Anyone intrested in 5.4L swaps, in here. Need you to opine. - Page 134

cardude · 04-04-2008, 08:58 AM

id tell you what i would not regreat. the procharger feeding an eaton....compound boost.

kinda like what the hellion hellraiser kit does.

whistle at idle and whine when the pedals to the metal

just think boon and u have the boost from the eaton...and then that centi. blower starts building up boost and it pulls harder and harder.

Mustangguy84 · 04-04-2008, 09:09 AM

I just got my K-member in for ease of swapping purposes. Things weighs just a little over 50lbs. Not bad. Granatelli. I'm going a little over board too to keep the front end in check with the built back end: I also got Front A-arms, coil overs, and am ordering a 15:1 Rack, bumpsteer kit, camber kit. Should be fairly wild with the suspension built correctly with that much torque. Anybody else build up their suspension first or just do the swap without?

sstang · 04-04-2008, 09:37 AM

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You can find lightning lower intakes, spacer plates, intercoolers, compressors, upper plenums, and throttle bodies on ebay and craigslist pretty regularly for around 1000-3000. The installation is cake on a truck.

Okay, I was just wandering if it just bolted up or not. My dad and my bro both have Lightnings so when one of them upgrades blowers I could get it for extremely cheap.

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Anybody else build up their suspension first or just do the swap without?

I'm definitely getting tubular k-member and a-arms before I try to swap anything. It will make it a lot easier, plus make up for the extra weight of the engine.

myillwillinc · 04-04-2008, 09:55 AM

i did the k-member/a-arms/coilovers when the motor was out

*r3dn3ck* · 04-04-2008, 11:46 AM

Full Maximum Motorsports Max Grip kit, everything but a k-member so far. Have to use the stock k to try and make sure the new longtube headers fit cars with stock k-members.

You can't bolt up the blower without all the lightning lower intake bits but if you have everything but the blower it'll bolt up to those parts just fine. There's a guy out here selling a 5lb Allen kit for 1000 bucks on craigslist. If one of you wants it LMK and I'll help get it to you.

sstang · 04-04-2008, 06:47 PM

Is the Allen for a 4.6 or 5.4?

*r3dn3ck* · 04-04-2008, 07:11 PM

5.4 2v

cdjnight · 04-05-2008, 07:04 AM

Here's a pic of Mach one hood with aftermarket hood scoop, I'm still working on getting stuff mounted so not sure if it will clear everything yet.

*r3dn3ck* · 04-05-2008, 08:27 AM

the mach hood looks hawt with the scoop. Being that I hate the scoops in general that says something.

cdjnight · 04-05-2008, 11:09 AM

Thanks I was looking for a one of a kind, Its an aftermarket scoop for 05-08 Mustangs.

caballo · 04-05-2008, 11:26 PM

mkay... if this is more appropriate for PMs then so be it, but I had to sell my double OTT stang, and now have a 95 cvpi. It's got the 4.6 but it's non PI. I want a 5.4 PI engine to put in it. It's my DD, but still. I don't haul anyone in it and it's only my ride back and forth to work. But I live in a town that has a dragstrip and I need something... BECAUSE this is a friggin' Mustang town and with 2 kids and one on the way, I had to compromise. I'm doing it on the cheap, but I've got a good source for parts. Lemme know ANYTHING you got for the panther platform and I'm sorry for interrupting this AWESOME thread.

BTW I love scotch. 12 yo highland malt Scotch. That's not true. I love scotch, period.

sstang · 04-06-2008, 07:19 AM

There shouldn't be anything hard about putting it in the vic. There may be even more engine bay room, but I'm not sure. Most everything will bolt right up to the 5.4, so it should be the same as a swap into a mustang for the most part. The hardest work will probably be exhaust.

*r3dn3ck* · 04-06-2008, 07:56 AM

caballo... it's fairly simple still. A few people have put the full lightning package in the CV's. Just keep grabbin up parts and when you're ready do the swap. everything should bolt right up. You'll want to decide early between the assorted intake options.

And quit bein' sorry. It's a 5.4 swap thread, not just a 5.4 swap into mustangs.

sstang · 04-06-2008, 09:26 AM

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And quit bein' sorry. It's a 5.4 swap thread, not just a 5.4 swap into mustangs.

+1. It's basically the same thing as a swap into a mustang, so most info in this thread will apply to the CV as well.

r3dn3ck, how's that vendor account coming?

*r3dn3ck* · 04-06-2008, 09:31 AM

moving along nicely. We're onto some B2B negotiations between 2 of the companies involved. The details of that negotiation will determine the details of the account.

myillwillinc · 04-06-2008, 12:21 PM

if anyone is needing it i have access to a couple complete 5.4's now. they are all good for the block and maybe heads and misc parts.

- any word on the intake??????

JScottGT · 04-06-2008, 03:27 PM

Today was the maiden fire-up and voyage around the block. It fired up the first time after a couple cranks. I still have to work on the tune a bit to get it to idle better, but so far, so good. I rolled into the throttle some while out shaking it down and so far I'm impressed with the power. I will take it out for a little more of a drive tomorrow once I tweak the tune some.

Here is a link to the initial startup...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6smnfPEtZo

Mustangguy84 · 04-06-2008, 06:00 PM

Hey I was just wondering, why most people don't just buy the MMR block rated at 900HP for $2800. Wouldn't it just cost about the same when you pay a shop to put the motor together? Just my thoughts.

*r3dn3ck* · 04-06-2008, 06:12 PM

not always. Their 700 and 900 blocks are on either side of my build but I've got fully 300 bucks less in it including shipping than either option and I have a front cover, pulleys, tensioner, dipstick tube & dipstick, and the whole timing kit PLUS I also have ARP head and main studs. The 900 is indeed a good bargain with the manley rods and pistons but you still have to upgrade the fasteners and get all the other stuff if you're going to pop that much cash up front. A few of the guys have done their own assembly too.

sstang · 04-06-2008, 07:04 PM

Nice job JScottGT. Get some more vids after you get that thing running good. Do you have your own tuning software or what? And what mods do you have?

JScottGT · 04-06-2008, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by sstang

Nice job JScottGT. Get some more vids after you get that thing running good. Do you have your own tuning software or what? And what mods do you have?

I use the TwEECer for the programming. I got the idle dialed in today but I still need to work on the low-throttle transient response. It still bucks and kicks when lugging at < 2k RPM. A lot of that is from the cam, but it should be able to be worked out. I plan to drive it a bunch throughout the week and weather permitting, will be running on the road course next Saturday at Gingerman.

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Originally Posted by Mustangguy84

Hey I was just wondering, why most people don't just buy the MMR block rated at 900HP for $2800. Wouldn't it just cost about the same when you pay a shop to put the motor together? Just my thoughts.

I did my own buildup and was able to do the entire swap for about $1k total. Luckily the crank didnt need any machine work or it would have cost a couple hundred more. Even still doing this on the cheap is very doable if you have the mechanical ability.

cdjnight · 04-06-2008, 07:38 PM

I took it to the other extreme like some of the other guys on here,

Bought deck plates for boring and honing
Probe Pistons
File fit rings
H-beam Rods
Clevite bearings
Arp studs everywhere
CNC heads 1mm larger valves
Comp cams and springs
Comp timing gears
Sfi balancer
8 bolt flexplate
Ebay adapter plates
New chains, tensioners, and guides
New pan, pick up and oil pump
Complete machine work balancing and assy, -cam degreeing

This brings total to approx $4500+ still need a belt and spark plugs

I also went with 75mm throttle body C&L elbow and underdrive pullys, Sniper Comando tuning software, 42lb injectors and Turbo I had, Tubular K-member, control arms and coil over spring kit, 3000 B&M holeshot and probably will have another 500 in pipes for headers, exhaust, and intake piping.

martinconnelley · 04-07-2008, 07:04 AM

If anyone is interested I have a 5.4 liter engine with a burnt valve forsale in the classifieds
http://mustangboards.com/mustang-cla...tml#post321871

*r3dn3ck* · 04-07-2008, 12:54 PM

guys, he's ok. I told him to post.

blackbullitt5583 · 04-07-2008, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by myillwillinc

if anyone is needing it i have access to a couple complete 5.4's now. they are all good for the block and maybe heads and misc parts.

- any word on the intake??????

How cheap? LOL

blackbullitt5583 · 04-07-2008, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by martinconnelley

If anyone is interested I have a 5.4 liter engine with a burnt valve forsale in the classifieds
http://mustangboards.com/mustang-cla...tml#post321871

Your link is dead. How much do you want for it?

cdjnight · 04-07-2008, 04:52 PM

Turbo headers on the way! YUCK F@#$%&#........

myillwillinc · 04-07-2008, 10:10 PM

thats how my headers looked for a long time.....

cardude · 04-08-2008, 08:58 AM

speaking of headers i need some asap. so if anyone has any that are good for a 5.4 swap and are just laying around i will be more than happy to take them your your hands hint hint. i have some mac longtubes but they were enough trouble with the 4.6 engine. plus they have to be modified for the 5.4.

*r3dn3ck* · 04-08-2008, 09:00 AM

Think I have some OE logs laying around. If you want them they're yours for the cost of the ride.