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Nightwing · 07-17-2008, 08:04 AM

i think i'm just going to sell my 5.4 project .. feels like i dont have the time for it anymore..

myillwillinc · 07-17-2008, 11:03 AM

bummer man...

shakin_bakin · 07-17-2008, 02:36 PM

really...
well im still in the lost of how navigator heads suck?
and cant the lower of a cobra attach to the Navi heads??

Explain how they suck please? not cause im trying to argue, i just want to know your opinions and reason behind this as it interests me lol, and may make me aware of some issues i dont know about

Thanks
Zink

na svt · 07-17-2008, 04:15 PM

The cobra lower will bolt up but the intake's ports are much smaller than the ports in the heads.

The Navi heads can be made to flow but they must be enlarged to do so. This makes their already large ports even bigger which kills velocity.

I just spec'd some cams for a motor that made 490rwhp n/a with a break-in tune. It's a 322 that used 03/04 heads. Check out page 82 of the latest 5.0 mustang and you will see the article on it.

shakin_bakin · 07-17-2008, 05:18 PM

ya... i was just reading that article lol

thats a beast of a blower though...

i wonder what the price tag is...

i started reading alot more into the navi heads... guess i will sell them for 400$ or so...
and get cobra heads...

are you building a 5.4 4 valve?? with the cobra intake on top? and a blower? roots style blower?

na svt · 07-17-2008, 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shakin_bakin

are you building a 5.4 4 valve?? with the cobra intake on top? and a blower? roots style blower?

Nope, none of the above, but I am spec'ing some cams for a Whipple cjarged 322 with 03/04 heads and also a 324 that has a stock intake and 03/04 heads.

SleepingGT · 07-17-2008, 08:26 PM

i'm guessing still no word on the infamous intakes?

myillwillinc · 07-17-2008, 11:28 PM

if u have navi heads you can get a sullivan intake that will solve all your problems.....

shakin_bakin · 07-18-2008, 12:26 AM

well, i put the heads up for sale on corral, so if they sell they sell if not then i will keep them....
6 one way half a dozen another... if they dont sell i will build them up and use them if they do sell i will then go buy 03/04 cobra heads, and then build them up...

cause being able to use on 03/04 cobra intake manifold, and superchargers for that and all other interchangeable parts there are for the 03/04 means my options are endless....

And it would be relatively cheap to do this as well...

cdjnight · 07-19-2008, 10:03 AM

Finally got it running right and went to the track. Made 5 passes on the 1/8th mile all in the 7's. The best being 7.67 @ 92 miles per hour.

SleepingGT · 07-19-2008, 11:39 AM

anyone know if the 99-04 jba shorty headers will fit with a 5.4?

g8tr · 07-19-2008, 06:29 PM

anyone know the height diff between the kenne bell 2.6 vrs. stock lightning blower. the kenne bell intake is on the side instead of on top like the lightning blower. may help a little for hood clearance for guys wanting pd plower.

shakin_bakin · 07-19-2008, 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by g8tr

anyone know the height diff between the kenne bell 2.6 vrs. stock lightning blower. the kenne bell intake is on the side instead of on top like the lightning blower. may help a little for hood clearance for guys wanting pd plower.

I was thinking about this as well, i was like hmmm lol... would be good if it did fit... i think it wouldnt be much taller then the stock i wouldnt think...

but if someone has had one previously would be nice... might actually be faster to get an answer in a 03/04 cobra section....

myillwillinc · 07-20-2008, 11:43 PM

how about a roll call for everyone on where they stand on thier projects?

i'm waiting on headers t put my motor back in andstart on the turbos.....

bassman97 · 07-21-2008, 06:56 AM

I'm waiting on cash still. Too many things are going wrong on my car that eats away at the cash. Plus $4/gal gas isn't helping either...

SleepingGT · 07-21-2008, 09:09 AM

http://store.summitracing.com/egnsea...115+4294924666

looking at buying some of these if they will fit....motor should be done in a few days

Morgan The Black · 07-21-2008, 01:47 PM

I've got my long block together, I've got the cam's degree'd and the right (passenger) side cam was off by about 9 degrees, and the left (drivers) side was only off by 2 degrees. On a side note, I bought new OEM ford chains and they had two marked links on one end and one marked link on the other, I can only assume this is to make up for it being a odd number of links, I think this was covered before.

The insurance adjuster just came by this morning, and since I'm gonna have most of my car apart, I'm tempted to go ahead and swap it in, but like everyone else I need an intake, so its either wait... or drop the cash for adapters and a PI intake, which I dont want to do.

96blackgt54 · 07-22-2008, 07:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by myillwillinc

how about a roll call for everyone on where they stand on thier projects?

i'm waiting on headers t put my motor back in andstart on the turbos.....

I've got everything needed to finish the Holley blower install and a little bit more machining on the cranck pulley. The pulley has been in the lathe for about two months now waiting on me to put some belt grooves in LOL.

First things first! I got to get my colon removed! This project would have been done back in April, if it had not be for Ulcerative Colitis. Stupid colon, stupid UC.

davidg68124 · 07-22-2008, 11:40 AM

My project went on hold and then I found a 2005 GT with a Vortech. I ended up getting that instead and with the 3V I think I will be much happier in the long term. I will start actually looking for a bottem end here again soon and I think I will go to 5.4 with the Vortech. Should make a pretty kick ass DD when I am done.

David

shakin_bakin · 07-22-2008, 12:51 PM

Well i bought a TR6060 to put in,
Navi heads, sitting at the house, need to send them off to get ported polished and port together, the block, pistons crank, rods, all sitting in my kitchen floor, hood is in the garage...
im in Iraq...

4 months or so tell i get to play with it all

thinking im giong to put the 4v adapter plates on and run the o3/04 cobra super charger and intake. How much boost can i run with this? 20 PSI or will it stop at like 12-13 before the seals break?

Bondfreak13 · 07-22-2008, 03:21 PM

Waiting to pull the heads off this weekend and ship them up to GA to get done.

shakin_bakin · 07-22-2008, 09:37 PM

TR6060 into 99 GT
so my questions are has anyone done this swap?

It will bolt up, But its like a T-56 on steriods so you have to cut part of the Trans tunnel out correct?

Also have to move the shifter back and cut out part of the center console.

Now, here is my idea....

I cut out the Trans tunnel, get some new pieces of metal roll them a little to fit... Tack them on ... then looks good weld them in, to make my trans tunnel wider, for this trans...

Problem 2 that i have few ideas for is the center console... the only reall idea i have, is to make a center console out of wood and carpet the center console to match my current carpet of the car, and take the cup holder plastic pieces, and defroster, and place that on the new carpet center console.

Or what about a fiberglass center console that is the color of the outside of the car. Outisde of car is a dark green inside is tan leather seats tan carpet... so i think the fiberglass thing would be awesome just dont know who i could have do it...

thoughts... or tips??

myillwillinc · 07-22-2008, 10:33 PM

the fiberglass one sounds better

shakin_bakin · 07-23-2008, 12:56 PM

well does anyone know who can make such a item? i can get it painted by a friend....

just need it fabbed up lol

what would something like this even cost?

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07-17-2008, 08:04 AM	#4471 (permalink)
Nightwing Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Kingsport Posts: 47	i think i'm just going to sell my 5.4 project .. feels like i dont have the time for it anymore.. __________________ 96 Silver GT w/ 5.4 project FOR SALE Click link for details http://knoxville.craigslist.org/cto/823438140.html 04 Comp. orange Cobra

07-17-2008, 11:03 AM	#4472 (permalink)
myillwillinc Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 651	bummer man... __________________ 5.4 project in progress linky-> http://www.illwillinc.com/97mustang.htm T-Rods Coatings - Custom all the way.... http://www.illwillinc.com/

07-17-2008, 02:36 PM	#4473 (permalink)
shakin_bakin Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 173	hmm really... well im still in the lost of how navigator heads suck? and cant the lower of a cobra attach to the Navi heads?? Explain how they suck please? not cause im trying to argue, i just want to know your opinions and reason behind this as it interests me lol, and may make me aware of some issues i dont know about Thanks Zink

07-17-2008, 04:15 PM	#4474 (permalink)
na svt Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 73	The cobra lower will bolt up but the intake's ports are much smaller than the ports in the heads. The Navi heads can be made to flow but they must be enlarged to do so. This makes their already large ports even bigger which kills velocity. I just spec'd some cams for a motor that made 490rwhp n/a with a break-in tune. It's a 322 that used 03/04 heads. Check out page 82 of the latest 5.0 mustang and you will see the article on it. Last edited by na svt : 07-17-2008 at 04:31 PM.

07-17-2008, 05:18 PM	#4475 (permalink)
shakin_bakin Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 173	ya... i was just reading that article lol thats a beast of a blower though... i wonder what the price tag is... i started reading alot more into the navi heads... guess i will sell them for 400$ or so... and get cobra heads... are you building a 5.4 4 valve?? with the cobra intake on top? and a blower? roots style blower?

07-17-2008, 08:26 PM	#4477 (permalink)
SleepingGT Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 146	i'm guessing still no word on the infamous intakes?

07-17-2008, 11:28 PM	#4478 (permalink)
myillwillinc Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 651	if u have navi heads you can get a sullivan intake that will solve all your problems..... __________________ 5.4 project in progress linky-> http://www.illwillinc.com/97mustang.htm T-Rods Coatings - Custom all the way.... http://www.illwillinc.com/

07-18-2008, 12:26 AM	#4479 (permalink)
shakin_bakin Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 173	4v well, i put the heads up for sale on corral, so if they sell they sell if not then i will keep them.... 6 one way half a dozen another... if they dont sell i will build them up and use them if they do sell i will then go buy 03/04 cobra heads, and then build them up... cause being able to use on 03/04 cobra intake manifold, and superchargers for that and all other interchangeable parts there are for the 03/04 means my options are endless.... And it would be relatively cheap to do this as well...

07-19-2008, 10:03 AM	#4480 (permalink)
cdjnight Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 117	Finally got it running right and went to the track. Made 5 passes on the 1/8th mile all in the 7's. The best being 7.67 @ 92 miles per hour. __________________ Momentum is everything till you drive off a cliff! 2003 Mustang GT, 5.4L Triton V8(LOL), Comp 270's gears and springs, Intercooled Precision T63, 42lb injectors, Flowmaster 3.5" Single Chamber, B&M Holeshot 3000, Racegate, Sniper Commando Tuning, Kenne Bell BAP,BG Mighty Sumo pump, MSD MOD6, LM1 wideband, Best e.t, 7.67@92mph in the 1/8th. on MT drag radials. No dyno tune yet. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DaJ2yQH1Ezs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1hiMJy3ezk

07-19-2008, 11:39 AM	#4481 (permalink)
SleepingGT Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 146	anyone know if the 99-04 jba shorty headers will fit with a 5.4?

07-19-2008, 06:29 PM	#4482 (permalink)
g8tr Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 2	anyone know the height diff between the kenne bell 2.6 vrs. stock lightning blower. the kenne bell intake is on the side instead of on top like the lightning blower. may help a little for hood clearance for guys wanting pd plower.

07-20-2008, 11:43 PM	#4484 (permalink)
myillwillinc Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 651	how about a roll call for everyone on where they stand on thier projects? i'm waiting on headers t put my motor back in andstart on the turbos..... __________________ 5.4 project in progress linky-> http://www.illwillinc.com/97mustang.htm T-Rods Coatings - Custom all the way.... http://www.illwillinc.com/

07-21-2008, 06:56 AM	#4485 (permalink)
bassman97 blank Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: North Jersey Posts: 1,494	I'm waiting on cash still. Too many things are going wrong on my car that eats away at the cash. Plus $4/gal gas isn't helping either...

07-21-2008, 09:09 AM	#4486 (permalink)
SleepingGT Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 146	http://store.summitracing.com/egnsea...115+4294924666 looking at buying some of these if they will fit....motor should be done in a few days

07-21-2008, 01:47 PM	#4487 (permalink)
Morgan The Black Creature Of The Wheel Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mebane, NC Posts: 101	I've got my long block together, I've got the cam's degree'd and the right (passenger) side cam was off by about 9 degrees, and the left (drivers) side was only off by 2 degrees. On a side note, I bought new OEM ford chains and they had two marked links on one end and one marked link on the other, I can only assume this is to make up for it being a odd number of links, I think this was covered before. The insurance adjuster just came by this morning, and since I'm gonna have most of my car apart, I'm tempted to go ahead and swap it in, but like everyone else I need an intake, so its either wait... or drop the cash for adapters and a PI intake, which I dont want to do. __________________ Mechanism, I restore thy spirit. Let the God-Machine breathe half-life unto thy veins and render thee functional.

07-22-2008, 11:40 AM	#4489 (permalink)
davidg68124 Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Omaha, NE Posts: 23	My project went on hold and then I found a 2005 GT with a Vortech. I ended up getting that instead and with the 3V I think I will be much happier in the long term. I will start actually looking for a bottem end here again soon and I think I will go to 5.4 with the Vortech. Should make a pretty kick ass DD when I am done. David __________________ 2005 Mustang GT with a Vortech S-2 BDRA #91 Mods: Intake: none, 39 lb Injectors, 255 LPH Fuel pump (kit parts) Tuner: Diablo Predator Tune (Vortech non- after cooled base) Exhaust: stock Suspension: stock Brakes: stock

07-22-2008, 12:51 PM	#4490 (permalink)
shakin_bakin Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 173	where i stand Well i bought a TR6060 to put in, Navi heads, sitting at the house, need to send them off to get ported polished and port together, the block, pistons crank, rods, all sitting in my kitchen floor, hood is in the garage... im in Iraq... 4 months or so tell i get to play with it all thinking im giong to put the 4v adapter plates on and run the o3/04 cobra super charger and intake. How much boost can i run with this? 20 PSI or will it stop at like 12-13 before the seals break?

07-22-2008, 03:21 PM	#4491 (permalink)
Bondfreak13 Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Palm Bay, Florida Posts: 28	Waiting to pull the heads off this weekend and ship them up to GA to get done. __________________ 2000 Crown Victoria P73 5.4 SOHC Swap Comming Soon.

07-22-2008, 09:37 PM	#4492 (permalink)
shakin_bakin Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 173	trans help.... TR6060 into 99 GT so my questions are has anyone done this swap? It will bolt up, But its like a T-56 on steriods so you have to cut part of the Trans tunnel out correct? Also have to move the shifter back and cut out part of the center console. Now, here is my idea.... I cut out the Trans tunnel, get some new pieces of metal roll them a little to fit... Tack them on ... then looks good weld them in, to make my trans tunnel wider, for this trans... Problem 2 that i have few ideas for is the center console... the only reall idea i have, is to make a center console out of wood and carpet the center console to match my current carpet of the car, and take the cup holder plastic pieces, and defroster, and place that on the new carpet center console. Or what about a fiberglass center console that is the color of the outside of the car. Outisde of car is a dark green inside is tan leather seats tan carpet... so i think the fiberglass thing would be awesome just dont know who i could have do it... thoughts... or tips??

07-22-2008, 10:33 PM	#4493 (permalink)
myillwillinc Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 651	the fiberglass one sounds better __________________ 5.4 project in progress linky-> http://www.illwillinc.com/97mustang.htm T-Rods Coatings - Custom all the way.... http://www.illwillinc.com/

07-23-2008, 12:56 PM	#4494 (permalink)
shakin_bakin Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 173	hmm well does anyone know who can make such a item? i can get it painted by a friend.... just need it fabbed up lol what would something like this even cost?