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Old 12-04-2004, 10:46 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default The most reliable Power Adder???

I've heard so many things that I'm confused!!!
I've heard turbos are good for racing and not much else....
Superchargers.... well honestly, don't know to much about them...
Blowers.... Whats the best one for the buck?

thanks guys... hopefully sombody can clear this mess up?
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Old 12-04-2004, 02:37 PM   #2 (permalink)
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dont forget about nitrous to.

now if we are gonna talk about the most reliable that debate can go on forever. i would say any blower or turbo, at a low boost level will be very reliable.

as for best dollar to power, that goes to nitrous hands down. if it was me and i wanted some extra power but no strain on the motor all the time, i would use nitrous. but mostly because i am not a fan of turbos or blowers really.
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Old 12-04-2004, 02:52 PM   #3 (permalink)
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From what I read ^^^^ is right about the bang for the buck boost of nitrous...

Now I'm not a fan of that stuff, mostly cause it's not street legal here so I'm looking into the different blowers. From what I've read... psi for psi... Turbos will give u more power at the wheels then a SC would... u get more bang for your buck with the wear on your engine... as far as bang for your buck out of the wallet, Superchargers are definitely the way to go... you can find any number of systems that are considerably cheaper then the better turbo systems around... turbos are a pain to put together and an even bigger headache to install so they tend to demand a premium in price compared to super chargers...

You gotta figure out what you're looking for...
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Old 12-04-2004, 03:06 PM   #4 (permalink)
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From what I read ^^^^ is right about the bang for the buck boost of nitrous...

Now I'm not a fan of that stuff, mostly cause it's not street legal here so I'm looking into the different blowers. From what I've read... psi for psi... Turbos will give u more power at the wheels then a SC would... u get more bang for your buck with the wear on your engine... as far as bang for your buck out of the wallet, Superchargers are definitely the way to go... you can find any number of systems that are considerably cheaper then the better turbo systems around... turbos are a pain to put together and an even bigger headache to install so they tend to demand a premium in price compared to super chargers...

You gotta figure out what you're looking for...
R U SURE that nitrous is not street legal where you live? It's a common misconception about it.

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Old 12-04-2004, 09:35 PM   #5 (permalink)
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If you want something that you dont have activated all the time, and that you can have a tune for nitrous and one for 87 octane, go with the nitrous. Its there when you want it, ( granted the bottle is full) and its only about 1k for a REALLY good setup. Superchargers are good as well, as they are cheaper than a turbo setup and the make decent amounts of power. The main thing about reliable power adders is the tune. You could have the best possible setup, but if your air/fuel ratio goes lean, you can melt a piston on anything. Good luck.
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Old 12-05-2004, 06:17 AM   #6 (permalink)
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I've heard so many things that I'm confused!!!
I've heard turbos are good for racing and not much else....
Superchargers.... well honestly, don't know to much about them...
Blowers.... Whats the best one for the buck?

thanks guys... hopefully sombody can clear this mess up?
lol
thanks
Another idea you didn't mention is a good port and polish job.With a good exhaust,a set of cams matched to the port work,and an intake system,you can make over 400rwhp.Completely reliable,it's always there(no empty bottle),the cost is about the same as turbo/Sc install.Superchargers look cheaper in the beginning because the exhaust is not considered part of the installation,where turbo installation includes the special exhaust.
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Old 12-07-2004, 09:35 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Nitrous = best bang for the buck
Supercharger = constant power
Turbo= don't last long and take extra care to maintain

although nitrous adds up everytime you pay to fill the bottle and would have to be careful your sensible with it and not run to much power. For the same price of nitrous you can get CAMS that is constant power and around 500 plus they sound awesome.
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Old 12-07-2004, 03:03 PM   #8 (permalink)
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dont forget about turbo lag
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Old 12-07-2004, 03:04 PM   #9 (permalink)
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I am a fan of superchargers especially the Twin Screw Kenne Bell.....power starts at low RPM's and goes through the whole power band. With 9psi Intercooled kit and a good tune you can get real close to 400rwhp
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Old 12-07-2004, 04:43 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Another idea you didn't mention is a good port and polish job.With a good exhaust,a set of cams matched to the port work,and an intake system,you can make over 400rwhp.Completely reliable,it's always there(no empty bottle),the cost is about the same as turbo/Sc install.Superchargers look cheaper in the beginning because the exhaust is not considered part of the installation,where turbo installation includes the special exhaust.

please show me one..just one 2v N/A car over 370 rwhp. Cams and p&p heads add close to 60 or 70 hp...not 150-200 hp.
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Old 12-08-2004, 10:40 AM   #11 (permalink)
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A 2V N/A 400 hp.... naw I cant see that one happening. 4V ok ya thats possible cuz im going for that in my mach.. but not a 2V
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Old 12-09-2004, 11:02 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Thanks for all the input guys!!!
This car sits outside and I have to drive it in all conditions...
so the lower the compression ratio... the better...
I'm still alittle mixed... Although I am leaning more to a supercharger...

Is the Kenne Bell supercharger good with a stock motor? Or what do you suggest?
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Old 12-09-2004, 11:30 AM   #13 (permalink)
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ya kenne bell is good. check into whipple and paxton before deciding... and remember its what you want... not what others think
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Old 12-09-2004, 11:32 AM   #14 (permalink)
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ya kenne bell is good. check into whipple and paxton before deciding... and remember its what you want... not what others think

I know.... I've heard nothing but good things about Kenne Bell and the twin screw supercharger... procharger is pretty good too with their self-contained systems...
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Old 12-09-2004, 11:42 AM   #15 (permalink)
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ya man... now me i would do the procharger with intercooler and spray CO2 into it. And use a booster cooler... Oh soo much difference.
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Old 12-09-2004, 11:44 AM   #16 (permalink)
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That sounds nice and all but I don't have an unlimited money pile just waiting for me to tap into it... lol (although I wish I did)
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Old 12-09-2004, 11:45 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Get the October issue of "Mustangs and other Fast Fords" magazine. They go in depth with all the bolt on blowers and accessaries. I read it and it made me glad I dont have a Cobra with factory supercharger. You can seriously kill your power plant if your tune aint right. ie~ timing, spark advance, etc..

I would look into it before I would purchase any forced induction system unless you got money to burn and don't need to drive to work.. LOL
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Old 12-10-2004, 08:29 AM   #18 (permalink)
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I would look into it before I would purchase any forced induction system unless you got money to burn and don't need to drive to work.. LOL


I wish that was the case....
Thanks for the input man... I'll def look into that
before I do anything to my baby...

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Old 12-26-2004, 07:04 AM   #19 (permalink)
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My opinion, KB 9psi kit with a good tune, great power all the time. But all that matters is what you want, just remeber its all in the tune. With a good tune you will have no worries as long as you stay under redline.
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