trnin

what "if any" parameters should be changed using my predator once i get the venom 1000 kit.....ill be using the 75-100 shot.........thanx trnin

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spike_africa

I moved this to the correct thread for ya.

As for the tuner you should take out a few degree's of timing from the stock timing curve, and add a bit more fuel.

but i will warn you that you should be using a wide band air/fuel guage to see the air fuel on the bottle as at home tuning doesnt always work without a a/f guage.

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stanger00

and that damn wide band is expensive let me tell you. just go and get it tuned since you have a predator it should cost about 200 bucks more for a tune.

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WaterDR

The Venom is self-tuning and as long as you stick with the standard nozzles that come with the kit, you will be fine. There is no such thing as a dyno tune with a Venom, because the Venom computer supliments the fuel addition, not the ECU.

As far as the the tuner is concerned, do not ever spray with your timing advanced. You can use the tuner to retard your timing or just leave the timing stock. But you will be safer if you retard your timing about 1 - 2 degrees especially if you are running stock heat range plugs.

You can add more fuel if yu want. This is probably not a bad idea, but not neccesary either. By richening up your a/f with the tuner, the ECU will call for more fuel and then when you spray, the Venom will just add a tad less. But, I fear you may end up running too rich, but that is not such a bad thing.

Dynos that I have seen with cars running Venom nitrous typically start out lean and then level out. Tuners go nuts over this, but I know of not one single case where a motor has been ruined on a Venom system. I read my plugs and the only time where I see them get white is when I am spraying a lot, but they are never so white where you need to worry. In your case, you should be able to reduce this spike by richening up your fuel trims.

The Venom systems are vary safe, designed to run on a stock car, and is a great system for the guy who is worried about his motor and does not mind being a little conservative with the juice.

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spike_africa

opps i am sorry he is rigth the venom will adjust for its self, but like i said you need to run stock or take some timing out of the stock tune, and adding a hair of fuel would be wise.

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wpgfordguy

AGREED, and switch to copper plugs NGK TR6 are always a good bet

procs2v

don't trust the venom system to adjust anything. on the dyno my car went lean and never got better. With a tune it was good on ever pass.If you get this system get a bottle heater after having mine I will never run it without it.

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Samsstang

You can not go wrong with a tune! The Venom system will adjust SOME parameters but you need the Tune as with any other Nitrous system to extract the most power out of it!

Example:
Stock Tune; 321rwhp & 416rwtq
Nitrous Tune; 361rwhp & 475 rwtq

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WaterDR

Holy crap Sam, was that using the same shot and bottle presure?

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Samsstang

Blake that was with the custom Silver nozzle 100shot (not the one that comes with the kit) The bottle pressure is very important 950 -1000 and of course more fuel!

Venom says a lot of things in there manual that are not needed ie;
1- Bottle Heater
2- Nitrous pressure gauge
3- Purge
4- No xtra fuel or bigger inj. or pump

This is all due to the fact that yes the computer in the kit does adjust itself
but when the computer senses low bottle pressure for example then it cant give you the full shot! neither can any other system
When it senses a lean mixture due to pump or injectors being maxed out again it wont deliver the full shot! and in some cases it will shut off which is what i believe is designed to do!
Thats why i would get so many inconsistent runs One week the car would pull hard run low 13s! following week no change and the car pull a high 13
The system is great and very safe Ive had it for 5+ years but without all the other variables it cant deliver to its full potential.
Iam very happy with the car now. Hits high 12s @ 5000+ ft above sea level so just imagine what you can do at those lower elevations?

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