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94StangGTVert 05-18-2006 10:49 AM


Originally Posted by madmatt
D, I know you work just as hard if not harder than any other person. All Im saying is, I did NOT imply that all minorities are lazy. I even went as far as to acknowlege that I know tons of WHITE people that are slack pieces of scum that havent worked a day in their lives. If you have a different opinion of the person I am because I have an opinion on a flawed (strictly MY opinion) system, Im sorry. And yes, I have experienced racial behaviors too my friend, like I said, racism isnt just a white thing.

Agreed


I deal with it everyday, hicks around here hate the fact that my fiance is biracial. Everyday I get "looks" and "whispers"

Oh well,


I respect You Dsdaddy. You are doing way more then me for our country. :beerchug:

madmatt 05-18-2006 10:53 AM


Originally Posted by dsdaddy
Understood, I forgot to add that earlier:beerchug:

Like I said, I'm going to stay out of this one.

Ok, glad you didnt take it the wrong way. :beerchug: LOL I should just learn to keep my mouth shut sometimes...

dsdaddy 05-18-2006 11:00 AM


Originally Posted by madmatt
Ok, glad you didnt take it the wrong way. :beerchug: LOL I should just learn to keep my mouth shut sometimes...

If you do that, myself and every other military member in this country might as well just quit. Everyone has an opinion...and should have the right to voice it. Some people just tend to think that their opinion is the only one that counts...

Dammit, I was supposed to stay out of this!!!:devil2:

94StangGTVert 05-18-2006 11:01 AM

Im done, let's hold our tongues together

That sounds gross...

Really gross...

madmatt 05-18-2006 11:23 AM


Originally Posted by dsdaddy
If you do that, myself and every other military member in this country might as well just quit. Everyone has an opinion...and should have the right to voice it. Some people just tend to think that their opinion is the only one that counts...

Dammit, I was supposed to stay out of this!!!:devil2:

LOL GTFO! hahahaha

GREG@94GT 05-18-2006 11:24 AM

well...

I wrote this and all sources for all info is cited... unfortunately it is all true...

Now how that could offend anyone blows my mind...

dsdaddy, I have no idea how this would offend you. AA is a government **** up. It does not nessesarily mean that you are lazy or anyone else is lazy... I hope you read it in its entirety before taking offense (if you did)

Now anyone that has an arguement about why AA is GOOD... then post it...

However I assure you that I already covered why that arguement is wrong...

The fact is...

AA goes against EVERYTHING that our great country is founded on. And it breaks our constitutional rights.

AA is discrimination. AA is racism. AA is wrong.

And this crap about the rebel flag, get a ****in life:rolleyes:

thats like lance saying, "I'm thinking about getting chrome wheels" and then you replying, "carbon fiber hood is awesome dude!"

GREG@94GT 05-18-2006 11:26 AM

Oh yeh... and Lynyrd Skynyrd is one of the best bands ever...

madmatt 05-18-2006 11:36 AM


Originally Posted by GREG@94GT
Oh yeh... and Lynyrd Skynyrd is one of the best bands ever...

Amen.:punk:

shad0ws 05-18-2006 11:40 AM


Originally Posted by madmatt
Amen.:punk:

Alright, I'm just going to be the guy to disagree to get things all fired up.

I think Slipknot is the best band of all time.



:devil2: FLAME WAR!!!:devil2:

GREG@94GT 05-18-2006 11:41 AM


Originally Posted by shad0ws
Alright, I'm just going to be the guy to disagree to get things all fired up.

I think Slipknot is the best band of all time.



:devil2: FLAME WAR!!!:devil2:

:loser:... you dont even own a mustang

04DarkShadowGT 05-18-2006 11:43 AM


Originally Posted by GREG@94GT
Oh yeh... and Lynyrd Skynyrd is one of the best bands ever...

Dont you mean was? :poke: j/k

macs03GT 05-18-2006 11:43 AM


Originally Posted by dsdaddy
However, as a PROUD black man, well, that's a whole different story...I DO have my own opinions on this subject, but my opinions are formed mainly because I EXPERIENCE racial behaviors every day instead of just READING about them.

I being a proud black man myself, also have strong feelings on this matter. It's a whole differnet issue to me having EXPERIENCED matters first hand. While i believe being "born black in a white world" holds true, it's not a reason for anybody to feel held down. People who believe AA shouldn't be in place should really look at the big picture here and put themselves in the other person's shoes. Having the upper hand all the time, can make you think differently than a person on the low end....

I got a african american based scholorship and had to work DAMN hard to get it. I don't see how you can say that i got it because i was black. ARE YOU KIDDING ME!?!? I had to go through the same routine as anyone trying to get a scholorship (essays, interviews ect). There are no hand outs in this world. Every job i've held...I'VE WORKED DAMN HARD TO GET IT!!. AA isn't racist toward anyone. It's been here for years and i don't see any shortages of white people getting jobs. If that were the case, we'd be in an uproar. I've always said, "political facts are just someone else's strong opinions that you agree with", and this thread just proves that to me.

GREG@94GT 05-18-2006 11:45 AM


Originally Posted by 04DarkShadowGT
Dont you mean was? :poke: j/k

they still play pal... :rolleyes:

shad0ws 05-18-2006 11:48 AM


Originally Posted by GREG@94GT
:loser:... you dont even own a mustang

Damn, I just got shot the **** down!!!

dsdaddy 05-18-2006 11:48 AM


Originally Posted by GREG@94GT

dsdaddy, I have no idea how this would offend you.

I couldn't have said it better myself.

Red99GT 05-18-2006 11:48 AM

Nice article Greg... reverse racism is terrible
however, i dont completely agree because white people aren't really struggling in the business world to find jobs...

GREG@94GT 05-18-2006 11:51 AM


Originally Posted by macs03GT
I being a proud black man myself, also have strong feelings on this matter. It's a whole differnet issue to me having EXPERIENCED matters first hand. While i believe being "born black in a white world" holds true, it's not a reason for anybody to feel held down. People who believe AA shouldn't be in place should really look at the big picture here and put themselves in the other person's shoes. Having the upper hand all the time, can make you think differently than a person on the low end....

I got a african american based scholorship and had to work DAMN hard to get it. I don't see how you can say that i got it because i was black. ARE YOU KIDDING ME!?!? I had to go through the same routine as anyone trying to get a scholorship (essays, interviews ect). There are no hand outs in this world. Every job i've held...I'VE WORKED DAMN HARD TO GET IT!!. AA isn't racist toward anyone. It's been here for years and i don't see any shortages of white people getting jobs. If that were the case, we'd be in an uproar. I've always said, "political facts are just someone else's strong opinions that you agree with", and this thread just proves that to me.

OK... I looked at the "whole big picture." AA is discimination and
breaks our constitutional rights.

Congrats on the scholarship... That was one of the many scholarships I couldn't apply for... Which is why I didn't get a nice scholarship... :wallbash: if only I was black:(

GREG@94GT 05-18-2006 11:51 AM


Originally Posted by dsdaddy
I couldn't have said it better myself.

:beerchug:

dsdaddy 05-18-2006 11:56 AM


Originally Posted by GREG@94GT
:beerchug:

I'll give you a minute to re-read that and THINK about it...:devil2:

GREG@94GT 05-18-2006 12:00 PM


Originally Posted by dsdaddy
I'll give you a minute to re-read that and THINK about it...:devil2:

ok funny guy:rolleyes:

but this really should offend anyone

macs03GT 05-18-2006 12:03 PM


Originally Posted by GREG@94GT
OK... I looked at the "whole big picture." AA is discimination and
breaks our constitutional rights.

Congrats on the scholarship... That was one of the MANY scholarships I couldn't apply for... Which is why I didn't get a nice scholarship... :wallbash: if only I was black:(

So the reason you didn't get one of those MANY scholarships is becuase you weren't black?!?!? funny becuase i got a "non-black" scholarship also and didn't have a problem. What was i thinking.....i didn't get these scholarships becuase i did well...it was AA. How simple minded of me. Thank you AA!!!! You put me through school. I would have never overcame if it wasn't for AA. THANK GOD FOR AA!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

All i'm saying is i've had to work just as hard as the next guy.....if it was just becuase of AA that i got my job....I didn't work any less for it. Which is what some people are implying.

madmatt 05-18-2006 12:06 PM


Originally Posted by macs03GT
So the reason you didn't get one of those MANY scholarships is becuase you weren't black?!?!? funny becuase i got a "non-black" scholarship also and didn't have a problem. What was i thinking.....i didn't get these scholarships becuase i did well...it was AA. How simple minded of me. Thank you AA!!!! You put me through school. I would have never overcame if it wasn't for AA. THANK GOD FOR AA!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

All i'm saying is i've had to work just as hard as the next guy.....if it was just becuase of AA that i got my job....I didn't work any less for it. Which is what some people are implying.

And thats great, I commend you, but there are people that use the system for their benefit. The system IS flawed, and it is my opinion that there SHOULD NOT be black/white/hispanic only scholarships, THAT is racism/discrimination.

GREG@94GT 05-18-2006 12:07 PM


Originally Posted by macs03GT
So the reason you didn't get one of those MANY scholarships is becuase you weren't black?!?!? funny becuase i got a "non-black" scholarship also and didn't have a problem. What was i thinking.....i didn't get these scholarships becuase i did well...it was AA. How simple minded of me. Thank you AA!!!! You put me through school. I would have never overcame if it wasn't for AA. THANK GOD FOR AA!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

All i'm saying is i've had to work just as hard as the next guy.....if it was just becuase of AA that i got my job....I didn't work any less for it. Which is what some people are implying.

please... go read the whole article I wrote... I have a feeling that you skimmed through it...

AA didnt GET YOU A ****IN SCHOLARSHIP...

AA did this...

there are 10 scholarships for EVERYBODY
then there are 3 for blacks
2 for asian
2 for indians
blah blah blah

AA doesnt hire minorities instead of whites...

they pay companies to do that...

I swear... I don't feel like re writing every thing I already wrote... go read it... all of it in detail...

Rabbit 05-18-2006 12:07 PM


Originally Posted by macs03GT
...it was AA. How simple minded of me. Thank you AA!!!! You put me through school. I would have never overcame if it wasn't for AA. THANK GOD FOR AA!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

Hello, my name is AJ and I'm an alcoholic.



wait, **** wrong thread.......



(trying to lighten the mood before this thread gets ugly.......)

madmatt 05-18-2006 12:10 PM


Originally Posted by Rabbit
Hello, my name is AJ and I'm an alcoholic.



wait, **** wrong thread.......



(trying to lighten the mood before this thread gets ugly.......)

:( I fear its too late...

94StangGTVert 05-18-2006 12:11 PM

I think this thread got ugly a long time ago.


My dog is licking my toes. She doesn't have a care in the world :)

dsdaddy 05-18-2006 12:13 PM


Originally Posted by GREG@94GT
ok funny guy:rolleyes:

but this really should offend anyone

Wrong...it shouldn't offend anyone who shares your opinion. Unfortunately (for you) not everyone feels the same way you do (get used to it, it happens) and this is where you end up offending people. I don't know if anyone has told you this, but (you may want to sit down for this) your opinion MAY not be the same as everyone else's. I have no problem with you voicing your opinion, but don't do it expecting everyone to agree and then acting shocked when someone disagrees.

I'd love to stay and chat some more, but it's time to go to work so you can rest easy at night...unless of course it bothers that a minority is helping to defend this country. Rest assured, I was not "hired" due to any AA process, I merely decided to do my part to help keep your right to speak your mind.

Sleep Safe, A Black Man is Watching Over You!!!:devil2:

macs03GT 05-18-2006 12:14 PM


Originally Posted by madmatt
And thats great, I commend you, but there are people that use the system for their benefit. The system IS flawed, and it is my opinion that there SHOULD NOT be black/white/hispanic only scholarships, THAT is racism/discrimination.

I understand what your saying.

04DarkShadowGT 05-18-2006 12:17 PM

Stop with the reverse racism stuff. Yeah maybe affirmative action has went further than it was meant to, but your lone example of one hispanic owned company getting a contract with a higher price, does not mean it is a total failure.

I understand that sometimes a black kid may get a scholarship with a 3.9 when a white kid had a 4.0. So what, it all boils down to the people who run the scholarship can give it to whomever they want.

That being said the majority of people getting scholarships are white, no one can argue that for a minute. If a company, rich black guy, rich white guy, whomever wants to give a scholarship to only black kids, so what.

If you ever have a scholarship you can give it to only white kids.

Some of you are acting like we white people have it so rough because 2% of white kids get their scholarship taken away by a minority. Please, walk a day in the life of someone else and then come back with how things may change.

And your # 1 lesson for today............................LIFE ISNT FAIR GET OVER IT :)


Originally Posted by dsdaddy
Sleep Safe, A Black Man is Watching Over You!!!:devil2:

You better not steal Osamas stereo while your over there :) Stay safe man.

GREG@94GT 05-18-2006 12:17 PM


Originally Posted by dsdaddy
Wrong...it shouldn't offend anyone who shares your opinion. Unfortunately (for you) not everyone feels the same way you do (get used to it, it happens) and this is where you end up offending people. I don't know if anyone has told you this, but (you may want to sit down for this) your opinion MAY not be the same as everyone else's. I have no problem with you voicing your opinion, but don't do it expecting everyone to agree and then acting shocked when someone disagrees.

I'd love to stay and chat some more, but it's time to go to work so you can rest easy at night...unless of course it bothers that a minority is helping to defend this country. Rest assured, I was not "hired" due to any AA process, I merely decided to do my part to help keep your right to speak your mind.

Sleep Safe, A Black Man is Watching Over You!!!:devil2:

I swear to god... let me tell you something about the military...

In order to enroll... you need to be 18 have most of your senses... they hire everyone... ok... so AA has absoultelu ****in nothing to do with your job... nor did i say it did... nor did i say you were lazy...

Also... thank you for server our fine country... I don't understand how that got involved, but thank you anyway I truely appreciate the work that you are doing:beerchug:


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