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lazyhomie1908 01-19-2009 09:16 PM

Spark Plugs
 
HEy guys I have Ngk Iridium plugs on my 2000 mustang gt. Well mechanic was talking to me today and told I should swap those out to the stock motorcrafts. The plugs are fairly new. Any recommendations or tips? Its not blown or supercharged. Its got full bolts ons and diablo tune with some spark advance but no pinging or detonation. If I should change them to motorcraft why would this be better? THanks:D

spike_africa 01-20-2009 05:48 AM

NO need to change the plugs you have unless they are bad, though I would of gone with the much cheaper TR55's then those over hyped Iridium plugs, but they work so do not throw money out the window.

lazyhomie1908 01-20-2009 11:18 AM

I got the motorcraft spark plugs for free from a friend so they are just sitting in the garage but my iridium plugs are fairly new nothing wrong with them.

r3dn3ck 01-20-2009 11:28 AM

keep em... no reason to change.

Lazerred6 01-20-2009 11:31 AM

spark plugs are spark plugs special ones won't help any

lazyhomie1908 01-22-2009 11:26 AM

Well I knew they wont help just wondering about the temp ranges if it mattered any someone told me ngks are cooler in temperature.

Lazerred6 01-22-2009 11:35 AM

Cooler sparks are for nitrous and boost figure out what your oem sparks are and get them or keep the ones you have if they are the right temp I'm not sure what that temp is though

bassman97 01-23-2009 03:52 AM

If you got stock equivalent plugs, then they are neither hotter or colder. Now, it is true that the temperature ranges associated w/ Japanese plugs are usually cooler than the American counterparts (due in part over °F and °C) but the difference is so small and since the range is still right, it's negligible.

lazyhomie1908 01-23-2009 09:26 PM

ok so pretty much those NGK wouldn't cause my car to run any different...? They are still new and I just don't want to go through the trouble of taking them out if it won't make any difference that I am running ngk instead of motorcraft.

mpt_1962 01-24-2009 01:09 AM

you should be at or around a .53-.55 gap....am i right or wrong guys? I cant remember from the old gt...

spike_africa 01-24-2009 07:53 AM

I only run NGK plugs and your car will be fine with those in there. Just save the other plugs for when you need to change plugs again and you get a free plug change.

lazyhomie1908 01-25-2009 06:13 PM

Alright thanks spike and everyone else got exactly what I needed to know.

mpt_1962 02-02-2009 12:24 AM

what about for a supercharged, high boost, cobra?...not to steal the thread, but figured why post another, plus everyone already subscribed can get a N/A and supercharged point of view.

mpt_1962 02-02-2009 12:26 AM

i know 1-2 ranges colder, but what gap and brand?

spike_africa 02-02-2009 08:21 AM

NGK TR6 plugs are what you would want for your basic cobra up till you are over 550rwhp then you might want to swap to a 2 step colder plug.

mpt_1962 02-02-2009 09:14 AM

what about the gap? thanks for the above info though!

stanger00 02-02-2009 09:26 AM


Originally Posted by mpt_1962 (Post 381001)
what about the gap? thanks for the above info though!

find out who tuned the car...they probably put in the widest gap before spark blow out. majority of blown cars i seen usually wear a gap of .035. If the car breaks up under load in the upper rpms close the gap a lil bit.

everyone runs TR6's which is 1 step cold. i run NGK BR7EF's which are 2 steps cold and they are gapped to .035 and i change them every 2 oil changes, i beat on the car quite often.

mpt_1962 02-02-2009 09:36 AM

so the gap is partially determined by the tune? So when i get a new dyno tune let him know what i have them gapped to and he can adapt it to the gap?

stanger00 02-02-2009 09:44 AM


Originally Posted by mpt_1962 (Post 381006)
so the gap is partially determined by the tune? So when i get a new dyno tune let him know what i have them gapped to and he can adapt it to the gap?

the person who tunes the car usually knows what works best for them i dont tune cars so i dont know what the gap does to a tune. i was just suggesting a typical gap for a supercharged app. i just know that if a gap is too wide you will get blow out and your car will have mulitple miss fires in teh upper rpms...its like the car is running out of gas. i know this because my plugs were fouled from my mom driving the car with a horrible exhaust leak. i cleaned them up while i waited for new ones to be shipped to me and the gaps opened up to .047 on the right bank and .040 on the left bank. yeah, my car wasnt taken care of while i didnt drive it for 18 months.

mpt_1962 02-02-2009 09:52 AM

ok thank you...ill replace them AT the tuners shop...then i can get his tuning knowledge in the gap too. thanks for the help.

03gtmustang 02-02-2009 10:12 AM

You shouldnt change plugs when the engine is hot.

mpt_1962 02-02-2009 10:24 AM

so you suggest going with a 35 gap and just letting him now thats what i gapped them at?

bassman97 02-04-2009 07:30 AM

The gap isn't determined by the tune, it's determined by cylinder pressures. Also, don't change the plugs while your engine is hot, it's bad for the Aluminum threads in the head. Instead, run a cap on the safe side (not sure what a good gap is F/I) and call it a day. You are not going to gain a lot by running the ideal gap. However, if you want those extra ponies, just index your plugs instead.

spike_africa 02-04-2009 04:45 PM

From what I have in my manuals it says .050" for 03-04 Cobra, but that's stock and thats a really big gap. I would run them at .040" gap or even .035" gap. On my lowly sprayed 2v I run them at .035" gap. No spark blow out at 380rwhp here.

mpt_1962 02-04-2009 09:24 PM

thats what i was averaging in different posts i've read. .33-.35....thanks for the help guys.


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