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Join Date: Nov 2004
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This is to show everyone that it doesnt take a ton of money to have a nice S/C on their mustang. Even if you dont have an 00-04 you can still get it done just as cheap. I have just quoted prices for what I did with my car. Search through http://www.superchargersonline.com and you can find prices for different makes and models. I do not work for them but they just have good service and they helped me build my kit.
This is a list of parts youll need to buy. Vortech Bracket Assembly $289 http://www.superchargersonline.com/p...er=V4FL111-031 includes: 3/8-16 x 1-3/4" HXHD G8 3/8" AN960 Flat Washers Belt, K061080-Gatesd Saleen Mach, 2000 GT Mtg. Brkt 8mm x 1.25 x 65 Soc 8mm x1.25 x 140 HXH 5/16 AN-Washer 6mm x 1.0 x 50mm HXHD Zinc 8mm x 1.25 x 25 HXHD Radiator Pipe-Stnlss #24 Gold Seal Hose C Adel Clamp, 3/4' ID 10-24 x 1/2 Soc HD Cap, Zinc Plt #10 Flat Washer 10mm x 1.50 x 140 Hex Head 10mm Washer, Zinc Plated 10mm x 1.5 x 65 Bolt, SHCS #8 x 3/4 Sheet Metal 2000 2V Idler Ply Assy. Idler Plt Assy, 2V GEN3 Idler Pulley, 6Rib 3" Flangd Dust Cover (Idler Pulley) 12mm x 1.75 x 20mm Pld Spacer, Idler Plate 2V G3 3/8-16 x G8 HXHD 1/4 SAE Washer, Pltd M8 x 1.25 x 140 Bolt Vortech Discharge Assembly $189 http://www.superchargersonline.com/p...er=V4FH112-020 includes: Discharge Tube 3" x 2" Sleeve 2-3/4" x 2" Sleeve #44 Hose Clamps #48 Hose Clamps #16 Hose Clamps Bypass Valve 1" x 3.5" Heater Hose 1" x 13.5" Heater Hose 5/32" x 52" Vacuum Line 5/32" TEE 1" Hose Union 1" x 90 Degree Rubber Elbow Vortech Air Intake Assembly $204 http://www.superchargersonline.com/p...er=V4FH112-010 includes: 90 Degree Intake Elbow MAF Meter Bracket Assembly #56 Hose Clamps 3-1/2" x 2" Sleeve 3-1/2" x 9" Flex Hose #52 Hose Clamps Air Filter 1/4-20 x 3/4" SHCS 1/4-20 Nylock Nuts 1/4"SAE Washers Inlet Elbow 3/4" NPT x 1" Hose Fitting 5/8" x 48" Hose 3/4" x 27" Hose 7/16" Rubber Grommet 5/8" Barb Vortech Oil Feed Assembly $22 http://www.superchargersonline.com/p..._feed_assembly includes: 1/4" x 26" Oil Feed Hose .525 Crimp Ferrules #4 Swivel x 1/4" Hose Barb Fitting 1/8" NPT -4 x 45 Degree male Elbow 1/4" NPT Street TEE 1/4" NPT x -4 90 Degree Fitting -4 Flare to 1/4 NPT Vortech Oil Drain Assembly $23 http://www.superchargersonline.com/p...drain_assembly inlcudes: 1/2" x 14" Oil Drain Hose #8 Stainless Hose Clamps 90 Degree 1/2" Alum. Tube Tube Nut Male Connector Vortech Bracket Assembly: $289 Vortech Discharge Assembly: $189 Vortech Air Intake Assembly: $204 Vortech Oil Feed Assembly: $22 Vortech Oil Drain Assembly: $23 Total: $727 before tax/shipping That is cost for EVERY single item you need to put a Vortech S, SQ, or T trim on your 2000-2004 Mustang GT. Only thing left to buy is the head unit. They are fairly easy to find if you search Ebay, SVTperformance.com, or Corral.net . A used S-trim sells between $400-800 depending on assumed mileage and condition. I bought mine for $700 with discharge pipe and intake. If you want a new head unit they cost $1849 for a brand new satin V-1 s-trim. A used head unit WILL be alot cheaper and perform just as well. Even if the unit needs a rebuild, the cost is about $350 from vortech or you can find some performance shops that can do it for around $100. Mine was in great condition when I picked it up from a guy on Ebay. Even bieng a 6 year old head unit it had no shaft play and seems to be in perfect condition. If you find a head unit for $600, add the cost of the hardware ($727) and this comes out to $1327 for a COMPLETE vortech s-trim setup every part new but the head unit and fuel injectors. Even if you paid say $800 it would just come out to $1527 before tax and shipping. Install takes a full days work to get it done right. Anyone with general knowledge of removing and installing bolts on the front of the timing cover, removing the belt, using a pipe tap, and swapping non-pressed pullies can perform this install. Heres the install manual: http://www.vortecheng.com/pdf/manuals/4FH4FL218im.pdf The result is between 350-370whp/ 360-390wtq on 8psi non intercooled. Most run between 13.20s@109 - 12.40s @112 in the 1/4 on street tires depending upon skill. Enjoy the boost! ![]() ![]()
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2003 DSG GT 5-speed Hellion 62mm and Flowmaster catback..... My bonestock 2v engine had been through 2 years of NX 100 shot, 3 years running 8-12lbs vortech s-trim, got into boost daily while racing on the weekends, had 157,000 miles on it, and was running like new |
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Tony @ SuperchargersOnline is a good dude.
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While this is a great option, you are still missing injectors, fuel pump, maf and a tune. Granted, I had less then $1,500 in my kit TOTAL when I was done, but I got a great deal on a lot of the parts up front.
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Join Date: Jul 2005
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Although you could buy a $500 nitrous kit and get the same power and still run mid-12's. Alot cheaper... |
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With tons more tourqe. I know you can get a vortec setup going on the cheap, thats whats so great about those kits is the vast majority of parts and peice you can find for them.
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Yes but $30 bucks to fill the bottle gets expensive if you use it alot. My car seemed to be faster on the low end with 100 shot. The blower is just a tad faster on the top end. It doesnt want to stop pulling. Im not downing n20 but im glad I went ahead and dropped the cash for it. I paid for it, put it on, worked out the bugs, and now its been awhile and I forgot about where the money went. Plus, I have a kit on my car that COULD sell for $2k on ebay while my n20 kit would sell for so cheap id be glad to get $500 for it.
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2003 DSG GT 5-speed Hellion 62mm and Flowmaster catback..... My bonestock 2v engine had been through 2 years of NX 100 shot, 3 years running 8-12lbs vortech s-trim, got into boost daily while racing on the weekends, had 157,000 miles on it, and was running like new |
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Join Date: Sep 2004
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Great post Jeradan.
As someone who has had both nitrous AND a blower on the same car, blowers are much better. However, if you are a serious drag racer, I think nitrous is very well suited.
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Very good information, that saves $1000 off the cost of a comparable tuner kit.
Good to know. As a side argument, if you assume a Supercharger kit costs $2200, and a Nitrous kit costs $1000 (lots of add ons) - $1200 / $30 (per fill) = 40 bottles before you match the cost - thats almost a whole year @ a bottle a week. |
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For the other parts (assuming 4.6L 2v):
90mm Lightning MAF: $135 42lbs/hr Ford Racing Fuel Injectors: $475 Vortech 255lph Fuel Pump: $194 Diabosport/SCT Tuner: $399 That's another $1200. That's brand new prices. You could find parts for cheaper. A quick look at some other sites and found injectors for $375.
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Lightning MAF's can be found at buyfordracing.com for 79 bucks brand new. Also, dont use a 255 fuel pump, use a Focus or Ford GT pump instead.
AND PAY VERY GOOD MONEY FOR YOUR TUNE! |
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I got my lightning MAF brand new for $75 and found the injectors used for $100.
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2003 DSG GT 5-speed Hellion 62mm and Flowmaster catback..... My bonestock 2v engine had been through 2 years of NX 100 shot, 3 years running 8-12lbs vortech s-trim, got into boost daily while racing on the weekends, had 157,000 miles on it, and was running like new |
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I know. I got the above prices from Modular Power House.
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2 Questions...
1) Will that mounting kit you show fit on a 96-98 or not? I'm having issues finding a kit for 96-98GT's on the site besides http://www.superchargersonline.com/p...er=V4FH100-002 2) Is this for mounting Reverse rotation or standard and straight or curved discharge? I'd assume straight discharge (no intercooler) but I'm not sure.
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2) Impeller faces the front and its straight discharge. This would be for a non-intercooled kit. Adding an A/A intercooler would cost $250-400 DIY or Paxton sells a kit for $1300
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2003 DSG GT 5-speed Hellion 62mm and Flowmaster catback..... My bonestock 2v engine had been through 2 years of NX 100 shot, 3 years running 8-12lbs vortech s-trim, got into boost daily while racing on the weekends, had 157,000 miles on it, and was running like new |
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Are all the headunits the same as far as matching them to a car? Basically you just need to get the bracket that fits your year and car and you can use any Vortech head unit. Is this correct?
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yes that is correct. All S, SQ, and T-trims with stright discharge will bolt up to the bracket.
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2003 DSG GT 5-speed Hellion 62mm and Flowmaster catback..... My bonestock 2v engine had been through 2 years of NX 100 shot, 3 years running 8-12lbs vortech s-trim, got into boost daily while racing on the weekends, had 157,000 miles on it, and was running like new |
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would a hypertech programmer work for the settup of the supercharger? Im not really sure if it makes a difference what programmer? Thanks...
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most hypertechs do nothing more than add timing and subtract fuel. so, no, that would be very bad for a supercharger. best thing to do is grab a SCT chip or progammer and get a base supercharger tune, till you can get it dyno tuned.
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I was looking for this post a while back.
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For the settup do you really need the vortech air intake assembly?? If im not confused could I get a powerpipe instead?
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Go with a powerpipe if you can. Its a little more $$$ tho and youll need to order a MAF bracket with filter.....
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2003 DSG GT 5-speed Hellion 62mm and Flowmaster catback..... My bonestock 2v engine had been through 2 years of NX 100 shot, 3 years running 8-12lbs vortech s-trim, got into boost daily while racing on the weekends, had 157,000 miles on it, and was running like new |
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any suggestions where to order the maf bracket w/ filter?
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superchargersonline.com has all the parts. If your using a lightning MAF then youll need to order the bracket specific to that one....heres the link for the bracket....http://www.superchargersonline.com/p...er=V4FR110-050
Just call them to find the right sized filter. Its not listed on the site....
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2003 DSG GT 5-speed Hellion 62mm and Flowmaster catback..... My bonestock 2v engine had been through 2 years of NX 100 shot, 3 years running 8-12lbs vortech s-trim, got into boost daily while racing on the weekends, had 157,000 miles on it, and was running like new |
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