Thanks chip6990, i love that it looks factory. I'm from TN, my parents live in Roane County, Harriman TN. I'm stationed here at SHAW AFB.

 

harriman aint far from me...i live in greeneville bout 1hr from harriman...

and THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR SERVING OUR COUNTRY.....SOLDIER ON!!!!!!

 

I appreciate it! it's good to know people still care. Greeneville is real close to Knoxville right?

 

yes, bout 50 miles, i can be at pigeon forge in 1 hr, ut stadium in 1hr 20min

 

I forget where i was looking now but i found a build your own turbo kit. It came with the basic stuff you need. I will have to look into it.

 

I saw that kit at http://www.proturbokits.com i could build a single turbo kit for $2800 with a 76mm turbo. That's alot cheaper than buying a kit. Thanks for talking me out of the Twin Turbo kit r3dn3ck.

 

nuh-uh... I didn't talk you out of anything (you're welcome). I presented an option. No prob. I would highly suggest you speak with a turbo specialist who knows the formulas to spec a particular turbo head unit. Proper selection of your impeller wheels is critical to proper turbo performance. Make sure they know what kind of motor you're putting it on and your performance goals. If you haven't figured out your performance goals... now's the time.

FWIW... a 5.4 with a turbo will easily pump out 450hp/500tq at really pump gas friendly boost levels. A 450hp mustang is right at the limit of what I consider an easily street driven car. After that it starts getting hard to enjoy driving it on the street.

Don't forget that you'll need a tubular K-member. Griggs would be nice but I'd go with a Maximum Motorsports unit. Can't make a turbo work right without changing the k-member. Plan on that extra 650 bones.

 

well i have 3 friends that have 620-640rwhp daily drivers!!!!

 

Great... you have 3 friends with cars I wouldn't want to drive to work every day. Nothing down on them... or you.

My point is that when you have to drive it everyday 600hp becomes a liability for most people. You have to be ever mindful of the fact that no tire in the world is going to stick if you stab the gas just a tad too hard... and a light car with rear wheel drive and a short wheelbase delivering massive power... that makes for loose rear end action which most people frankly can't handle. If your friends are comfy with it... cool. I'm saying that in very real terms a 450rwhp car is a beast that's fun as hell. A 500hp mustang always seemed a little less fun to me. 600+ is just hard to handle in my area.

I'm NOT saying that you can't stick a 1000hp monster on the street and drive it every day... I'm saying that doing so is a planet-******-****** level pain-in-the-azz enough of the time to not warrant much of anyone doing it.

 

still a whole lotta FUN though

 

sorry, had to be the 100th reply to this thread... lmao:clap:

 

I was actually thinking to be around 700 to 800 rwhp. It wont be my daily driver then but just a fun toy to go spank some chevy A$$ with. Or those stupid turbo imports that come from the manufacturer running low 13's. Then bump the boost up some more to Run even better. Screw that. i want some to have almost a full out race car to beat me. Plus to if you look at what the new GTO has 405hp at the flywheel and the new Corvette same thing then the Z06 is 500 something. i don't want a completely stock car beating me after all of my hard work and money going into it.

Oh i bought a Garrett T84 turbo off of a John Deere Tractor for $300 on ebay if it doesn't do what i need i can always resell it. The owner said it would work with built big blocks or small blocks so we will see.

Does anyone have a reccomendation for fuel pump and injectors for this application. i am going to look more into it before putting it all together because i want it done right the first time.

 

60# inj. maybe 72??# 03/04 Cobra tank and pump with Kenne Bell BAP

 

That's what i was thinking. It's going to be a gas guzzler.

Hey if anyone wants to attempt porting and polishing there own heads then i found a sight that goes into detail about it. http://www.sa-motorsports.com/diyport.shtm Also they have the accessories for your die grinder available which is sold at Summit racing a lot cheaper. I'm going to get a junk head to see how i do first then if all goes well i will go at it on my 5.4 heads.

Anyone have a junk cylinder head?

 

porting your own heads is dicey at best. The PI heads aren't really that out of whack. They only need a little work on certain areas. Taking a grinder to them without understanding how they flow and where the shortcomings are will usually result in poorer performance. It's not all removing material. Nuff on that.

That tractor turbo should probably generate like 20lbs.. does it have an adjustable wastegate? You'll want to take it to a turbo specialist and have them set the wastegate for whatever boost pressure you're looking for. For 800hp you'll be needing at least 18-20psi unless you can solve the flow issues. That's not pump gas friendly by any stretch. Alternately you can up the compression to 9-9.5 and get 800hp much easier but you'll have an even bigger octane issue then and have to back off a chunk of timing and run pretty rich.

Injectors.. 72's is my best guess... it's gunna idle like a hog with a cough. You'll have to go to a sumped tank with at least an Aeromotive A-1000 fuel pump and you'll have to go to a return style fuel system.

Enjoy.

 

i have only seen 1 person use a tractor turbo, he had a 95 gt and a procharger p1...run like 12.70's @ 118, went to "DEERE" power, and idled like crap had to use a 2 step to get it off the line but ran 12.0's @ 113?

plus it looked hideous to boot!!!!! i hope yours turns out better than his did...

 

update:

Hi-Performance Solutions (www.hiperformancesolutions.com) has officially finished design and tooling for their new 4.6L 2V intake. It's big pimpin and suitable for use on a 5.4 with a set of plates. They should have them ready for delivery in May.

I'd ask you all to avoid swamping them with calls and emails unless you're buying an intake so that they can focus on getting the 5.4L intake designed and tooled up. I watch them closely and talk to them pretty regularly so updates should be pretty consistent.

 

I just added a Poll to the thread. Please vote when you have a moment. It's important. I need sample data to give to some parts makers.

 

I am thinking of doing the swap,where can i get the intake adaptor at?

thanks

 

Reichard Racing, I believe there 300 bux

 

375 with the install kit. They only made 20 sets so if they're out you may have to wait for the other company that's coming out with a design to hit market... maybe a few months. They'll be a cast design if reports are correct and should be cheaper by a good amount.

The above is a forward looking statement. It may not come true but it also may happen sooner.

 

It says its for the 5.4 4v , will it also fit the 2v?

thanks

 

THEY ALSO MAKE THEM FOR 2V CONVERSIONS, AND SAME $$$ AS THE 4V'S

 

I got a 5.4 free from work ,has a spun bearing but still runs,was looking to see what info was out here about this swap. This is a good thread I think I'am conviced.Now to find crank, rods, and pistons. I'll be keeping track of this thread.

 

I personally am looking at this.

I know some people aren't a fan of SHM, but the the rods/crank/pistons are of different companies. Good for 700HP.
http://www.seanhylandmotorsport.com/...c5a18406d3455c

 

all your buying is the sean hyland name, even though its made by different companies, its a little high on price, cause he is selling it...just my 2 cents

the 5.4 cranks are made the same as cobra cranks, so all you really need is rods and pistons. piston bore is same as mustang 3.552 but i am not sure of the 5.4 rod length...

 

So how much power can the stock 5.4 with stand. I'm thinking of getting a F-150 and doing the upgrade thing to it. I can't leave stuff alone before I have to tinker with it.

 

What about the Lightning blocks?

 

Well im new here so HI

Anyway, I drive a 98 Lincoln town car and was looking into a PI intake and head swap, After reading this thread I figure this is the way im going to go since it will cost less the the PI swap into my car

One thing I am not sure of is the whole stock5.4 intake thing and why it wont work in the swap. If its the location of the throttle body on the opposite side or ???

Not sure if any of you guys know much about my car but hope you can help me. THANKS

 

If you read that link from my previous post it goes into great detail exactly what needs to be done to port and polish your heads. i understand its not all about how much but it will only be a little bit. You just port to the size of the whole in your gasket and do the same for the intake manifold. Of course i will have a cast intake when they come out. I am going to find a junk head first and try it. if i don't seem fit for the job then i will let some one else do it.

The turbo did not come with a wastegate but i will purchase another. I will do what i have to make it work. If it's inevitable then my brother wants a bigger turbo for his Powerstroke. "FORD FAMILY HERE!!" But i just saw it for cheap and new i can always resell it if i need to. I want my car to be able to run on pump gas so as high as i can go i will. and maybe i'll make a tune for the track so i can put in some race gas and turn up the boost. Nontheless it will be nice to see what kind of power i can get out of this motor. I am definitely going to get the motor up to it's peak potential with a dyno tune before i stick the turbo on.

I will look into the fuel stuff. Thanks for the info.