Headers

Slver00GT · 05-22-2005, 04:05 PM

How hard is it to put a set of long tube headers on yourself ? Or is it not worth the trouble and just be a whole lot eaiser to pay someone to do it ? Oh and this is prolly a stupid question but how do you know if you need to get long tube or shorty ? juss let me know preciate it

WaterDR · 05-22-2005, 05:18 PM

Headers suck to install. It is one of the more difficult jobs. I just spoke with a guy today who works at CJ Pony. He installs them all the time. They allow 8 hours for a job, but probably get done in about 6 and that is experienced people.

LT's have better performance that shorties.

white99gt · 05-23-2005, 07:35 PM

Ive done my own longtubes and a few other sets .If you have tools and a lift ,they can be installed in about 4 hours.no kmember dropping needed..
At home figure a weekend.

Most drop their k members to help install them at home.
Shories are a waste of money but sometimes are your only option in some states.
Ive had longtubes for years but just backed up to new bbks shorties.Im getting tired of the work arounds you have to do with longtubes.Even a simple starter install is a PITA with longtubes.

00steeda · 05-24-2005, 06:15 AM

Put JBA shorties on mine and was a major pain in the ass! I'll try to get you a write up.....

csledd · 05-24-2005, 10:46 AM

Installed my LTs at home, all we had was jackstands so we dropped the k-member, the install is not that bad if you know what you're doing lol.

dom · 05-24-2005, 01:22 PM

i had a lift so i didnt drop the k member. also i was doing trans work so i swapped them on and off within minutes with the trans off. the hard part was tightening the header bolts down when everything on the car is in place(trans bolted up) . if i were you i would pay a shop to do it

crzhrse · 05-25-2005, 01:21 PM

They arn't worth the hassle or the money. If you just want headers to say you have headers then go for it. Aftermarkets don't outflow the stock by enough to neccesitate a change on anything less then a full blown drag car. Spend your money on something else if you really want your money to work for you. I have seen them for a grand or more and there are plenty of better opportunities...unless you have exhausted them all already.

dom · 05-25-2005, 01:34 PM

long tubes dont improve over stock? unless a full blown drag car ? please define a full blown drag car. hahahhhahaahahaha

white99gt · 05-25-2005, 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crzhrse

They arn't worth the hassle or the money. If you just want headers to say you have headers then go for it. Aftermarkets don't outflow the stock by enough to neccesitate a change on anything less then a full blown drag car. Spend your money on something else if you really want your money to work for you.

Shorties are not worth anything(maybe 1~3rwhp).But longtubes have PROVEN gains of 13+ rwhp gains.

You have no clue on what makes power on a 4.6,if you say stock manifolds are just as good as headers.

csledd · 05-25-2005, 07:20 PM

if you're saying LTs dont make a difference than I LAUGH IN YOUR FACE SIR!

05-22-2005, 04:05 PM	#1 (permalink)
Slver00GT Junior Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 27	Headers How hard is it to put a set of long tube headers on yourself ? Or is it not worth the trouble and just be a whole lot eaiser to pay someone to do it ? Oh and this is prolly a stupid question but how do you know if you need to get long tube or shorty ? juss let me know preciate it

05-22-2005, 05:18 PM	#2 (permalink)
WaterDR Administrator Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 6,370	Headers suck to install. It is one of the more difficult jobs. I just spoke with a guy today who works at CJ Pony. He installs them all the time. They allow 8 hours for a job, but probably get done in about 6 and that is experienced people. LT's have better performance that shorties. __________________ Black 2000 GT Vert: Novi-2000 with Intercooler (375rwhp @ 9 psi); Tune by Kauffmans; Roush 380R Body kit; Steeda Subframes; Steeda Strut Tower Support; Deep Dish Bullets; FRPP 4:10's; SCT 4 Position Chip with four custom tunes; Steeda CAI; C&L Pleum; BBK 75 TB; SLP Loudmouth; SLP Catted X-Pipe; Bullitt Suspension; UPR Conrol Arms; Focus Fuel Pump My Car My Email

05-23-2005, 07:35 PM	#3 (permalink)
white99gt 600+rwhp club Join Date: May 2005 Location: atlanta,ga Posts: 60	Ive done my own longtubes and a few other sets .If you have tools and a lift ,they can be installed in about 4 hours.no kmember dropping needed.. At home figure a weekend. Most drop their k members to help install them at home. Shories are a waste of money but sometimes are your only option in some states. Ive had longtubes for years but just backed up to new bbks shorties.Im getting tired of the work arounds you have to do with longtubes.Even a simple starter install is a PITA with longtubes. __________________ 621rwhp~504rwtq <----Old vortech T trim combo 2V 2.2 Kenne bell <---present combo 549rwhp~491rwtq SAE @15psi 560rwhp~490rwtq STD @15psi My mods

05-24-2005, 06:15 AM	#4 (permalink)
00steeda Panty DropR Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 26	Put JBA shorties on mine and was a major pain in the ass! I'll try to get you a write up..... __________________ WWW.STEEDAS.COM

05-24-2005, 10:46 AM	#5 (permalink)
csledd DSG!!! Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Paducah, KY Posts: 3,074	Installed my LTs at home, all we had was jackstands so we dropped the k-member, the install is not that bad if you know what you're doing lol. __________________ CAP DSG Registry 2003 Mustang GT - daily driven check out my cardomain for more info 296 rwhp / 310 rwtq Money spent @ AM: $4623.20 1984 Mustang Hatch - low budget project

05-24-2005, 01:22 PM	#6 (permalink)
dom whos gonna ban me next? Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: baltimore, MD Posts: 1,268	i had a lift so i didnt drop the k member. also i was doing trans work so i swapped them on and off within minutes with the trans off. the hard part was tightening the header bolts down when everything on the car is in place(trans bolted up) . if i were you i would pay a shop to do it __________________ 2007 explorer limited procharged 2002gt sold new project: 427w c4 9" fox

05-25-2005, 01:21 PM	#7 (permalink)
crzhrse Venomous Join Date: May 2005 Location: New Hampshire Posts: 128	Blah They arn't worth the hassle or the money. If you just want headers to say you have headers then go for it. Aftermarkets don't outflow the stock by enough to neccesitate a change on anything less then a full blown drag car. Spend your money on something else if you really want your money to work for you. I have seen them for a grand or more and there are plenty of better opportunities...unless you have exhausted them all already.

05-25-2005, 01:34 PM	#8 (permalink)
dom whos gonna ban me next? Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: baltimore, MD Posts: 1,268	long tubes dont improve over stock? unless a full blown drag car ? please define a full blown drag car. hahahhhahaahahaha __________________ 2007 explorer limited procharged 2002gt sold new project: 427w c4 9" fox

05-25-2005, 07:20 PM	#10 (permalink)
csledd DSG!!! Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Paducah, KY Posts: 3,074	if you're saying LTs dont make a difference than I LAUGH IN YOUR FACE SIR! __________________ CAP DSG Registry 2003 Mustang GT - daily driven check out my cardomain for more info 296 rwhp / 310 rwtq Money spent @ AM: $4623.20 1984 Mustang Hatch - low budget project

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