superchargers

thundergod · 02-08-2006, 04:40 PM

ok this question is going to stir alot of debate. I have 02 gt with auto and want to know which centrifical superchargers offer'sthe best low end torque.

*Lances03SVT* · 02-08-2006, 04:44 PM

Kenne Bell/end thread

thundergod · 02-08-2006, 04:53 PM

to much doe.

TEXASPAUL · 02-08-2006, 04:57 PM

u asked which is best....
there it is......

thundergod · 02-08-2006, 05:07 PM

i asked which centrifical made the most low end torque. kenne bell is a roots type.

whitethunder46 · 02-08-2006, 05:10 PM

Well it definately is Kenne Bell.

BUT you asked for centri.

Here's my thoughts....

Vortech is the most reliable consistant blower out they're, GREAT for a daily driven car IMO

Paxton is good as well but is aimed more for a drag setup and achieves good 1/4 mile times.

Procharger is a good all around blower plus comes intercooled BUT has it's problems with reliability.

For your question forget Paxton because it builds its PSI a little later in the RPM band. Procharger will get better 1/4 mile times than the Vortech with same set up USUALLY. I would say procharger hands down IF they're was absolutely no chance of leaky seals also they come intercooled always. Other than this I would say a Vortech is a good safe reliable choice. Also the procharger has a loud whistle, you might or might not like that.

thundergod · 02-08-2006, 05:13 PM

thanks for responding. i was thinking procharger what are some of the problems they have.

whitethunder46 · 02-08-2006, 05:20 PM

Leaky seals. A lot of them. Only the P-1sc does tho, they're self contained oil head units so this is why seals are critical. Some people say the stage 2 p-1sc are different head units than the p-1sc. The only difference however is just the intercooler, stage 2 has a 3 core and the 1st one only has a 2 core. They're is about a 300 dollar difference between the two but DEFINATELY get the stage 2. It's kinda risky IMO about the leaky seals tho, but they're the best since they're intercooled.

thundergod · 02-08-2006, 05:23 PM

thanks again.

jeredan2003 · 02-08-2006, 07:33 PM

Leave the Wife and Go TURBO!! :banana: :banana:

stanger00 · 02-08-2006, 08:40 PM

it depends on the car. you see my numbers with a vortech v2 s trim 12#'s of boost 14* of timing. my friends procharged 03 is at 380 rwhp and 390 rwtq 13#'s of boost at 16*'s of timing.

whitethunder46 · 02-08-2006, 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stanger00

it depends on the car. you see my numbers with a vortech v2 s trim 12#'s of boost 14* of timing. my friends procharged 03 is at 380 rwhp and 390 rwtq 13#'s of boost at 16*'s of timing.

You're intercooled

I was talking non intercooled for the vortech since youd have to pay a pretty penny more to make it intercooled. If you wanted to get an intercooler for the Vortech than I would get the Vortech hands down.

stanger00 · 02-08-2006, 09:34 PM

thunder dude should buy the vortech/paxtona/a setup on miles per hour. 3500 for everything good deal.

whitethunder46 · 02-08-2006, 10:27 PM

That's the tuner set up aint it?

foncarelli · 02-08-2006, 10:42 PM

Go with the Mongoose and a higher stall converter.

Lightning247 · 02-08-2006, 11:07 PM

Torque and centrifugal blower really don't belong in the same sentence. It's just intrinsic to their nature. If you're bent on centri blowers (they are relatively inexpensive, used kits go for 1200-1500 all the time) then Vortech is a tried and true unit. You'll max out the stock shortblock before you will the blower, so there's no worry there. If your looking for a little more i'd go Novi 2000. I've heard of too many problems with the prochargers, but some have had positive experiences.

Hope that helps.
Philip K.

Badfish · 02-08-2006, 11:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lightning247

Torque and centrifugal blower really don't belong in the same sentence. It's just intrinsic to their nature. If you're bent on centri blowers (they are relatively inexpensive, used kits go for 1200-1500 all the time) then Vortech is a tried and true unit. You'll max out the stock shortblock before you will the blower, so there's no worry there. If your looking for a little more i'd go Novi 2000. I've heard of too many problems with the prochargers, but some have had positive experiences.

Hope that helps.
Philip K.

:stupid: I'm getting a Novi in June

Stevoneo · 02-08-2006, 11:55 PM

1st question would be how much power are you wanting.

Procharger is good with numbers but have many issues. And warantee wont cover those.

Vortech is a better choice if your wanting between 350-400hp
if you want to get your 400hp you need and air/air intercooler. Dont go with the water to air. that is ment for dragrace only, and the one they have sucks.
I recommend going to procharger for the 3core air to air intercooler and get the vortech for what you are wanting.

If you plan on building up your stock block later down the road, you can pay the 1300 for an upgraded head unit

3V2000GT · 02-09-2006, 01:09 PM

just get the turbonator......... add 35hp for 70 bucks...just puut 10 of them in there...ha ha jk

THE.....2000GT

spike_africa · 02-09-2006, 04:14 PM

moved to power adders where a supercharger question would go.

And for low end any roots blower would give best down low power. But do you really want that?

GT4DUMMIES · 02-09-2006, 08:17 PM

I don't know why kids persist on spreading stupid rumors that have no truth in them. The ATI is proably the best system availble... no problems (every manufactor will have issues at some time thought - fact of life). KB - not worth it and not that fast - more fun (maybe at low speed) - however for the price of a Kb you can get a twin turbo - thats what im doing - and blows the doors off s/c cars - no comparision - anyway ATI is the best system for the money and THE most reliable - again unless you know from experience ( YOUR SELF) plz don't comment - vortech are trash - novi is good (2000 - 2000RR - only) - basically go with stage 2 ATi - you'll be happy - about 4k for everything installed from a shop that knows what theyre doing:foot:

stanger00 · 02-09-2006, 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GT4DUMMIES

I don't know why kids persist on spreading stupid rumors that have no truth in them. The ATI is proably the best system availble... no problems (every manufactor will have issues at some time thought - fact of life). KB - not worth it and not that fast - more fun (maybe at low speed) - however for the price of a Kb you can get a twin turbo - thats what im doing - and blows the doors off s/c cars - no comparision - anyway ATI is the best system for the money and THE most reliable - again unless you know from experience ( YOUR SELF) plz don't comment - vortech are trash - novi is good (2000 - 2000RR - only) - basically go with stage 2 ATi - you'll be happy - about 4k for everything installed from a shop that knows what theyre doing:foot:

your ghey. go back to cliff mounting your goats.

dom · 02-10-2006, 10:43 AM

procharger f4 will give more power and torque than a KB

dom · 02-10-2006, 10:44 AM

and as far as p1sc's sucking, i have a p1sc and a 2 core intercooler and made 450rwhp and 500rwtq with stock heads cams & intake THROUGH AN AUTO

02-08-2006, 04:40 PM	#1 (permalink)
thundergod Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 116	superchargers ok this question is going to stir alot of debate. I have 02 gt with auto and want to know which centrifical superchargers offer'sthe best low end torque.

02-08-2006, 04:44 PM	#2 (permalink)
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whitethunder46 Always Detailin' Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Dayton, OH Posts: 3,556	Well it definately is Kenne Bell. BUT you asked for centri. Here's my thoughts.... Vortech is the most reliable consistant blower out they're, GREAT for a daily driven car IMO Paxton is good as well but is aimed more for a drag setup and achieves good 1/4 mile times. Procharger is a good all around blower plus comes intercooled BUT has it's problems with reliability. For your question forget Paxton because it builds its PSI a little later in the RPM band. Procharger will get better 1/4 mile times than the Vortech with same set up USUALLY. I would say procharger hands down IF they're was absolutely no chance of leaky seals also they come intercooled always. Other than this I would say a Vortech is a good safe reliable choice. Also the procharger has a loud whistle, you might or might not like that. __________________ supernissans.net 2001 Mustang GT - Saleen Replica - SOLD 2007 Nissan Sentra 2.0S http://www.cardomain.com/ride/3022272

02-08-2006, 05:20 PM	#8 (permalink)
whitethunder46 Always Detailin' Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Dayton, OH Posts: 3,556	Leaky seals. A lot of them. Only the P-1sc does tho, they're self contained oil head units so this is why seals are critical. Some people say the stage 2 p-1sc are different head units than the p-1sc. The only difference however is just the intercooler, stage 2 has a 3 core and the 1st one only has a 2 core. They're is about a 300 dollar difference between the two but DEFINATELY get the stage 2. It's kinda risky IMO about the leaky seals tho, but they're the best since they're intercooled. __________________ supernissans.net 2001 Mustang GT - Saleen Replica - SOLD 2007 Nissan Sentra 2.0S http://www.cardomain.com/ride/3022272

02-08-2006, 04:53 PM	#3 (permalink)
thundergod Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 116	to much doe.

02-08-2006, 05:07 PM	#5 (permalink)
thundergod Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 116	i asked which centrifical made the most low end torque. kenne bell is a roots type.

02-08-2006, 05:13 PM	#7 (permalink)
thundergod Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 116	thanks for responding. i was thinking procharger what are some of the problems they have.

02-08-2006, 05:23 PM	#9 (permalink)
thundergod Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 116	thanks again.

02-08-2006, 07:33 PM	#10 (permalink)
jeredan2003 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Murfreesboro, TN Posts: 1,788	Leave the Wife and Go TURBO!! :banana: :banana: __________________ 2003 DSG GT 5-speed Hellion 62mm and Flowmaster catback..... My bonestock 2v engine had been through 2 years of NX 100 shot, 3 years running 8-12lbs vortech s-trim, got into boost daily while racing on the weekends, had 157,000 miles on it, and was running like new

02-08-2006, 10:27 PM	#14 (permalink)
whitethunder46 Always Detailin' Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Dayton, OH Posts: 3,556	That's the tuner set up aint it? __________________ supernissans.net 2001 Mustang GT - Saleen Replica - SOLD 2007 Nissan Sentra 2.0S http://www.cardomain.com/ride/3022272

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foncarelli Everyday Im Hustlin Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Ecorse, Michigan Posts: 3,648	Go with the Mongoose and a higher stall converter. __________________

02-08-2006, 11:07 PM	#16 (permalink)
Lightning247 Huge Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Charlotte/ Winston Salem, NC Posts: 233	Torque and centrifugal blower really don't belong in the same sentence. It's just intrinsic to their nature. If you're bent on centri blowers (they are relatively inexpensive, used kits go for 1200-1500 all the time) then Vortech is a tried and true unit. You'll max out the stock shortblock before you will the blower, so there's no worry there. If your looking for a little more i'd go Novi 2000. I've heard of too many problems with the prochargers, but some have had positive experiences. Hope that helps. Philip K. __________________ 1997 Rio Red Cobra: 2700 of 6961 Tri-Ax \| BBK O/R H-Pipe \| Dynomax Race Bullets \| WMS High Velocity Intake \| Steeda UD Pullies \| T56 6 Speed \| NGK-TR6 \| 03/04 Cobra Al Driveshaft \| 11 " DD SHD Perf. Clutch Kit \| Fidanza Flywheel \| Innovative LC-1 \| Venom VCN 1000 125 jet \| Walbro 255 \| 42 lb Injectors \| 90MM LMAF \| Detroit TruTrac \| Motive lightened 4.56 \| Moser 31 Spline \| BBS RGR Diamond Black \| P-Zero's 271rwhp / 265tq 11.7 A/F 376rwhp / 451tq 100 Shot no tuning

02-08-2006, 11:55 PM	#18 (permalink)
Stevoneo Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Virginia Beach, VA Posts: 598	1st question would be how much power are you wanting. Procharger is good with numbers but have many issues. And warantee wont cover those. Vortech is a better choice if your wanting between 350-400hp if you want to get your 400hp you need and air/air intercooler. Dont go with the water to air. that is ment for dragrace only, and the one they have sucks. I recommend going to procharger for the 3core air to air intercooler and get the vortech for what you are wanting. If you plan on building up your stock block later down the road, you can pay the 1300 for an upgraded head unit __________________ 2004 Mach 1 - New Baby Numbers Coming Soon 2001 Mustang GT - In Mustang Heaven 399.65 RWHP 384 Torque

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3V2000GT 46MONSTER Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Wheaton, IL Posts: 2,209	just get the turbonator......... add 35hp for 70 bucks...just puut 10 of them in there...ha ha jk THE.....2000GT __________________ 2000 GT Black on Tan, TKO 600: 370rwhp 370rwtq NA Built 3v 2004 Honda CBR 600 F4i Black/Red 2000 SVT Lightning Silver i love jinny!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!! lucky is awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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spike_africa Administrator Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Orlando,Florida Posts: 7,205	moved to power adders where a supercharger question would go. And for low end any roots blower would give best down low power. But do you really want that? __________________ Dustin 2002 GT Mustang 5-Speed Drag Radials,Sprayed,Powershifted WOOO HOOOO!

02-09-2006, 08:17 PM	#21 (permalink)
GT4DUMMIES Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 107	Lies I don't know why kids persist on spreading stupid rumors that have no truth in them. The ATI is proably the best system availble... no problems (every manufactor will have issues at some time thought - fact of life). KB - not worth it and not that fast - more fun (maybe at low speed) - however for the price of a Kb you can get a twin turbo - thats what im doing - and blows the doors off s/c cars - no comparision - anyway ATI is the best system for the money and THE most reliable - again unless you know from experience ( YOUR SELF) plz don't comment - vortech are trash - novi is good (2000 - 2000RR - only) - basically go with stage 2 ATi - you'll be happy - about 4k for everything installed from a shop that knows what theyre doing:foot:

02-10-2006, 10:43 AM	#23 (permalink)
dom whos gonna ban me next? Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: baltimore, MD Posts: 1,268	procharger f4 will give more power and torque than a KB __________________ 2007 explorer limited procharged 2002gt sold new project: 427w c4 9" fox

02-10-2006, 10:44 AM	#24 (permalink)
dom whos gonna ban me next? Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: baltimore, MD Posts: 1,268	and as far as p1sc's sucking, i have a p1sc and a 2 core intercooler and made 450rwhp and 500rwtq with stock heads cams & intake THROUGH AN AUTO __________________ 2007 explorer limited procharged 2002gt sold new project: 427w c4 9" fox