SlicK

Post your thoughts on Bush and his administration.

I would have to say nothing less than his is a flaming moron. Unless you haven't noticed, about 70% of America agrees with me. His approval rating is into the 30%'s and is getting lower. I don't have time to point out all of his down-falls, and I'm sure I don't know all of them, but here is a short outline of a few of them.

Here's the big one, oil. Ofcourse he is best friends with one of the largest over-seas oil companies, which just happens to be over in Iraq and Kuwait right now. As many of you saw from the movie Jarhead, in Operation Desert Shield we had our soldiers protecting his dad's buddy's oil rigs. Now he is doing the same with his own in the current conflict in the Middle-east. Also, when Clinton was in the office, he put forth a bill that alternate fuel source vehicles had to be so far into production in the next 10 years that they could be sold for the average working-class citizen. It also said it would help fund much of the research. Within the first 3-months of Bush being in office, the bill was terminated. Why would he want vehicles running off of ethonal or hydrogen when Bush's buddies own oil companies? Luckly many of the car companies are still working on these alternative fuel sources, but they aren't nearly as far along as they could be if they had the government helping them out. Not only would this help the enviornment and economy, but it would be a hell of a lot cheaper than paying 60 bucks every time you fill up your car.

That's my schpeel on the whole oil deal. You can elaborate, flame, or refute.

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Badfish

I think you're a flaming moron, because you might notice..most of the people on this forum are part of that 30%

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SlicK

I'm not saying anything against people who support Bush, I just want to know some of the good things he does for the country, and how that out-weighs all the other negative things he's doing now.

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Badfish

I don't see how any red blooded american can sit there and call our commander in cheif an idiot.

You act like Bush is the only president in the history of time that has messed up...newsflash: he's not...

There's nothing that pisses me off more than all you liberals joining the "I hate bush" bandwagon..when you really have NO idea what you're talking about

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SlicK

I have no idea what I'm talking about? He hasn't done any of those things I stated in my first post? I never said he was the only president to mess up either, but that's no reason to say that it's ok for him to do this stuff because presidents in the past have. Jackson, Buchanan, and some of the other presidents that are known for bad decisions were critisized for their mistakes too. The only reason I point Bush out is because he is still alive... and because he can fix some of these issues. The problem is that he chooses not to, or he is too incompetent to do so.

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jjtgiants

I'm not part of the 30%, but badfish is right..... most people of this site are rednecks that live in the mid-west or non urban parts of the east coast....so I just try not to comment on threads like this cause telling the 30% that Bush is an idiot is like trying to convince a nun to give you a BJ....it's not happening! ha ha ha

SlicK

Where are you guys getting that I'm insulting people that like Bush? I never once insulted anyone other than Bush himself; everyone is entitled to their own opinions and I respect that. The other 30% are the people in America, not this site, that approve of his presidency. I'm trying to get a conversation about him going but no one is actually posting about the good things that he has done in office. I just want someone that is for him to explain on why they think he is a good president, or someone that doesn't like him to add on to what I said. I just touched the surface with the oil issue.

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Milos

I think Bush was a good man, and he still is a good man... thats my two cents.

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95bstallion

I personally think the man is a puppet.

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you want to know some of the good things he has done for our country, how about going to war. paying thos sons of bi*ches back for what they did on 9/11. im proud to say my dad has dropped many of those bombs (B-1 bunker buster FTW).

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95bstallion

He might of went to war but hes not paying the sons of bitches who did it back. what did sudam do to us? All he did was start a civil war in irag.

I will not comment anymore just had to throw a few things on my mind in there.

Badfish

you're defending sadam? lol. who cares, he's a peice of **** and deserves whats comming to him and more.

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exactly. if i would have been the soldier who found him in his hole, i would have just tossed a grenade in there and just pretend that i didnt know someone was in there. oops

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SlicK

I partially agree with you. It seems that you are kind of defending what Sadaam did, and I don't agree with that. I do agree that we haven't paid back the sons of bitches that helped with 9/11. We've killed innocent people and have had our loyal soldiers killed, but we are yet to have found Osama. Sadaam had nothing to do with 9/11, but he still was a nice find.

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SlicK

I wouldn't have even been that nice. I would like to be the judge for his case and I'd have a 2 square ft. cage built in the middle of Death Valley and have him stuck in there with no food or water so he could rot.

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95bstallion

I dont defend what he did, but he had those people scared to death(literally). If they stepped out of line he didnt give a **** he would kill both party's now there is just a all out civil war there. So in my opinion you have to weigh the good with the bad and see if it was worth it or not. Im not siding with one side either way.

WaterDR

You know why I like Bush? Because at least he is consistent....even if he is wrong - lol

BTW, 30% approval rating? Means nothing since most Americans are only concerned about themselves and their own pocket books.

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SlicK

I wouldn't necessarily call being consistently wrong a good quality...

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i dont now anythign about politics but i ahve watched bushes announcments and speeches never understand fully wut they were about

but i dont like the way he tlks he tlks very unsure of himself and has a studdering problem which idk just bothers me i think the president should no exactly wut to say all the time and it seems to me that he has to think and lie about sum things that he says

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Wow, some of you people are missing the point of this here discussion.

Lets back up and review here...


I have my right to free speech, and yes I do think that our president is doing more wrong than right. Would I say he is a flaming idiot, probably not, but I dont see the majority of his policies even producing what they were supposed to do.

Every president has messed up over time, but Bush is unique as when he is in a corner he and his administration will deny that they ever said something, even though the administration really did say what someone is claiming they said. This has happened numerous times, and frankly im not too happy with a government that constantly lies to its people, even though they are caught red handed.

I havn't liked Bush since day one. Im not a liberal hippie though, and I dont jump on any bandwagon. Based on the evidence that was presented on Iraq and its ties to Al Qaeda, I did not see that the war in Iraq was something that is justified.

Let me clarify something here: Was Saddam bad, yes. Very. He was a horrible human being, as were his sons. Was he a DIRECT threat to US national security, no, not at that present time. Remember, there have been NO proven ties that Iraq funded Al Qaeda or supported OBL.

Im also not too pleased that the whole subject of the war has changed, yet nobody gives a flying ****. We ****ed up when we invaded and have put ourselves into a large quagmire on how to get out. In short, we have set the grounds for a civil war in Iraq. The powder-keg is already about to burst.

How is sacrificing 3000+ American soldiers for a cause that the majority of the country doesn't even back