A waxing question.

Must See · 01-11-2008, 07:39 PM

After i wash my car then put the wax on I notice when im taking the wax off it seems to leave a greasy film on it. It goes away once i wash it again or gets wet in general. Ive tried several different waxes and still get the same result. Any suggestions on how to fix this issue. You can only really tell theres a greasy film if your in direct sunlight/light.

I know they have some skilled detailers on these boards and your input would be appreciated.

*03gtmustang* · 01-11-2008, 08:34 PM

Exactly what kind of wax are you using, what kind of soap, what are you removing the wax with, was there anything applied to the car previously?

PColav6 · 01-11-2008, 09:12 PM

I'm willing to bet you're using a liquid wax (ie meguiar's GC liquid) and not shaking the bottle up enough, so that when you apply it you're really just smearing on all of the oils and not much wax.

Must See · 01-11-2008, 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 03gtmustang

Exactly what kind of wax are you using, what kind of soap, what are you removing the wax with, was there anything applied to the car previously?

I think im using the meguiers wax, as for the soap im using the stuff you can buy at walmart. and no there wasnt anything applied to the car previously. I like to use a microfiber cloth to remove the wax. Like i said ive done about every possible method to put the wax on and get the wax off and even did different waxes. You think maybe using a clay bar would help?

Must See · 01-11-2008, 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PColav6

I'm willing to bet you're using a liquid wax (ie meguiar's GC liquid) and not shaking the bottle up enough, so that when you apply it you're really just smearing on all of the oils and not much wax.

hmm good to know, never thought about it like that. The dad applys the wax so not sure if he shakes it up or not. I just take the wax off.

WaterDR · 01-11-2008, 09:39 PM

Sounns to me like you are using too much product.

*03gtmustang* · 01-11-2008, 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Must See

I think im using the meguiers wax, as for the soap im using the stuff you can buy at walmart. and no there wasnt anything applied to the car previously. I like to use a microfiber cloth to remove the wax. Like i said ive done about every possible method to put the wax on and get the wax off and even did different waxes. You think maybe using a clay bar would help?

It could the several things. The weather, old product, or user error. Make sure you're following the directions on the bottle. The coats should be very thin.

suckinit · 01-12-2008, 07:58 PM

Make sure you are applying it and taking it off with a rag that was not used for anything else like polish.

Make sure you are out of the sun.

Strip any old wax when you wash the car with some dish soap.

Make sure the wax is fully hazed before removing

Tell your dad to not use so much

PColav6 · 01-12-2008, 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Must See

hmm good to know, never thought about it like that. The dad applys the wax so not sure if he shakes it up or not. I just take the wax off.

Why don't you apply it? lol

Must See · 01-12-2008, 10:23 PM

I do sometimes, just not all the time, he voluntarily did it.....

*03gtmustang* · 01-12-2008, 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by suckinit

Make sure you are applying it and taking it off with a rag that was not used for anything else like polish.

Make sure you are out of the sun.

Strip any old wax when you wash the car with some dish soap.

Make sure the wax is fully hazed before removing

Tell your dad to not use so much

Using dish soap to strip wax is an old myth. Not all waxes have to haze before removing them.

suckinit · 01-13-2008, 09:42 AM

03gtmustang: you are the must full of yourself person I know. Prove me wrong about the dish soap, give me a link. Otherwise you are just spouting more BS

and most quality waxes will need to haze. Go burrow your nose in some more animal porn

spike_africa · 01-13-2008, 12:09 PM

The dish soap thing is a myth. Some waxes/sealants like poorboys can be used in the sun so you have to see what it says on the bottle. Also not all waxes like he said have to haze before being taken off. Again poorboys and some other you can do the whole car let it sit for an hour or long then take it off. Or you can put it on wait a min or two then take it off. It depends on the product your using.

Using a clean microfiber towel for removing polish/wax is a biggie like he said. Alot of times people I have dealt with have problems because they use dirty or overly used towels to remove the product from the car.

You also need to relax we dont need a pissing match over waxing methods.

DaGonz · 01-13-2008, 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by suckinit

Make sure you are applying it and taking it off with a rag that was not used for anything else like polish.

Make sure you are out of the sun.

Strip any old wax when you wash the car with some dish soap.

Make sure the wax is fully hazed before removing

Tell your dad to not use so much

and

Quote:

03gtmustang: you are the must full of yourself person I know. Prove me wrong about the dish soap, give me a link. Otherwise you are just spouting more BS

and most quality waxes will need to haze. Go burrow your nose in some more animal porn

It is painfully obvious that you don't know a damn thing about detailing.

Keeping using that turtle wax, rag and armorall, kid.. I'll bet your car is a real "showpiece"...

*03gtmustang* · 01-13-2008, 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by suckinit

03gtmustang: you are the must full of yourself person I know. Prove me wrong about the dish soap, give me a link. Otherwise you are just spouting more BS

and most quality waxes will need to haze. Go burrow your nose in some more animal porn

I dont know who the hell you think you are, but I dont have to prove crap to you. Dawn is a myth that floats around car forums for whatever reason. Dont believe me? Fine, keep washing cars with dish soap.

I like how you go from telling the guy the wax needs to haze (without even knowing what it is), to saying most quality waxes need to haze. What I said is 100% correct, "not all waxes have to haze before removing them." Get your shit straight.

*4.6 Love* · 01-13-2008, 11:06 PM

Lmao @ the noobies..

*venom* · 01-14-2008, 08:52 AM

I use gasoline to remove wax. Just drive up to the gas station and pour it from the pump

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suckinit · 01-14-2008, 02:11 PM

http://www.afinerdetail.com/facts-n-foto.php
"Can I use dish soap to wash my car?
Dish soaps work great on dishes, that is why they are called “dish soaps”. The truth is, many dishwashing soaps are not pH balanced and can actually strip the wax off the car!"

http://www.moparmusclemagazine.com/h..._to/index.html
"1) Liquid dish soap is as good as anything for your car care.

Actually,dish soap strips away your wax's protective layers..."

suckinit · 01-14-2008, 02:20 PM

"http://www.focusfanatics.com/forum/showthread.php?t=119552"

Big thread about it.

*03gtmustang* · 01-14-2008, 10:37 PM

http://www.afinerdetail.com/facts-n-foto.php Sorry, but that doesnt mean anything. Any moron can make a website saying whatever they want.

"The truth is, many dishwashing soaps are not pH balanced and can actually strip the wax off the car!"

What happens when you dilute the wash with water like you're supposed to? The wash becomes more neutral. In order for a wash to strip wax, it needs to be very alkaline.

http://www.moparmusclemagazine.com/h..._to/index.html So why is the paint still sheeting and beading after a wash with Dawn?

http://www.focusfanatics.com/forum/s...d.php?t=119552 Like I said, its a myth that floats around car forums.

For every link you post about using Dawn, I could post one that says not to use Dawn. So keep doing whatever it is you do. But dont act like a little baby when I offer an opinion that differs from yours.

01-11-2008, 07:39 PM	#1 (permalink)
Must See 8-2=6 Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Houston,TX Posts: 1,881	A waxing question. After i wash my car then put the wax on I notice when im taking the wax off it seems to leave a greasy film on it. It goes away once i wash it again or gets wet in general. Ive tried several different waxes and still get the same result. Any suggestions on how to fix this issue. You can only really tell theres a greasy film if your in direct sunlight/light. I know they have some skilled detailers on these boards and your input would be appreciated. __________________ Exhaust clip Last edited by Must See : 01-11-2008 at 09:30 PM.

01-11-2008, 08:34 PM	#2 (permalink)
03gtmustang Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Northern Va Posts: 3,260	Exactly what kind of wax are you using, what kind of soap, what are you removing the wax with, was there anything applied to the car previously? __________________ D&D Auto Detailing -Dan

01-11-2008, 09:12 PM	#3 (permalink)
PColav6 Wants a mach.. Join Date: May 2006 Location: Pensacola, Florida Posts: 4,838	I'm willing to bet you're using a liquid wax (ie meguiar's GC liquid) and not shaking the bottle up enough, so that when you apply it you're really just smearing on all of the oils and not much wax. __________________

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01-12-2008, 10:23 PM	#10 (permalink)
Must See 8-2=6 Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Houston,TX Posts: 1,881	I do sometimes, just not all the time, he voluntarily did it..... __________________ Exhaust clip

01-12-2008, 07:58 PM	#8 (permalink)
suckinit Member Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 51	Make sure you are applying it and taking it off with a rag that was not used for anything else like polish. Make sure you are out of the sun. Strip any old wax when you wash the car with some dish soap. Make sure the wax is fully hazed before removing Tell your dad to not use so much

01-13-2008, 09:42 AM	#12 (permalink)
suckinit Member Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 51	03gtmustang: you are the must full of yourself person I know. Prove me wrong about the dish soap, give me a link. Otherwise you are just spouting more BS and most quality waxes will need to haze. Go burrow your nose in some more animal porn

01-13-2008, 12:09 PM	#13 (permalink)
spike_africa Administrator Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Orlando,Florida Posts: 7,796	The dish soap thing is a myth. Some waxes/sealants like poorboys can be used in the sun so you have to see what it says on the bottle. Also not all waxes like he said have to haze before being taken off. Again poorboys and some other you can do the whole car let it sit for an hour or long then take it off. Or you can put it on wait a min or two then take it off. It depends on the product your using. Using a clean microfiber towel for removing polish/wax is a biggie like he said. Alot of times people I have dealt with have problems because they use dirty or overly used towels to remove the product from the car. You also need to relax we dont need a pissing match over waxing methods. __________________ Dustin 2002 GT Mustang 5-Speed Drag Radials,Sprayed,Powershifted WOOO HOOOO! Last edited by spike_africa : 01-13-2008 at 12:12 PM.

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01-14-2008, 08:52 AM	#17 (permalink)
venom Super Moderator Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 5,508	I use gasoline to remove wax. Just drive up to the gas station and pour it from the pump . __________________ http://www.mustangboards.com/mustang...500/ppuser/103

01-14-2008, 02:11 PM	#18 (permalink)
suckinit Member Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 51	http://www.afinerdetail.com/facts-n-foto.php "Can I use dish soap to wash my car? Dish soaps work great on dishes, that is why they are called “dish soaps”. The truth is, many dishwashing soaps are not pH balanced and can actually strip the wax off the car!" http://www.moparmusclemagazine.com/h..._to/index.html "1) Liquid dish soap is as good as anything for your car care. Actually,dish soap strips away your wax's protective layers..."

01-14-2008, 02:20 PM	#19 (permalink)
suckinit Member Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 51	"http://www.focusfanatics.com/forum/showthread.php?t=119552" Big thread about it.

01-14-2008, 10:37 PM	#20 (permalink)
03gtmustang Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Northern Va Posts: 3,260	http://www.afinerdetail.com/facts-n-foto.php Sorry, but that doesnt mean anything. Any moron can make a website saying whatever they want. "The truth is, many dishwashing soaps are not pH balanced and can actually strip the wax off the car!" What happens when you dilute the wash with water like you're supposed to? The wash becomes more neutral. In order for a wash to strip wax, it needs to be very alkaline. http://www.moparmusclemagazine.com/h..._to/index.html So why is the paint still sheeting and beading after a wash with Dawn? http://www.focusfanatics.com/forum/s...d.php?t=119552 Like I said, its a myth that floats around car forums. For every link you post about using Dawn, I could post one that says not to use Dawn. So keep doing whatever it is you do. But dont act like a little baby when I offer an opinion that differs from yours. __________________ D&D Auto Detailing -Dan Last edited by 03gtmustang : 01-14-2008 at 10:44 PM.

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