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TUFF 4.6 08-07-2009 12:21 PM

Trick Flow Cams
 
Is anyone running these cams or have any input on them? Thanks Bubba

spike_africa 08-08-2009 05:59 AM

Did they finally release cams for the 2v?

White04GT 08-08-2009 07:23 AM

(stage 1) 1,500-5,000- 226/230 dur@ .50, .550/.550 lift

(stage 2) 1,800-6,500 - 234/234 dur @.50 .580/.580 lift

That is the spec's I copied off another post on a different forum. They are saying the stage 2 are more of FI cam I believe I read the LSA is around 114. The cams are designed to work with there heads. You can't use them with stock heads without notching them.

whitestang04 08-08-2009 07:40 AM

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/TFS-51802001/
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/TFS-51802002/
Not a bad price at $450 for the pair.

spike_africa 08-08-2009 06:13 PM

What I had no idea they had finally released the cam's. Thats cool I am gonna check them out.

PureStang 08-08-2009 07:48 PM

i cannot wait to get their head/cam combo. i plan on doing this sometime next semester if i make enough money during school

TUFF 4.6 08-08-2009 08:11 PM

I really like thier stage 2 specs. but I am worried about the PVC. I dont want to have to flycut the pistons. A couple of people have said that they will work and some have said no. .550 lift is not a problem but .580 maybe.

I have heard nothing but good about the new heads so I dont see why thier cams wouldnt be any different. Might wait a couple of months and keep checking on the net for more updates.

White04GT 08-08-2009 09:04 PM

I don't see why you would have any problems running them. The stage 2 are very close to Comp's XE270AH: 234/238 & .550 @ 113LSA, and they are almost identical to Crower Stg 2 PI SC cam: 234/234 .581/.581 @ 114 LSA.

bassman97 08-09-2009 01:50 PM


Originally Posted by TUFF 4.6 (Post 423173)
I really like thier stage 2 specs. but I am worried about the PVC. I dont want to have to flycut the pistons. A couple of people have said that they will work and some have said no. .550 lift is not a problem but .580 maybe.

I have heard nothing but good about the new heads so I dont see why thier cams wouldnt be any different. Might wait a couple of months and keep checking on the net for more updates.

Lift isn't the problem for PTV, it's duration. Regardless, PTV clearance should be checked when a cam is done anyway, just to be sure.

TUFF 4.6 08-17-2009 07:04 PM

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Well I bite the bullet and got a set of the Stage 2 cams with the spring upgrade.
My engine youst to like like this
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Now it looks like this
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I have a PP Typhoon Intake on the car, I pulled it off to port and polish it for a little more air flow
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I have been die grinding on it for two days
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I should have all the grinding done tomorrow and start with the valve springs.
Hopefully it will be worth all the effort.

spike_africa 08-17-2009 07:54 PM

Have any problems with that manifold yet? I heard of many nitrous guys blowing them out. And the power numbers were never very good from what I saw.

And I must give you a thumbs up for painting the block Ford Blue. I have yet to see a 2v block painted Ford Blue.

TUFF 4.6 08-17-2009 08:07 PM

I think the intake got a bad rep. being made in China. I noticed a big difference the car after it was on the car. Its been on there for three years. There was plenty of meat left on the intake for porting. The intake should have been ported before I put it on but I was lazy. I have run 3 bolltles of nitrous tho it and have had no problems yet. The numbers I seen were about 24 to 27 hp.

Leonide 08-18-2009 12:07 AM

makes me want to bite the bullet and get those heads!

TUFF 4.6 08-22-2009 04:51 PM

Well after grinding on the intake for 3 full days and fighting them sumbitchin valve springs and double lock keepers, I have both cams in and chains on. Got everything else clean and with any luck, it might run tomorrow.

I will post up a vid when done.

TUFF 4.6 08-27-2009 02:24 PM

Finally got my pig running after a couple of small leaks. It sounds and shakes great to me. Heres a link
http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/l...h_MOV00385.jpg
I have to say that is one of the biggest pain in ass jobs I have ever done but it was well worth it.

Switch 08-27-2009 02:43 PM

Absolutely gorgeous engine bay.

GraphicNature 08-28-2009 05:32 AM


Originally Posted by TUFF 4.6 (Post 425992)
Finally got my pig running after a couple of small leaks. It sounds and shakes great to me. Heres a link http://s290.photobucket.com/albums/l...t=MOV00385.flv

I have to say that is one of the biggest pain in ass jobs I have ever done but it was well worth it.

When are you going for a dyno run / tune? Id like to know exactly how those cams do. Ive been looking at buying them myself.

spike_africa 08-28-2009 05:41 AM

Sounds good, now we just want to see what kinda power they make :salook:

r3dn3ck 08-28-2009 07:47 AM

I thought I was the only one obsessive enough to re-do all the plumbing in AN and braided hose. Well done. There's about 2grand in fittings in there.

You could try taping off the mating surface of the heads this time and finishing the rattle-can painting of the block.

I'm also confused... why are the feed lines for your fuel rails going directly into that aux tank where the battery used to be? Or am I missing the important part of that view?

bossman302 08-28-2009 10:56 AM

Sounds really good. Making me miss my car. I wish it wasn't apart right now.

j_gutta870 08-28-2009 11:13 AM

Thats hot...

TUFF 4.6 08-28-2009 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by r3dn3ck (Post 426152)
I thought I was the only one obsessive enough to re-do all the plumbing in AN and braided hose. Well done. There's about 2grand in fittings in there.

You could try taping off the mating surface of the heads this time and finishing the rattle-can painting of the block.

I'm also confused... why are the feed lines for your fuel rails going directly into that aux tank where the battery used to be? Or am I missing the important part of that view?

R3d you are the only one that has ever ask that question. Its a Canton supercharger tank that I modded into a modern day "cool can". I cut the bottom out and wound 12 ft of 1/2 alun. tubing around a quart paint can and plumbed up with tube fittings and bulkhead fittings. pack it with ice and it makes a world of difference on really hot days. I put a 1/4" ball drain in the lower corner to drain it. Works like a charm.

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TUFF 4.6 08-28-2009 02:48 PM

Thanks for all the coments guys. As for the tune question, we only have 2 tuners in the Richmond area. Depending on who you talk to one of them aint worth a shit and the other one is worse. All the other tuners are 100 miles north, south, and east. I would like to take it to Fastlane Motorsprorts down in Benson N.C. Its got a Preditor 93 tune on it now. Might have to put it on a trailer and take it down there, hopefully in the next couple of weeks.

r3dn3ck 08-28-2009 03:39 PM

that's really inventive. Good job. Never thought of cooling the fuel like that.

GraphicNature 09-14-2009 04:31 PM

Any developments?

TUFF 4.6 09-14-2009 07:21 PM


Originally Posted by GraphicNature (Post 429124)
Any developments?

Sorry but I have'nt had it tuned yet. I have driven it about 40 miles and have noticed somethings about the car with these cams vs the stock ones.

1) The rpm range has moved up to about 4000 vs 3000, where the motor starts to come alive Big Time!!!. The Trick Flows made a HUGE difference in power at 4000 rpm's and continues to pull hard up to 6000 where I let off of it.

2) I lost some bottom end torque, but with the 410 gears its only a small lost. I think 430's would be a perfect gear with these cams. I would not even try these cams without at least 373's. I have a 5 speed, with an auto you might want to call Trick Flow and find out how much stall you would need. I would think maybe 2500 or 3000.

3) I had to raise my idle speed about 200 rpms in order to get it to idle. A tune would problable take care of this and may not have been needed.

4) The sound and shake of the car is awesome.

5) I gauge everything by how the car drives and feels. I dont have any proof with numbers, but these things were worth every cent! and made a HUGE difference in the Butt-o-meter. I will post up a sheet when I get it tuned.

These things PULL HARD !!!!!!

WaterDR 09-14-2009 09:00 PM

The amount of work you have done is incredible! I will definately be getting these heads over the winter to go with my stage 2 cams.

Incidently, my tuner setup my idle to run around 950 rpms. It will idle at 600, but it really rough and dies a lot.

TUFF 4.6 09-15-2009 05:22 AM


Originally Posted by WaterDR (Post 429221)
The amount of work you have done is incredible! I will definately be getting these heads over the winter to go with my stage 2 cams.

Incidently, my tuner setup my idle to run around 950 rpms. It will idle at 600, but it really rough and dies a lot.

Thanks Dr. yea thats where mine is now, I think the handhelt said 926 rpms.
I want a set of those heads too!!!

spike_africa 09-15-2009 07:21 AM

You and waterdr are doing some work with the 2v.

r3dn3ck 09-15-2009 07:42 AM

fix the injector delay so it shoots the gas on a closed intake valve and your idle will clean up a little and you can set it back down to about 700. Stage 2 cams always seem to need that done. Mine did.


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