i noticed the trash talking political ads have already started. nothing like Presidential candidates throwing each under the bus, and talking trash on the other's campaign...so glad to know to know that all the politicians that represent our f***in country are still in Kindergarten!!!

i wonder what would happen if everyone in the US decided not to vote for a new President on Election Day. They all voted for everyone else, Congress, Senate, etc...but just not the President.

what's the contingency plan for something like that? and what kind of chaos might that bring?

 

Don't know, but that will never happen.

 

Elections should be where you have several qualified canidates to choose from, each with thier own merrits and agendas and you choose the one who best represents you.

However

nowadays it just feels like were trying to pick the lesser of 2 evils.

Hmm.... which one is likely to **** up the least.....

 

That's the exact reason I didn't vote in the last election. I hated both candidates. All I know this time around is, I'm voting democrat. Unless it's hillary, then I'm voting republican.

 

as much as the Republicans have dropped the ball the past two terms, i take comfort in the fact that none of the other Republicans are as stupid and retarded as Bush.

The one good thing I've seen Bush do...was to PREVENT HOMO'S FROM GETTING MARRIED. but that's pretty sad that that, is the highlight of his presidency...even Clinton achieved more than Bush.

So "if" I were to register to Vote...i'd vote for Guiliani. I think he would represent the nation to it's best out of all the candidates.

the Democrats are just a bunch of crazies, out to destroy all the morals, values, and ethics this country was built on.

Hillary is the Anti-Christ IMO...that woman just might somehow be related to Adolph Hitler.

 

that was about the most stupid and pointless thing to spend even the smallest about of energy on.

seriously, who gives a ****? a *** and a *** are a couple, they want the same rights that a married man and woman get. Why not give it to them?

whats with everyone wanting laws to tell other people how to live thier lives? thats one of the biggest problems in america.

So Dan and Bob are together. Dan and Bob want to be married so dan and bob can be on the same insurance plan, and so if dan kicks the bucket, bob gets dan's house and all that other stuff that happens when yer married.

how in the hell could that possibly make enough of a difference to you to make you want it to be outlawed, and furthermore what scrap of that is even remotely your business to decide if they should or not?

seriously..

i guess i understand those religious nuts, but still, who ******* cares really?

 

it sacrifices the morals, values, and ethics in which America was built on, that and it's wrong, because as a God fearing Christian, the Bible says it's wrong, and I believe that.

that's why. for the last 230 years, it's been wrong...why should it change now? one good reason why?

Since man and woman started walking the Earth it's been man and woman in marriage.

not man and man, not woman and woman.

if we allow man and man, or woman and woman to get married, where does it stop?

next thing you know people will want the right to marry animals. Jim and his beautifule bride Annie the Chimp. OMG!!!!!!!

you don't need to be married to get someone's possessions when they die...you can leave it to them in a will. If I wanted...right now I could take an insurance policy out on you Jack...if i had your consent, and if you died, I would get the payout on that policy, or whoever I left as the benefactor.

I could take one out on my dad, or my brother, or my best friend. anyone can take a life insurance policy out on anyone so long as you consent, and if i had life insurance policy, whoever I want as the beneficiary is gonna get my stuff.

so all that wanting the same rights crap...is bs.

health insurance...don't know what to tell ya there...dont be a *** and you dont have to worry about it

 

Well, dont get me wrong, i dont see how it makes any sence. Dude on dude?... no... gross.... GIRL ON GIRL FTW! now that is just HOT!

As far as the religious aspect.... in my view the fastest way to world peace is to abolish all forms of religion. Religion just gets in the way of progress... then again, i can say that cause i dont believe in any religion, i dont think any of them are even remotely close to connecting the hammer to the nail.

Out oc curiosity, you being a god fearing christian.... yer against gay marrige because of religious views... well, in the same respect shouldnt you hate all Jews because they killed christ and do not accept him as thier lord and savior?... Should they be outlawed as well?

This entire ANTI GAY MARRIGE just seems like a complete waste of time and energy.

There are a lot of things that are right for some people and wrong for others. I just think it is kind of shitty to impose laws against somebody else from doing something they want simple cause some dusty old manuscripst from various authors that were assembled (with some left out) then translated 50 freakin times says so. I say let people do what they want. Religious imposition is one of the main reasons people use an an escuse to attack/kill/oppress another group of people.
Seems like wasted energy that could be spent towards progress...

Yeah..... im sure that is NOT where it would end up... but did you hear about that guy in (i think it was) Indonesia that got caught having sex with a goat? and thier court systems forced him to marry his goat? lol. he had to work up a dowery and everything. lol....


I dont think they consider that the same. People like to havre a label so people know exactly where they stand in other peoples lives. that is why women want to be married and are not content on being a girlfriend. being "Married" validates them. I guess the queer folk just want the same.

My buddy's tim's wife died of cancer about a month or two back. horribly process that cancer, but they were boyfriend/girlfriend for years and years, she always pestered him to be married, but his ex wife cheated on him so he was totally against marrige. A week before she died he married her, they had a chaplain perform the ceremony on sand that he had brought in from seattle since she wanted to be married on the beach. They family was there, they exchanged vows. However, they never signed the papers.

So at her funeral i thought it was interesting because since they were not Married in the eyes of the law, and how they were never really "engaged" they had refferred to him as the "boyfriend" which really somehow seemed to diminish his role in her life even though in her eyes the sun rose and set upon him.

Maybe that is what they really want, some type of social validation on thier standing of importance with the person they are with.

Plus there are tax breaks, stuff like that which married couples get.


lol.... ya know what is messed up? I get AETNA insurance at work. I got the best insurance package which costs me pre-tax about 190 a pay-period. This year at Benefit enrollment they have a new status for "Domestic Partner" which i assume is for gay folk. Funny thing is the same insurance package costs them 120 a pay period.

anyways... Why is gay marrige so horrible? people do things that are against the bible all the time. Why bother focusing on this one? What is so threatening about gay marrige?

And exactly what morals and ethics in america are going to go down the toilet if gays are allowed to marry eachother? It is nothing more than a title of companionship with some tax breaks. By not allowing gays to marry isnt gonna stop the homers from doing thier thing. They will do it regardless.

All this fuss over a title and a few tax breaks.

to say that it is going to sacrifice morals is absolutly absurd

 

girl on girl is hot...but still it's wrong.

this is where you are wrong...the Romans ordered and carried out the death of Christ, while the Jews stood by and did nothing, but had they tried to do something they would have been slaughtered by the Roman Army.

 

How can girl on girl be wrong, when it feels so right? lmao

the jews still dont believe Jesus was Christ, they dont believe he was the son of god. plain and simple.

which is worse? man on man? or all these people calling Jesus a fraud?

lol...

i STILL dont understand the whole arguement about it sacrificing morals and ethics....

whose morals and ethics?

the buttsecks is gonna happen regardless.

Homers have been around forever anyways. hell. look at the roman empire. its amazing they could actually conquer a world with all that pole cleaning going on.

America is one of the more intolerant countries when it comes to this stuff. There are lots of other developed countries that really dont worry about it and do just fine.

like i said.. wasted energy. would be a lot better to put that energy towards something positive instead of persecuting homo's

As for the whole homo thing in general, dont get me wrong, im not entirely ok with it. I might get flogged for this but i honestly think homosexuality is a psychological disorder. I do agree, guy on guy aint right, (the jury is still out about the girl on girl thing but i like it). But it doesent reall hurt anyone so who cares.

I have a buddy who is a homer. He is allright though cause he doesent like shopping, has no interest in broadway, and would rather kick back and drink a 6 pack and talk about the last UFC fights than discuss window treatments.

Great guy. Awesome guy. Very dependable friend. And all in all he is a far better person than most. The only thing about him that i find kinda gross is his whole gay-ness. He aint ashamed of it, but while he is gay, he does not define himself by his homersecksuality, he defines himself by his achievements and the same standards straight people define themselves.

The idea that he is unethical and immoral and has anything to do with the decline of values and integrity is absolutly laughable. I can compare him to 50 random people on the street and i can garauntee he is a person of higher standard and integrity than 48 of those people.

But hey, if you dont like it thats yer perrogative, but i gotta say it is a waste of energy, and all that energy that goes into preventing homo's from being married is a shame cause it wouldnt be too difficult to find a better outlet for that effort.

 

I don't like most of what you say or represent, so Im not going to get into a debate with you about any of your views about THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. Whatever you think, you should still show respect to the man that is in office. You seem to believe that you have extremely high moral value, well by saying the things that you have about our president you have just kicked yourself straight in the teeth.

Anyway, you are completely wrong about life insurance. You CAN NOT get insurance on anyone you want, there is this little clause in life insurance policy which states that you must prove that you have "Insurable interest" which means that if the person you are buying the policy for dies that you will stand to lose something of value, ie: business partner that pays half of the bills or a spouse that takes care of the kids and helps to pay bills, etc etc etc.. The only life insurance policy that does not need insurable interest would be a minor, ie: your child.

 

Gotta step in real quick here...

As an american i think it is your duty to respect the position and office of the president

but i dont think you really need to respect the man.

just like in the military. It doesent matter how big of an idiot Captain Asshat is, after all, he IS a captain, and i had to listen to him and treat his rank with respect. But it was the rank i respected, not asshat himself

 

sorry i disagree...i will not respect a man who has dragged a country into a war by lying and deceiving, and misleading.

through his unlawful orders, he has cost American soldiers their lives, for a cause that is not just.

and to make matters worse the lousy SOB is trying to drag us into another confrontation with IRAN and North Korea.

it's immoral and unethical to support such a man...therefore the rat bastard doesn't get my respect or my support.

In fact, I hope the SOB chokes to death on his steak, so this BS will come to a stop.

He's a war criminal and if the United Nations had any *****, they would take him into custody, and try him as such before an international war tribunal.

 

lol, you have way too much time on your hands.. Get a girl, or a guy, or a monkey.. whichever you prefer...

All I can say is if Hillary or Obama Bin Laden somehow make it into Office that Im going to run. Fast.. And very VERY far away.

 

just remember, you can only marry 1 out of the 3, so choose wisely.

lol

 

wow!!! we agree on something!

yeah i think i would be moving to New Zealand

yeah and options 2 and 3 are a no go.

im supposed to have a date tomorrow with a chick for Pulaski...we'll see how that goes...lol

 

Ok im gonna try to give my part with out writing a book.


Your Vote DOES NOT COUNT. I AM NEVER EVER GONNA VOTE unless its someone i REALLY like and for reasons idk why. just to make me feel happy.

The animal thing is different. The law they are making is to make it where it is legal to marry something as long as its legal. girl on girl. man on man. man on girlman, whatever you would like. and with that comes SEPERATION OF CHURCH AND STATE. tell em it says in the bible they cant. they can just sue ur butt.

And you say our country was built on Christianity?? if so, do some history bud.

First religion here was Morman (Native Americans). Then people came here as catholics, christians, and then came people from russia, poland, india, great britain and some other countries. and i doubt they were all christian.

Just because christians/catholics were the first people on the map does not mean they have dibs on it.


found a Saleen in a parking lot the other day. that wasnt on a map ive ever seen. doesnt mean its mine and/or that i can do with it what i would like.






What if gays got here first?? And we were straight and what not. how would you feel if they would not let you get married.

 

the indians were mormon?

EDIT: Clarification = Feather not Dot.

 

you're right our votes do not count. secondly...stop putting so many ******* spaces between your messages...jeez.

third, you're a moron if you think Native Americans were Mormon. You're a bigger morn cause you apparently flunked History.

Catholic/Protestant/Pentecostal/Baptist are all demoniations of Christianity.

When the Pilgrims came here from England before America was a country, those people were Protestant and Catholic....then the people who fought for our Independence, put things in the Constitution that honor God, and Christian beliefs. hence, the beliefs and morals this country was forged from.

you're still an idiot

 

its means it could of been yours if you had the ***** to unlock the car and hot wire it.

 

pretty much what the white man did to the Indians. we had the ***** to hot wire it from them...then we established laws so it couldn't be hijacked from us...well at least not unless some country kicks our ***.

 

good question and I'm not sure what would happen.....maybe the electoral college would determine the winner.....I think that would be the case if not one person voted in the popular vote. I could be wrong, who knows

 

do your history. first native americans were form india and were morman.

 

uh....hate to burst yer bubble but, you're wrong sir.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mormon

 

I did not read all the posts, but in short, my views are:

1 - Frigg'n VOTE. Anyone who does not vote to prove their point is ignorant. Have any idea how many people have died so you can go to the polls? Don't be an *** by not voting. If you don't vote you give up your right to bitch about our governement. In fact, if you obstained on purpose, you have not right to have an opinion, that is what I think. How 'bout them apples?

2 - I am tired of Bush's and Clintons. Time for NEITHER of them to be in office.

3 - Congress has lower approval ratings then the President.

4 - There has not been a terrorist attack on our soil since 2001.

5 - Did I say vote?

 

i concur.

 

BTW, I did nto mean to rant soo much on the voting issue...fact is, we have fought for the right to make our own decisions.....to not vote, to vote, and to vote for who we want.

But, when you don't vote, don't blame people who did elect someone.

 

... I'll +1 on the voting deal, if you didn't vote, you don't get an opinion.

However, the "we havent hard a terrorist attack since 01" well, that doesn't really mean much.. they sorta come in 10 year bursts.. trade towers were hit once before, ect. It'll happen again, regardless on whos in office.

Bush was/is pretty lousy, turned a surplus into the biggest deficit we've ever seen for a war in a country thats pointless, I wouldn't mind if a majority of our forces were in Afghanistan or Iran, hell, I'd be there if we were.

Bill Clinton got a ******* and lied, I don't care, I don't care about his personal life, all I know is when I was growing up while he was in office, he did a decent job, and finished up the recovery of our economy after Regans Military buildup.

Hillary, I probably won't vote for, I believe she is better then the republican candidates, but shes flip-flopped on this war.

Obama, I won't vote for.

I'll probably vote for someone who isn't exactly republican and isn't exactly a dem. Unless I see Hillary is in a tight race, and then I'll probably vote for her to keep someone worse out of office.

Congress and Bush's approval rating are both garbage. And whoever said "You've still got to respect the man" show me where it says anything on that.

I don't have to respect anyone that is costing american lives, and throwing us into a debt thats so bad MY grand kids are going to pay it aswell.

 

well Morman religion thinks that first native americans came from india and were mormon.

and your vote really doesnt count. and vote if you want. its just a waste of time. yeah people died for us to vote and it wanted our votes to count. which it doesnt. and you do not have to vote to have the right to bitch about it. the goverment elected that person not the people. and if you dispise our goverment so much. then leave.

 

carnagecab......... you are the biggest moron i've seen to date. you should be proud, the world is chocked full of complete dipshits! way to go on the totally on-spot and accurate account of native americans all having been closet mormons! (that's a little sarcasm for ya. i know you're stupid so i'm just trying to help.) go talk to any mormon (not freakin' morman you idiot!) or native american and i think they'll getcha all lined out. stupid *** freak.