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View Poll Results: What are your 5.4L swap plans?
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Not swapping. You guys are nuts for trying.
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Not swapping but find the topic interesting.
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Thinking about doing the swap but not in the next year.
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Definitely going to do the swap in the next year or so.
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Doing it now. Looking for an engine or awaiting delivery.
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Doing it now. Already bought an engine.
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Done. Got my 5.4L and showin my tail lights to camaro's every day.
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Screw 5.4, I'm going diesel 4cylinder.
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08-07-2008, 06:16 PM
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#4591 (permalink)
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Houston, TX
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ok, i'm going to post my cost list tonight... but i wanted to add a tid bit about getting a forced induction KIT on the 5.4L DOHC... Not Possible. I couldn't even pay someone to custom a job.
Apparently TTI has plans in the next year, to begin molding a piece for the 4 valve. But he told me if I could get 4-5 people to buy in and put a deposit down they could spool a prototype out in 3-4 months. Nice guys...
A list of customer service:
Sullivan Performance - A, nice-available-knowledgeable
Sean Hyland - B, knowledgeable, busy, and slow shop. (going to try to send my turbo grind cams back so we'll see how good they are)
AMP Performance - B-, lowest price i found for a new t56 kit, Tom is knowledgeable, but I get the feeling he's only interested in my money, got rude with me at one point.
Turbo Charged Power - A++, Tom is amazing, friendly, super smart, and spend 40 min. on the phone with me teaching me.
Scoggin Dickey - B+, is a buisness, they dont do many Fords, but they are smart... but your just a # to them.
Last edited by ibanezsvo; 08-07-2008 at 06:21 PM..
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08-07-2008, 06:58 PM
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#4592 (permalink)
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Join Date: Dec 2007
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hmm
Well i can get my hands on a set of custom made headers for the 5.4 navi heads... which i have... and i was thinking if i have the headers i can just custom fab the rest... fab it all together send it off to get JET coated...
I dont really plan on dropping a turbo kit on for another year... unless the price is wright....
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08-07-2008, 08:32 PM
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#4593 (permalink)
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 109
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5.4L DOHC Cost
cost.jpg
There's one thing not up-to date ... I've already bought the head studs and gaskets...
Last edited by ibanezsvo; 08-07-2008 at 08:36 PM..
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08-08-2008, 06:29 AM
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#4594 (permalink)
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Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 219
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my total cost list
rods, rings, pistons 999.00
MMR rods arp 2000, Manley forged -11cc and Manley rings
Lightning crank 169.00
fresh turned .20/.20 with bearings
arp head/main studs approx 300.00
Cylinder heads 850.00
TEA stage II heads with valve train
Nitrous Cams 599.00
Custom nitrous cam from Modular Powerhouse
full gasket set 200.00
Full timing chain/tensioner kit 165.00
JBA titanium shorty headers 300.00
ported primaries and ceramic coated
longblock assembly labor 960.44
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08-08-2008, 06:30 AM
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#4595 (permalink)
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Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 146
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Quote:
Originally Posted by shakin_bakin
So i think they will get much better gas mileage im going to drop back down to 3:27's i have 3:73's now... and with the T-56 i should get prettty decent highway mileage..
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A 3.27 rear gear combined with the 1st gear of a T56 will result in a very slow accellerating car, especially if it's n/a or turbo.
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08-08-2008, 06:46 PM
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#4596 (permalink)
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 213
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gears
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Originally Posted by na svt
A 3.27 rear gear combined with the 1st gear of a T56 will result in a very slow accellerating car, especially if it's n/a or turbo.
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I was going to try and drive it with 3:73's and then see where i was at... Then switch... i was thinking i would probably switch down... but you probably know better then me... So guess if i get it installed and 3:73's arent even doing good... ill defintly know you were correct on the 3:27's
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08-09-2008, 12:25 PM
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#4597 (permalink)
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Member
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Palm Bay, Florida
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I'd say if the 3:73's are too much gear try 3:55's. They are a good all around gear.
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2000 Crown Victoria P73
5.4 SOHC Swap Comming Soon.
Trick Flow 38cc heads, HPS 5.4 Intake

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08-09-2008, 07:05 PM
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#4598 (permalink)
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friend of the machines
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Oronoco, MN
Posts: 202
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bondfreak13
I'd say if the 3:73's are too much gear try 3:55's. They are a good all around gear.
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If the gears are already installed it doesn't ever pay to switch by one ratio, not nearly enough difference to justify the cost. FWIW I had 3.90s installed with an auto trans and thought they were perfect, but I also had 315 Nitto drag radials on the back..... 
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'01 Roush F150 Supercrew
264rwhp/343rwtq, OBX longtubes & Maggie spun cats, Flowmaster cat-back, '03 Cobra air meter, ported heads, 9.8:1, VMP tuned XCAL2, e-fans
'99 GT, 5.4 SOHC, life is better with 400ft-lbs....
12.94 on Nittos... sold
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08-10-2008, 08:14 AM
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#4599 (permalink)
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Wowbagger hates me too!
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Magrathea/California
Posts: 9,468
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I like the 3.55's for my combo.
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Built 5.5L 2v and Maximum Motorsports Max Grip box.
www.squarerootofone.com
64,999,987 firearms owners killed no one yesterday.
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08-10-2008, 08:56 AM
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#4600 (permalink)
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Senior Member
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08-10-2008, 08:59 AM
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#4601 (permalink)
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as far as the gears go, 3.73's are pretty much the best all around gear for a 5.4 as far as actual drag racing on slicks is concerned
3.73's with 26" tire is great for high 10 passes rpm wise, if you go faster than that just use a 28" more sidewall for higher power grip and gives you a little more top end....if you really blow those off then go to a 29.5 and adjust the wheel wells, you will need the extra sidewall of a 29.5 at those powerlevels
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08-10-2008, 08:06 PM
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#4602 (permalink)
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: bham, ala
Posts: 1,128
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update:
my motor and trans are back in waiting for intake and exhaust.
hunter(sleepingGT) has his motor at my house for instal this weekend hopefully.
my garage is now the home of the 5.4 swap, i've pulled/installed my motor/trans 4 times so far. and hunter is next.
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08-11-2008, 01:19 PM
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#4603 (permalink)
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2008
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SleepingGT
as far as the gears go, 3.73's are pretty much the best all around gear for a 5.4 as far as actual drag racing on slicks is concerned
3.73's with 26" tire is great for high 10 passes rpm wise, if you go faster than that just use a 28" more sidewall for higher power grip and gives you a little more top end....if you really blow those off then go to a 29.5 and adjust the wheel wells, you will need the extra sidewall of a 29.5 at those powerlevels
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28's rub the quarter. Have you tried to put 29.5 tires on a mustang?
I wouldn't hesitate to run a 4.10 gear, especially if the bottom end is forged.
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08-11-2008, 06:11 PM
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#4604 (permalink)
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Join Date: Dec 2007
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LDC cooling mod
Is the LDC cooling mod needed for for the 04 navi heads??
Or is it advised i guess to have it?
Or do the Navi heads not have a cooling problem like the 03/04 cobra heads...
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08-12-2008, 07:05 AM
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#4605 (permalink)
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Lawrenceburg,KY
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An update on my build!
I finally finished the 10 rib crank pulley for the Holley blower. The O.D of the pulley is 6.750" and the blower pulley is 2.750". That should put the 2.4l blower at a little less then 2.5-1 rotation. Would that mean it should see 5.9l per rotation? The blower can handle 16,000 rpms. My plans are to keep it around 5,000 rpms max and keep the 3.27 gear in it.
I really hate how long it is taken me to get my project done. I have all the parts needed to finish, just don't have the strength to work on it  . I wished I have never started on it so I could still be driving the car, even though it was a turd!
I have surgery to get my colon removed next week and in place a poop shoot(bag). Hopefully I can start to live life again. 12 years of this shit!
WISH ME LUCK GUYS!
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08-12-2008, 07:37 AM
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#4606 (permalink)
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Wowbagger hates me too!
Join Date: Nov 2005
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96black... buy some good luck man. You're making me sad.
shakin: as far as I can tell it's not a bad thing to do period on the modulars in mustangs. The coolant flow dead ends on the driver side head. I got my fix in this way:
The HPS intake has bungs cast in in the right places to make it pretty easy to do.
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08-12-2008, 10:41 AM
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#4607 (permalink)
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Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Lawrenceburg,KY
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I need to do the coolant mod to the holley intake. R3D maybe you can make me one of those snazzy crossover hoses?
What is that on the driver side fuel rail? a sensor? or is it not on the fuel rail?
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08-12-2008, 10:53 AM
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#4608 (permalink)
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I can zip one up for you no problem. It'll cost 35 bones shipped, includes -6 hose pre-assembled with aluminum fittings and 2x -6AN to 3/8" NPT adapters. That's for straight hose end fittings. If you want any angle fittings (60,90,120 degree) on the hose ends (not really needed but nice looking) it's 10 bucks extra.
LMK... I can zip one up tonight.
The thing on the rail is my fuel pressure sensor.
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Built 5.5L 2v and Maximum Motorsports Max Grip box.
www.squarerootofone.com
64,999,987 firearms owners killed no one yesterday.
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08-12-2008, 05:12 PM
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#4609 (permalink)
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ibanezsvo
ok, i'm going to post my cost list tonight... but i wanted to add a tid bit about getting a forced induction KIT on the 5.4L DOHC... Not Possible. I couldn't even pay someone to custom a job.
Apparently TTI has plans in the next year, to begin molding a piece for the 4 valve. But he told me if I could get 4-5 people to buy in and put a deposit down they could spool a prototype out in 3-4 months. Nice guys...
A list of customer service:
Sullivan Performance - A, nice-available-knowledgeable
Sean Hyland - B, knowledgeable, busy, and slow shop. (going to try to send my turbo grind cams back so we'll see how good they are)
AMP Performance - B-, lowest price i found for a new t56 kit, Tom is knowledgeable, but I get the feeling he's only interested in my money, got rude with me at one point.
Turbo Charged Power - A++, Tom is amazing, friendly, super smart, and spend 40 min. on the phone with me teaching me.
Scoggin Dickey - B+, is a buisness, they dont do many Fords, but they are smart... but your just a # to them.
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mmr Makes a 5.4 dohc turbo kit
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08-12-2008, 05:14 PM
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#4610 (permalink)
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Senior Member
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Quote:
Originally Posted by na svt
28's rub the quarter. Have you tried to put 29.5 tires on a mustang?
I wouldn't hesitate to run a 4.10 gear, especially if the bottom end is forged.
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28's fit fine on my car with bullit springs and stock shocks, with adjustable rear coilovers for ride height and a little work on the rear fender wells a 29.5 shouldn't be too difficult
Last edited by SleepingGT; 08-12-2008 at 05:17 PM..
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08-12-2008, 05:18 PM
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#4611 (permalink)
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anyone know how much extra clearance an 03/04 cobra hood gives? i need something that the 5.4 will fit under with an nx plate
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08-12-2008, 11:17 PM
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#4612 (permalink)
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: bham, ala
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more goodies for me today.....
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08-13-2008, 05:15 AM
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#4613 (permalink)
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More like "GOOD...NESS"
What do plan to pump with that thing, sewage!?
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08-13-2008, 10:20 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 96blackgt54
More like "GOOD...NESS"
What do plan to pump with that thing, sewage!?
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oil
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08-13-2008, 11:24 AM
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#4615 (permalink)
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Location: Lawrenceburg,KY
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OIL ! ?
Does Texas know about a pump like that? LOL
J/J
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08-13-2008, 01:03 PM
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#4616 (permalink)
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Wowbagger hates me too!
Join Date: Nov 2005
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96black... got your payment but no shipping address was provided. Could you PM me an address to ship to... it's ready and waiting to go.
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08-13-2008, 04:56 PM
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#4617 (permalink)
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anything new on that supercharger bracket that was supposed to be made for the 5.4???
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08-13-2008, 08:37 PM
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#4618 (permalink)
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Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Houston, TX
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ibanezsvo
ok, i'm going to post my cost list tonight... but i wanted to add a tid bit about getting a forced induction KIT on the 5.4L DOHC... Not Possible. I couldn't even pay someone to custom a job. ...
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ok I was sorta wrong... While I still dont think there is a kit made, all mod. engines have the same exaust port, so the 98 Cobra kits should have manifolds to fit, they'll just need to be modified slightly by a muffler shop. - also since I don't want to have more than 700 hp (i dont have beefed up rear end, and just a spec. T56 (i got last week) + I want to keep from being chased off after my first pass)
I started this project in late Feb. and I think its going tooooo long. So I'm going to take out a loan and finish up the last 10k.
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08-14-2008, 05:24 AM
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#4619 (permalink)
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Senior Member
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Location: Lawrenceburg,KY
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Quote:
Originally Posted by shakin_bakin
anything new on that supercharger bracket that was supposed to be made for the 5.4???
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I assume you are asking me this? I did agree to help modify "A" supercharger bracket.
I never saw plans or the actual bracket it self. Not sure if I missed what the guy wanted to do.
I will, however, still help out.
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08-14-2008, 08:47 AM
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#4620 (permalink)
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Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: bham, ala
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the oil scavenge pump isn't much bigger then the A1000 fuel pump. it just looks big.
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