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Vortech Sq-Trim: How much rwhp would I make?

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Planning on getting a Vortech Sq-Trim blower for my GT. How much power would I be putting to the wheels? The only mods I have right now is a Bassani Cat Back and 3.73 gears. Oh yeah, it's a 5 speed. Vortech advertises 364hp but I don't know if it's RWHP or at the crank.
 
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Originally Posted by Mikeaveli
Planning on getting a Vortech Sq-Trim blower for my GT. How much power would I be putting to the wheels? The only mods I have right now is a Bassani Cat Back and 3.73 gears. Oh yeah, it's a 5 speed. Vortech advertises 364hp but I don't know if it's RWHP or at the crank.
412/406 is the max i saw on a stock bottom end
 
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Originally Posted by PureStang
412/406 is the max i saw on a stock bottom end
There is no way I be making that much power right out the box. I'm going to be getting the non intercooled 6psi kit from Vortech and using the Vortech tune.
 
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you could expect at the very least 320 rear wheel
 
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Originally Posted by silvergt
you could expect at the very least 320 rear wheel
silver GT, where in RI are you?
 
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Originally Posted by silvergt
you could expect at the very least 320 rear wheel

That's a good starting point.
 
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Originally Posted by Mikeaveli
That's a good starting point.
youre going to want a 75mm TB and high flow plenum with that set up it will definitely give you some extra power. add a boost pipe and smaller pulley and youll be close to 400 rwhp for a few hundred bucks more when you want more power. starting off without those things will still make your car a lot of fun.

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silver GT, where in RI are you?
providence
 
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Originally Posted by silvergt
youre going to want a 75mm TB and high flow plenum with that set up it will definitely give you some extra power. add a boost pipe and smaller pulley and youll be close to 400 rwhp for a few hundred bucks more when you want more power. starting off without those things will still make your car a lot of fun.



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Not unless he gets the inter-cooler.
 
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Originally Posted by silvergt
youre going to want a 75mm TB and high flow plenum with that set up it will definitely give you some extra power. add a boost pipe and smaller pulley and youll be close to 400 rwhp for a few hundred bucks more when you want more power. starting off without those things will still make your car a lot of fun.



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Cool. I got a FRPP 70mm TB just chillin' in my garage right now. I'll probably put that on at the same time. I know for a fact I'll need a new tune other than the Vortech's if I put another pulley on. But will I need a new tune with a boost pipe?

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Not unless he gets the inter-cooler.
Don't plan on going that crazy. Just need enough to snap my passengers neck when I floor it.
 
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i wouldnt waste my money on the 6psi kit. i would boost 8psi at the least non-intercooled. 8psi and 4.10's will certianly snap your passengers neck. lol
 
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Originally Posted by PureStang
i wouldnt waste my money on the 6psi kit. i would boost 8psi at the least non-intercooled. 8psi and 4.10's will certianly snap your passengers neck. lol
I might get a good deal on the 6psi kit. About a even $3000 for a brand new one. With the money I'll save I might slap on a 8psi pulley and a different tune. But we'll see. Does Vortech sell a 8psi non intercooled kit?
 
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I'm pretty sure Vortech's base blower is 8PSI, along with Paxton and Procharger.

I know Kenne Bell offers a 6psi, but idk about Vortech.

Anyway, with the catback that might add another 10RWHP w/ the blower for a total of around 345-350RWHP w/ a tune IMO. That's at 8PSI.
 
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91 octane will keep his numbers a little bit lower than the 93 octane people out here that have blowers. i think my car is around the neighborhood of 370-380 on my 91 tune.

just go for the 8 psi kit and dont beat on the car with the vortech tune, their tunes are crap and will make your car run rich as hell
 
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A blown motor. You cant go into boost with anything less then a custom dyno tune. Just recently a guy here blew his motor running on a KB tune. MAIL ORDER TUNES ARE NO GOOD!

The only thing you can do with a mail order tune is drive it to the tuner for a real tune. Stay outta boost till then.
 
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I'm definitely going to a dyno afterwards just to see if everythings fine. If the Vortech tune is in the car's cpu when I take it to a tuner can they overwrite the tune or will it have to be sent back to Vortech to get flashed back to stock?
 
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Originally Posted by WaterDR
Not unless he gets the inter-cooler.
my s trim with automatic transmission made 389rwhp 359rwtq with pipe and pulley non intercooled... hes got a standard which will pick up alot more hp than a 4r70w
 
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Originally Posted by silvergt
my s trim with automatic transmission made 389rwhp 359rwtq with pipe and pulley non intercooled... hes got a standard which will pick up alot more hp than a 4r70w
What other mods do you have?
 
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Originally Posted by 03gtmustang
A blown motor. You cant go into boost with anything less then a custom dyno tune. Just recently a guy here blew his motor running on a KB tune. MAIL ORDER TUNES ARE NO GOOD!

The only thing you can do with a mail order tune is drive it to the tuner for a real tune. Stay outta boost till then.
my 91 mailorder tune works great 11.0-11.5 air fuel.

a buddy of mine had a KB tune blow up his motor they gave his money back and he used that for a forged block build.

another friend had a base procharger tune in his car that made his car run rich and act erratic at times. he did that for about 3 months till he had enough cash for a real tune. he picked up 50 hp after a custom tune.

dude that is buying this kit you will have to buy a chip or a hand held tuner
 
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Originally Posted by stanger00
my 91 mailorder tune works great 11.0-11.5 air fuel.

a buddy of mine had a KB tune blow up his motor they gave his money back and he used that for a forged block build.

another friend had a base procharger tune in his car that made his car run rich and act erratic at times. he did that for about 3 months till he had enough cash for a real tune. he picked up 50 hp after a custom tune.

dude that is buying this kit you will have to buy a chip or a hand held tuner
I have a Diablosport handheld tuner. Would they be able to overwrite the Vortech tune with that?
 
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Originally Posted by Mikeaveli
I have a Diablosport handheld tuner. Would they be able to overwrite the Vortech tune with that?
Yea, they would have to tune using your diablo. They would just clear the Vortech tune.
 
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A custon dyno tune is a must with a blower. The only exception would be for a well established kit such at from Saleen or something like that, but even then....get a dyno tune.
 
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My car has the same setup. I have the 8psi non-intercooled s-trim. That is the base vortech kit. They dont put 6psi to our cars. Mine has stock TB/plenum, stock vortech intake, stock headers, walbro 255, and 39# injectors. It made 340whp and 354wtq on a pretty conservative tune. The kit badly needs an intercooler. It runs good, but not enough low end grunt for me. Maybe the intercooler and 10# pulley will help.
 
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Originally Posted by jeredan2003
My car has the same setup. I have the 8psi non-intercooled s-trim. That is the base vortech kit. They dont put 6psi to our cars. Mine has stock TB/plenum, stock vortech intake, stock headers, walbro 255, and 39# injectors. It made 340whp and 354wtq on a pretty conservative tune. The kit badly needs an intercooler. It runs good, but not enough low end grunt for me. Maybe the intercooler and 10# pulley will help.

Cool. Do you have lower gears?
 
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Originally Posted by jeredan2003
The kit badly needs an intercooler. It runs good, but not enough low end grunt for me. Maybe the intercooler and 10# pulley will help.
wont pick up any low end. i get max torque between 4500-4800 rpms. the car is at 300lbs at 3100rpms and pulls all the way to 390 at 4800rpms and falls off a little after that. once you get the intercooler try a 3.2 pulley first i have a 3.1 pulley and that makes 12#'s on my car. im on a very very conservative tune.
 
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Originally Posted by Mikeaveli
Cool. Do you have lower gears?
No I am on the stock gears. It needs a nice 4:10 or 3:73 to wake it up on the low end. I think that may be all it needs for me.
 
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I have an 05 GT and won a Vortech S/C in a raffle @ the Unique Performance Car Show in Oct. My base line was 275 rwhp....Mike Wilson @ Lone Star Performance tuned it up to 437rwhp....I asked him to drop it a little
and he got it to 417rwhp....That's an increase of 142rwhp.
 
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It looks like I'll be picking up a Vortech Mongoose kit instead.
 
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Originally Posted by Mikeaveli
It looks like I'll be picking up a Vortech Mongoose kit instead.
u should see at least 350 with his tune on it. he treats california 91 octane like georgia 89 octane. thats what he told me when i was at the shop getting my car re tuned on the dyno.
 
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Originally Posted by stanger00
u should see at least 350 with his tune on it. he treats california 91 octane like georgia 89 octane. thats what he told me when i was at the shop getting my car re tuned on the dyno.
That should be rather safe if it's really a tune for 89. I'm going this route because it doesn't look like my hook up will come thru anytime soon.
 

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