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Old 08-19-2009, 08:57 PM
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Question Nitrious

Ive looked it up yes... read all the stuff on it yes... But I know some of you guys have it and I'd like some info on it 1st hang exper.

How safe is a lower shot like 50 for the car that is DD alot...
Can you engage the system on the fly, like redlight racing
With the wide open throttle when you shift does the nos stop or start again?
Tune needed for under a 75 shot?
Bigger fuel pump/ jets?

I think John? palm coast you have nos, could you let me go for a ride someday or something so I can see how it really works?

And with my bass from the system will it affect the bottle if its in the trunk? Is their another mounting location since I really dont have room in the trunk?
Clean looking at least.
 
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Old 08-19-2009, 09:56 PM
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50 shot would be really safe, but you'll want more than just a 50 shot trust me lol. You can run a 75 shot without a tune, but I'd always suggest one. No fuel upgrades are needed. Yes it can be engaged on the fly, as all you have to do is arm the activation switch, assuming your bottle is already open.
 
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Old 08-19-2009, 10:38 PM
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What the **** is Nitrious? Haha


You central FL guys love the juice don't you, something must be going on over there.
 
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Old 08-19-2009, 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by PColav6
What the **** is Nitrious? Haha


You central FL guys love the juice don't you, something must be going on over there.
Blame it on the D.D.D.D.D.D.D.D.Dustin LOL

There may be one more sprayed six once I have some money LOL.
 
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Old 08-20-2009, 07:32 AM
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I have a nitrous kit for sale.... brand new.
 
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Old 08-20-2009, 12:49 PM
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but is it at brand new price?
 
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Old 08-20-2009, 12:50 PM
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whitestang we are going to have the dam god dam cars lol
 
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Old 08-20-2009, 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Rlrider
Ive looked it up yes... read all the stuff on it yes... But I know some of you guys have it and I'd like some info on it 1st hang exper.

How safe is a lower shot like 50 for the car that is DD alot...

The lower the hit, the safer. You will notice 50, but don't kid yourself. You will want 100. DD or no DD, it is all about the safety equipment and the tune.

Can you engage the system on the fly, like redlight racing

Depends on the system etc... If you have a switch-type chip, then yes. Otherwise, you still can, but you will have to drive on a nitrous tune when not using nitrous. The reality is....if you are planning on spraying, you really have to be ready for it anyway. Such as filled bottle, heated bottle, and correct tune. Don't kid yourself into thinking you can just turn it on or off at whim. If you need it for the ocassional stop light cuz you want to beat-up a Camaro, it won't work unless your bottle is loaded, heated,, and ready to go anyway. Most people don't drive around that way all the time.

With the wide open throttle when you shift does the nos stop or start again?

If you have a WOT switch it stops spraying when you are NOT at WOT. So, if you are between gears, if you take your foot off the pedal, then it stops.....if you leave your foot in it all the way, it still sprays.

Tune needed for under a 75 shot?

In reality, it depends on the system. Some systems self-tune and can work well for small shots. You are better off setting it up with a tune and just plan on running a 100 shot.

Bigger fuel pump/ jets?

Depends on the shot size and other mods. Technically, a bigger fuel pump and injectors is always a better idea. Some say you can run 75 on stock fuel system and some say you can run a 100. It is all about risk minimization and how much risk you are willing to handle.

I think John? palm coast you have nos, could you let me go for a ride someday or something so I can see how it really works?

And with my bass from the system will it affect the bottle if its in the trunk? Is their another mounting location since I really dont have room in the trunk?
Clean looking at least.
You want the bottle in the trunk. You need to decide what is more important bass or going fast. Do you really want nitrous sitting inside the car with you?
 
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Old 08-20-2009, 03:50 PM
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You can put the bottle wherever you want with a proper blow down tube.
 
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Old 08-20-2009, 05:51 PM
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nitrous is da bees nees lol put a 75 wet and call it a day
 
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Old 08-20-2009, 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by whitestang04
You can put the bottle wherever you want with a proper blow down tube.
Blowdown tube or no blowdown tube, do you know how much space 10 lbs of nitrous will occupy at atmosphere?
 
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Old 08-20-2009, 10:53 PM
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I have enough room in the trunk for a smaller bottle buts thats about it...
 
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Old 08-20-2009, 11:21 PM
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Originally Posted by WaterDR
Blowdown tube or no blowdown tube, do you know how much space 10 lbs of nitrous will occupy at atmosphere?
I have a pretty good idea but that doesn't matter a proper blow down tube will vent the nitrous outside the vehicle if the pressure gets high enough to rupture the burst disk. I myself am not a fan of mounting the bottle in the passenger compartment but it is no different than having nitrous in a hatchback or the cab of a truck. Many people have mounted their bottles to a rear seat delete or the floor right behind one of the front seats.
 
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Old 08-21-2009, 09:26 AM
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thats what I was thinking of doing. Putting it behind the passenger seat. But I have enough room between the sub box and the rear seats to mount a smaller bottle as well.

Also how much is it to refill a bottle?

And will a good deal of bass affect the bottle and cords etc etc....

I was planning on running the safest set up if I got it. Warmer, all the switches and checks, remote opener, etc...

How much would a tune be?

Im assuming dyno tune?
 
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Old 08-21-2009, 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Rlrider
thats what I was thinking of doing. Putting it behind the passenger seat. But I have enough room between the sub box and the rear seats to mount a smaller bottle as well.

Also how much is it to refill a bottle?

And will a good deal of bass affect the bottle and cords etc etc....

I was planning on running the safest set up if I got it. Warmer, all the switches and checks, remote opener, etc...

How much would a tune be?

Im assuming dyno tune?
You can put it behind the seat safely but the police may not be to keen about it https://mustangboards.com/power-adde...hlight=nitrous I am not sure but some states might also have a law requiring the bottle to be out of the driver's reach. You may want to check into that.

John will be able to say for sure but I think he said it was $3-$3.50 per pound in your area.

As far as tunes go you could get just a tuner from AM and they offer a free nitrous tune up 75hp IIRC, this is more of a safety tune than a performance tune. You can get a dyno tune for $600 at VMP for best performance while staying safe.
 
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Old 08-21-2009, 02:32 PM
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action in daytona is 3.50lb and i run no blowdown tube or purge on my kit.....waste of money imo
 
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Old 08-22-2009, 11:47 AM
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Dont you need them for track use tho?
 
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Old 08-22-2009, 01:12 PM
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This is really in the wrong place. Moving to Power Adder tech.....

Fact of the matter is a 75 wet shot is very safe on the v6 cars and you do not need a tune for it. Will it be safer? If you think getting a tune to pull 1-2* of timing is really needed then I guess so. Me I would get a wet nitrous kit from anyone you like, minus venom, and then install it and add 1 step colder spark plugs and be sure to have 93 in the tank when you spray and you will be fine. You don't need a heater,purge,opener to have a safe kit. Those just make it easier or make the kit work better. If you have 6-7" of room behind the rear seat you can install a regular standard 10lb nitrous bottle.

And I am getting everyone hooked on it
 

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Old 08-22-2009, 02:45 PM
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Dustin you really need to post a huge nitrous post. I read the sticky and I've searched but there is still tons more I would like to know about nitrous since my car has it set up, just needs the bottle filled.
 
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Old 08-22-2009, 02:53 PM
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That's what we are all here for, to help each other out. Make a post with any questions you have and I am sure myself and many of the other members can help you out.

PS- I know I told you this before, but I love that car.
 
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Old 08-22-2009, 04:28 PM
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75 shot on a v6 is fine.. tune.. may or may not be safer just jet the thing correctly and there shouldn't be an issue.

"redlight" racing can be done.. bottle has to be on, arming switch on, then go..

Bottle pressure is key, don't spray it on too low/too high of pressure.

Fuel system, if you're on a wet kit and running a 75 shot then no, you don't need to upgrade your fuel system. For a stock-ish mustang, a wet kit is ideal.
 
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Old 08-23-2009, 06:23 PM
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Thanks for all the replies.
 
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