Nitrous or LT headers

Christian's02GT · 05-27-2005, 05:44 AM

Have the money for either nitrous or LT headers. Not sure which one to get. I also have a BBK short x-pipe no cats in my garage to go with the headers. If nitrous is the way which is the best sytem out there for RW horse power? I was thinking either NX or Venom. What about the Zex system? Help please.
Other mods are a BBK cold air intake, 70mm TB, Trick Flow plenum, March underdrive pullies, Diablo Preadtor, and Flow Master CB exhaust.

cobra4123 · 05-27-2005, 05:59 AM

nitrous will give you more power for sure.

*03gtmustang* · 05-27-2005, 07:16 AM

How much money do you have? Nitrous isnt cheap when hooked up the right way. Not sure about the Venom stuff, but for NX you need the EFI kit, genx2, window switch, new plugs, possibly new fuel pump, and a tune... Now you could always just get the EFI kit and be able to spray, but I dont recommend that.

Christian's02GT · 05-27-2005, 07:23 AM

Around $700.00, not sure if that is enough. I'm new to the nitrous scene. What is a window switch? Also would i need a new fuel pump with a 75-100 shot? I don't want to go any higher than that until I change some internals.

*03gtmustang* · 05-27-2005, 11:14 AM

$700 is not near enough to run it the right way. Id just get the headers.

Christian's02GT · 05-27-2005, 11:16 AM

How much would it take and what is the right way? Thanks

*4.6 Love* · 05-27-2005, 11:23 AM

You can buy new kit of ebay for about $500 dollar and they come with intallation instructions that anyone with average intelligence can do it! I personally got my edelbrock nitrous kit for $525 of a buddy of mines, it came with all safe equipment and accessories, and it doesn't require a tune unless I want to up the shot! Some kits are plug and play, just depends what you buy! So yeah, in my opinion $700 is more than enough to get a good nitrous kit hooked up right! I've had mines almost 2 yrs now, with no problems! :toothy1:

dom · 05-27-2005, 12:46 PM

you need over 1000 to run nitrous correctly. the nx wet kit is 500+. and the upgrade gen2 kit is around 400 i believe. also, your gonna be filing the bottle, getting a tune (500+$$) and its a very careful substance to use for a street car. get the headers. youll get power and a new sound

Christian's02GT · 05-27-2005, 12:49 PM

Thanks for all the help. Is NX the way to go? What about Venom or Zex?

dom · 05-27-2005, 01:06 PM

if you go nitrous. i would go nx.

*4.6 Love* · 05-27-2005, 01:08 PM

I guess no one has seen the new eldelbrock nitrous kits!

:sad7:

dom · 05-27-2005, 01:14 PM

havent seen them. but maybe someone else has i dont deal with nitrous much

*4.6 Love* · 05-27-2005, 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dom

havent seen them. but maybe someone else has i dont deal with nitrous much

I've hand mines for almos 2 yrs without a tune and its help up good with no problems! :icon_chee

dom · 05-27-2005, 01:17 PM

well good. but for reliablitity i would get a tune. some people are luckier than others and no two cars react the same, especially when it comes to forced induction. how much nitrous are you running by the way?

*03gtmustang* · 05-27-2005, 01:30 PM

I dont see why people would run nitrous without a tune, or even putting the car on the dyno to check a/f and stuff. Its just like any other power adder... I gained about 155rwhp 287rwtq from my NX 100 shot, so Id say go with NX.

*4.6 Love* · 05-27-2005, 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dom

well good. but for reliablitity i would get a tune. some people are luckier than others and no two cars react the same, especially when it comes to forced induction. how much nitrous are you running by the way?

75 shot!

tripleblack · 05-27-2005, 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Christian's02GT

Have the money for either nitrous or LT headers. Not sure which one to get. I also have a BBK short x-pipe no cats in my garage to go with the headers. If nitrous is the way which is the best sytem out there for RW horse power? I was thinking either NX or Venom. What about the Zex system? Help please.
Other mods are a BBK cold air intake, 70mm TB, Trick Flow plenum, March underdrive pullies, Diablo Preadtor, and Flow Master CB exhaust.

Add the headers and x-pipe. You can always add the nitrous later, and it will only be improved by the free-flowing exhaust. Besides, maybe by then you'll have even MORE mustang-allocated funds, and we can all help you spend them on a supercharger! (Hey, why not plan for success?)

Having witnessed a number of nitrous explosions, including one that propelled the car's carburetor through the hood (making quite a hole in process), I recommend that you include expert dyno tuning time (and not just a few pulls, either) in your estimate. Also keep in mind that mods like the exhaust may only add 20 hp or so, but those hp are ALWAYS with you, not only when you have a full bottle turned on.

tripleblack

dom · 05-27-2005, 02:00 PM

i agree. go long tubes. if you decide on the nitrous, however i strongly suggest the nx wet kit, the gen2 upgrade package, and a custom dyno tune. good luck with your decision

Samsstang · 05-31-2005, 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4.6 Love

I've hand mines for almos 2 yrs without a tune and its help up good with no problems! :icon_chee

Same here! Ive had mine for 5+ years running an 80 shot without a tune stock fuel pump and injectors (Venom syst. VCN 1000) Blake (MTS#1customer) also has this system, if you plan on runnin something bigger 100+ then I agree a tune is definetly the way to go, also a bigger fuel pump, bottle warmer, colder plugs etc;. Most systems these days are "plug n play" if you follow there directions cautiously you should have no problems! plus you cant beat the power for the money? or should I say the Torque! but again LTs are a good investment but nowhere close to the gains!

Christian's02GT · 05-31-2005, 08:44 AM

I was just reading MT's thread and had a question. It said you need to splice into one of the O2 sensors. What if you don't have them hooked up and you have mil elimnators or a tuner that takes care of that. Will taht effect anything?

csledd · 06-01-2005, 06:18 AM

I bought the SLP Creamic long tube headers from here for $684 bucks shipped so you have enough

Samsstang · 06-01-2005, 06:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Christian's02GT

I was just reading MT's thread and had a question. It said you need to splice into one of the O2 sensors. What if you don't have them hooked up and you have mil elimnators or a tuner that takes care of that. Will taht effect anything?

I know that with off road pipes they still get connected to the front sensors! I was not aware of eliminating the sensors completely

from what I understand the mil eliminators just trick the comp. when you have an O/R X or H-pipe :icon_scra

*madmatt* · 06-01-2005, 07:33 AM

Yea, the mils are only for the back o2 sensors. If you dont have the front ones in either...I would hope your car was showing a CEL ...

csledd · 06-01-2005, 03:33 PM

As far as I've understood it.. if you have LTs and a O/R pipe, the back ones no longer matter.. but they will throw a code because they sense the absense of your cats. The front o2 sensors are important because they monitor exhaust flow/temperatures stuff like that. You want to get a good tune on your front sensors and have the back ones tuned out normally.

05-27-2005, 05:44 AM	#1 (permalink)
Christian's02GT Junior Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 6	Nitrous or LT headers Have the money for either nitrous or LT headers. Not sure which one to get. I also have a BBK short x-pipe no cats in my garage to go with the headers. If nitrous is the way which is the best sytem out there for RW horse power? I was thinking either NX or Venom. What about the Zex system? Help please. Other mods are a BBK cold air intake, 70mm TB, Trick Flow plenum, March underdrive pullies, Diablo Preadtor, and Flow Master CB exhaust.

05-27-2005, 05:59 AM	#2 (permalink)
cobra4123 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 826	nitrous will give you more power for sure. __________________ Vote for SkylerSVT on Stangette.com...... Just do it........... http://www.mustangtuningforums.com/s...ead.php?t=6045

05-27-2005, 07:16 AM	#3 (permalink)
03gtmustang Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Northern Va Posts: 3,247	How much money do you have? Nitrous isnt cheap when hooked up the right way. Not sure about the Venom stuff, but for NX you need the EFI kit, genx2, window switch, new plugs, possibly new fuel pump, and a tune... Now you could always just get the EFI kit and be able to spray, but I dont recommend that. __________________ D&D Auto Detailing -Dan

05-27-2005, 11:14 AM	#5 (permalink)
03gtmustang Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Northern Va Posts: 3,247	$700 is not near enough to run it the right way. Id just get the headers. __________________ D&D Auto Detailing -Dan

05-27-2005, 11:23 AM	#7 (permalink)
4.6 Love Super Moderator Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Mexico Posts: 6,154	You can buy new kit of ebay for about $500 dollar and they come with intallation instructions that anyone with average intelligence can do it! I personally got my edelbrock nitrous kit for $525 of a buddy of mines, it came with all safe equipment and accessories, and it doesn't require a tune unless I want to up the shot! Some kits are plug and play, just depends what you buy! So yeah, in my opinion $700 is more than enough to get a good nitrous kit hooked up right! I've had mines almost 2 yrs now, with no problems! :toothy1: __________________ Go Cowboys! X pipe and flows

05-27-2005, 07:23 AM	#4 (permalink)
Christian's02GT Junior Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 6	Around $700.00, not sure if that is enough. I'm new to the nitrous scene. What is a window switch? Also would i need a new fuel pump with a 75-100 shot? I don't want to go any higher than that until I change some internals.

05-27-2005, 11:16 AM	#6 (permalink)
Christian's02GT Junior Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 6	How much would it take and what is the right way? Thanks

05-27-2005, 12:46 PM	#8 (permalink)
dom whos gonna ban me next? Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: baltimore, MD Posts: 1,268	you need over 1000 to run nitrous correctly. the nx wet kit is 500+. and the upgrade gen2 kit is around 400 i believe. also, your gonna be filing the bottle, getting a tune (500+$$) and its a very careful substance to use for a street car. get the headers. youll get power and a new sound __________________ 2007 explorer limited procharged 2002gt sold new project: 427w c4 9" fox

05-27-2005, 12:49 PM	#9 (permalink)
Christian's02GT Junior Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 6	Thanks for all the help. Is NX the way to go? What about Venom or Zex?

05-27-2005, 01:06 PM	#10 (permalink)
dom whos gonna ban me next? Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: baltimore, MD Posts: 1,268	if you go nitrous. i would go nx. __________________ 2007 explorer limited procharged 2002gt sold new project: 427w c4 9" fox

05-27-2005, 01:08 PM	#11 (permalink)
4.6 Love Super Moderator Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Mexico Posts: 6,154	I guess no one has seen the new eldelbrock nitrous kits! :sad7: __________________ Go Cowboys! X pipe and flows

05-27-2005, 01:14 PM	#12 (permalink)
dom whos gonna ban me next? Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: baltimore, MD Posts: 1,268	havent seen them. but maybe someone else has i dont deal with nitrous much __________________ 2007 explorer limited procharged 2002gt sold new project: 427w c4 9" fox

05-27-2005, 01:17 PM	#14 (permalink)
dom whos gonna ban me next? Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: baltimore, MD Posts: 1,268	well good. but for reliablitity i would get a tune. some people are luckier than others and no two cars react the same, especially when it comes to forced induction. how much nitrous are you running by the way? __________________ 2007 explorer limited procharged 2002gt sold new project: 427w c4 9" fox

05-27-2005, 01:30 PM	#15 (permalink)
03gtmustang Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Northern Va Posts: 3,247	I dont see why people would run nitrous without a tune, or even putting the car on the dyno to check a/f and stuff. Its just like any other power adder... I gained about 155rwhp 287rwtq from my NX 100 shot, so Id say go with NX. __________________ D&D Auto Detailing -Dan

05-27-2005, 02:00 PM	#18 (permalink)
dom whos gonna ban me next? Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: baltimore, MD Posts: 1,268	i agree. go long tubes. if you decide on the nitrous, however i strongly suggest the nx wet kit, the gen2 upgrade package, and a custom dyno tune. good luck with your decision __________________ 2007 explorer limited procharged 2002gt sold new project: 427w c4 9" fox

05-31-2005, 08:44 AM	#20 (permalink)
Christian's02GT Junior Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 6	I was just reading MT's thread and had a question. It said you need to splice into one of the O2 sensors. What if you don't have them hooked up and you have mil elimnators or a tuner that takes care of that. Will taht effect anything?

06-01-2005, 06:18 AM	#21 (permalink)
csledd DSG!!! Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Paducah, KY Posts: 3,074	I bought the SLP Creamic long tube headers from here for $684 bucks shipped so you have enough __________________ CAP DSG Registry 2003 Mustang GT - daily driven check out my cardomain for more info 296 rwhp / 310 rwtq Money spent @ AM: $4623.20 1984 Mustang Hatch - low budget project

06-01-2005, 07:33 AM	#23 (permalink)
madmatt Traitor...lol Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Lexington, SC Posts: 7,929	Yea, the mils are only for the back o2 sensors. If you dont have the front ones in either...I would hope your car was showing a CEL ... __________________ RPMPlanets

06-01-2005, 03:33 PM	#24 (permalink)
csledd DSG!!! Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Paducah, KY Posts: 3,074	As far as I've understood it.. if you have LTs and a O/R pipe, the back ones no longer matter.. but they will throw a code because they sense the absense of your cats. The front o2 sensors are important because they monitor exhaust flow/temperatures stuff like that. You want to get a good tune on your front sensors and have the back ones tuned out normally. __________________ CAP DSG Registry 2003 Mustang GT - daily driven check out my cardomain for more info 296 rwhp / 310 rwtq Money spent @ AM: $4623.20 1984 Mustang Hatch - low budget project

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