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How much you planning on putting down? between 600-700?
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Join Date: Mar 2006
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if the motor makes 325hp N/A and you add a blower it takes 14.7 psi (1 bar) to basically double power, so 325 on motor @ 14#-18% drivetrain loss should net 495hp, so 16# should be 580hp...in a perfect world... right where i wanna be |
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i don't know what mine will make but so far i have the .020" forged pistons, PI heads with comp cams, electric water pump, and all the bolt ons. so anyone what to gues what it will make after a tune? i'd like to say 300hp and close to 375tq to the wheels. but thats a guess.
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Join Date: Nov 2005
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He's got cams too which will make a big difference in power. Depending on the cams that you selected I'm predicting 300-315hp and 375tq. The major thing that holds the 5.4 back is the cams. You just can't fill those deep azz holes with stock duration.
A comp 262Ah should get you right up to around 300. The overbore is going to make cams even more useful since you're upping the quantity of air that needs to come in to fill each cylinder. I've decided to go with flat top slugs that will sit my compression at 11:1. With 262's I'm looking for 325hp and 375-385tq on a .020 overbore. Myillwillinc... did you order your rods? If not now is the time. Send me an email when you get a chance. I PM'd everyone that showed interest with my email and phone number. Gimme a shiznout. |
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Chip... at 14lbs you'll want a good set of blower cams not xe270's...need to minimize overlap, especially with supercharging + nitrous or you'll lose boost out the exhaust. As far as I can tell the 270's are a NA cam.
just a tip. The power at 16psi should land in the 600 zone with tq being considerably higher. You'll want to look seriously at a TKO600 tranny. Add nitrous and you can see 700+hp and axle snapping tq in a hurry. |
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That nitrous is going to act like a water/methanol cooling. A 50 shot of nitrous is going to be a very big power gain. You are talking a 75 shot and I think you will actually see closer to 100 rwhp extra with a blower.
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Join Date: May 2006
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After putting a 351W into a 67 Mustang, a combo not done in Dearborne, I have to say that would not put another tall deck in a hole not optioned by the factory again. What a pain in the arse that was!! I'll squeeze mine, or do a stroker kit first!!
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really... what kind of problems did you have with that?
I don't know if you've read through much of the thread but, we've seen several people finish and apart from the little things like spreading the exhaust and the hood clearance we've really seen surprisingly simple swap notes. myillwillinc and Saleen S330 haven't complained at all about their swap experiences. |
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Join Date: Mar 2006
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with big cams you have either good tune and partially rough idle or good idle and partially good tune. i friend just done that with his combo: SHM 302 stroker, patriot stage 3 heads, custom grind synder .591 lift cams, p-51 intake, d1sc @ 12 #'s. it was a pain to tune it......(Jim D'Amore of JDM Engineering) tuned it |
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Just wondering when everyone gets there blocks...Is one 5.4 better to get then another? Does it matter if i get one out of a 1997 Ford Van or a 2002 Ford F250 or a 2004 Lincoln Navigator? Any specific Vin's on the blocks i should look for or watch out for?
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we've covered this a few times but we'll do it once more just for you. Later is better as they added some extra meat to the block in the later production years to combat various types of wear and tear. It still doesn't really matter though. There's never been a report I've heard where the block was too weak. A 97 is fine... a 2003 is even better. A 2004 needs to have come from a navigator only as the rest of them are now 3V and they mount differently from what I understand.
I'm using a 00 block. Check out www.car-part.com. You can pick up a block for 150-300 easy. Or just call your local salvage yard. Sean Hyland Motorsport carries a complete line of Ford factory parts for 4.6 and 5.4L engines including front covers and bolts and gaskets and all that little stuff. Call em up for a catalog. I've got one in front of me and it's been pretty useful in identifying parts that I need and about how much they'll cost. |
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I have read that the 2002 and newer motors are better because the 2001 and older motors had some kind of vibration or something like that but after 2001 they added more to the block to fix the problem. Not exactly sure what the problem was though.
I got my motor from a mechanics shop that had one sitting there that was supposed to be a core but was never picked up and got it for $100, the bottom end seized up but there are no holes in the block so i bought it. Still working on building it though. So if you have any friends that are mechanics let them know what you are trying to do and maybe they have one sitting in there shop. That's what i did.
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Damn r3dn3ck you beat me to it.
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damn it feels good to be a postin' gangsta... a real gangsta azz blah blah blah..
yeah. I'm pretty quick on the trigger and I type 80wpm so it's hard to beat me. |
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I would have to say the restriction are, from lowest to highest is the intake, cams, then heads. If anything i would buy heads first and intake last. With the mods that i had to do to make the 5.4 work, cake. Minimal things and totally worth the TQ. |
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