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Old 10-24-2009, 12:32 PM
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i have 96 gt i just put nitrous on it . its a compucar kit and i have it jetted for 90 hp. i use a msd window switch and a wot switch . well i went to try it today and its not working right .it will kick in for a second and then my motor will start popping ... i checked to make sour i got right jets in and i do . ihad 950 psi in bottle . any help would be great i just got everything done and was planning on going to track tom.
 
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Old 10-24-2009, 12:52 PM
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could this be from haveing air the the nitrous line i dont have a purge kit
 
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Old 10-24-2009, 01:07 PM
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well i tried a few things , i disconnect my window switch and i grounded the solenoids to a ground and turned my arming switch on and when i push the wot switch both solenoids click so im good there .... could it be that my nozzle is to far away its about 10 inches from the throtle body.
 
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Old 10-24-2009, 01:28 PM
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well i was messing aroung with it a lil more and i noticed when i push the wot switch the lights dim with the motor running . and then i blew the fuse , i have it wired to cigar lighter , the arming switch and the window switch both , the fuse is only a 30 amp. could this be a problem .
 
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Old 10-24-2009, 01:30 PM
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and my bottle warmer is also on same fuse and i had it on
 
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Old 10-24-2009, 01:40 PM
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Not to be a dick, but can't you keep this all in 1 post? LOL

Good luck though, Spike should be able to help and who ever else.
 
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Old 10-24-2009, 02:28 PM
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i also checked the window switch and its giving ground for what i have it set at
 
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Old 10-24-2009, 04:16 PM
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Have you pulled the lines have a buddy hold them into a cup or something with a glove on, and activate the solenoids with the bottle on.

Also are you sure the jetting is correct..it sounds like you're hitting a sensor and the jetting is too rich or lean..

Also you should really put the warmer and everything on a different fuse..it sounds like its just drawing too many amps..

As far as the popping I'll almost bet that you're jetted too lean..had that issue with me... try to fatten the shot up a little bit..maybe by 1-2 jet sizes.
 

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Old 10-24-2009, 05:15 PM
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i checked jets again and they are right 33 for fuel and 46 for nitrous
 
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Old 10-24-2009, 06:23 PM
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The motor starts popping? like small backfires?

Are you using a Hobbs switch aka fuel pressure safety switch?
 
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Old 10-25-2009, 01:27 AM
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not that i know of
 
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Old 10-25-2009, 05:26 AM
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there is what looks to be ajustable fuel pressure regulator
 
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Old 10-25-2009, 06:49 AM
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You don't know if you installed a fuel pressure safety switch.

Does it look like this:


If so those cause all kinds of problems. And me I hated mine so much that I got rid of it after about 4 days of trying to make it work right. Been great ever since as long as the fuel system is good.

That's what it sounds like to me, unless the motor is actually backfiring in the motor or exhaust, which you never answered me about.
 
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Old 10-25-2009, 01:31 PM
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no i did not install one of them . the poppong it coming from motor . and today when i was working on it a lil bit i took the gas line off the nozzle and put in can and activated noids with the key on and it would only spray once . also took car to track today and the first pass i blew the intake ...and i was not using nitrous.
 
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Old 10-27-2009, 02:27 PM
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anyone???
 
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Old 10-27-2009, 06:31 PM
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maybe a weak fuel pump? I'd still re-check all of the nitrous wiring and run a separate power wire from the battery to power the relays.
 
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Old 10-28-2009, 06:25 AM
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So you blew the intake manifold not using nitrous, impossible. I am willing to bet you wired the fuel noid wrong and it was constantly spraying fuel into the intake manifold. Don't worry its happened before.

Did it really blow and break the manifold or did it just backfire? I have had a few small backfires in the manifold that never hurt it.
 
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Old 10-28-2009, 01:47 PM
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i had the solenoids lines off , it cracked near the therm. housing.
 
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Old 10-29-2009, 06:39 AM
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That's an entire different issue. That's your full plastic intake manifold getting the very common breakage right there. That's the reason Ford went to a metal coolant crossover in the late01-04 GT's. Looks like its time for an upgrade to a PI intake manifold with a metal coolant crossover. You get a better manifold that won't do that and you get some more HP too, win/win if you ask me. You also need to figure out whats up with your nitrous kit.

Did you test the nitrous noid to see if its spraying actual nitrous out when you tested it? or did you test it with the bottle closed.
 
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Old 10-29-2009, 12:06 PM
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+1 on what spike said..have you ran a test spraying the nitrous/fuel mixture into a bottle or something to be sure they are working correctly..

As I previously asked and got no response..

I'm going to say you aren't getting any nitrous to the system..

Is your bottle filled up? =)
 
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Old 10-29-2009, 04:19 PM
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yes i tried both noids one at a time and both sprayed but the nitrous had alot of air in the line at first ...and i just got a pi intake from tuff 4.6....
 
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Old 10-30-2009, 06:05 AM
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You need to test them both hooked up to make sure they are working at the same time.
 
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Old 11-20-2009, 02:45 PM
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finally got my nitrous to work , i rewired it using a relay this time and everything worked , i just tried it today with to 90 hp jets , what do i need to do to run a 125 shot ?
 
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Old 11-21-2009, 02:20 PM
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Pull it and pray lol. Whats your fuel setup right now?
 
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Old 11-21-2009, 09:21 PM
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wrong thread.
 

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Old 11-22-2009, 05:05 AM
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im not 100% sure .... i think the car had nitrous on it befor because there where holes no mount the bottle and you can tell someone tapped into the coil , but as far as i know its stock pump but there is an adjustable fuel pressure regulater and there was a fuel presssue gauge on the fuel rail . `
 
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Old 11-22-2009, 10:10 AM
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I would be worried about what fuel pump is in the car before I sprayed it with a 125hit.
 
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Old 11-22-2009, 04:58 PM
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i need more nitrous ...i went to track today and the best time i could get was 13.9 , is it me or the car.. i thought i would closer to low 13s with mods i have .. i have 4:10 gears , shorty headers , 75 mm tb, 90hp spray, short throw shifter , Mt et tires , i just thought i shoud have had better times .
 
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Old 11-22-2009, 05:09 PM
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oh and off road h pipe and flowmasters
 
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Old 11-22-2009, 05:47 PM
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Its hard to say without seeing the 60' and trap speeds and knowing the weather conditions and elevation. You have to keep in mind you have a shitty non PI headed motor so its not gonna run the times us PI headed cars run. Still I would of though you would have a better time.
 


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