades of abrasives.

Deathdiesel 04-12-2009 01:44 PM

Yea i know theres different grades, and i was gunna use the rubbing compound for like, some scratches and etc. I believe the grade ofit is like 39002, or thats just a random number. Tried to get someone to help at autozone but noone would. Is it that same as this? http://www.autogeek.net/megscratxfin.html

spike_africa 04-12-2009 03:39 PM

no its not the same at all, take that crap back you don't need it. I would take back the quick detailer and get their new version in the black bottle. Its much better then the original one in the red bottle that you have.

SnTBakosFinest 04-12-2009 05:12 PM


Originally Posted by mustangman95gt (Post 399872)
thats gotta be a crappy detail for that kind of money. here is an example of the work we do: complete detail (every square inch inside and out) $239 on a car. 7-10 HOURS on that car. I don't know what crappy job people are getting for $100

Aside from the fact that you work for a company who charges markup, as well as other fees.

Rubbing compound isn't what you're going to want.

And yea, the quick detailer in the black bottle is pretty good...

Also, the liquid wax stuff is pretty decent if you can find some..

WNRacing 04-12-2009 05:32 PM


Originally Posted by SnTBakosFinest (Post 400341)
Aside from the fact that you work for a company who charges markup, as well as other fees.

Rubbing compound isn't what you're going to want.

And yea, the quick detailer in the black bottle is pretty good...

Also, the liquid wax stuff is pretty decent if you can find some..

Meguiars has good products, but their main problem lands sqarely on the longevity of the product itself. With just about any over the counter wax you're looking at having to re-apply within 3 months or so, that obviously depends heavily on where you store your car and the normal climate for your area... Some of the Megs professional series (cream colored bottles) do last longer, but you'll pay about the same for them as you would a true professional wax or polish from Autogeek, Autopia, etc..

I do use the Megs quick detail spray (black bottles) from time to time, but I'll probably be switching to Poorboys or DP when I run out of it.

Deathdiesel 04-12-2009 05:36 PM

I got the detail bottle with a clay bar kit. So to get out small scratches what do i want? Like can you name it specifically for me please.

Becka 04-12-2009 10:21 PM


Originally Posted by Deathdiesel (Post 400344)
I got the detail bottle with a clay bar kit. So to get out small scratches what do i want? Like can you name it specifically for me please.


!!repainted!! lol haha

Deathdiesel 04-12-2009 10:22 PM

Lol well for the big ones, im using touchup paint bought from the dealer. Then smoothin it out and etc.


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