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zigzaggthefag321 04-29-2007 03:31 PM

heard anything about this?
 
Trick Flow intake for 4.6

http://www.trickflow.com/product/man...i_51800002.asp

r3dn3ck 04-29-2007 09:50 PM

another small plenum long runner intake. If they'd shorten the runners a bit and open up the plenum then it'd be more useful on cars that it's worth a tinkers damn on anyway. Stock to mild bolt on cars will get nothing, cammed and more serious engines will see modest gains. A MUCH bigger plenum would help but the runners are 12" long... jeebus. I'd like to see one check in at 10ish.

G PURE 260 STANG T 04-30-2007 05:19 AM

when is someone going to come out with an intake that is worth while i mean if there is one out there let me know. wasnt there all that hype for that powerballer intake that you got red? and it wasnt that great in the end?

bassman97 04-30-2007 06:25 AM

The problem is that the stock PI intake is a perfect match for the 4.6. Improving it is very hard to do and it seems that Trick Flow and HPS got part of the pieces. Trick Flow straightened the runners but HPS enlarged the plenum. In the end, you aren't going to get massive gains, except in the area under the curve and for the money, it isn't worth it. My money though is going to be on the Edelbrock intake, if it ever comes out...

r3dn3ck 04-30-2007 08:16 AM


Originally Posted by G PURE 260 STANG T (Post 259542)
when is someone going to come out with an intake that is worth while i mean if there is one out there let me know. wasnt there all that hype for that powerballer intake that you got red? and it wasnt that great in the end?

The hardball'R that I have is a great intake, particularly for my use case. It has a huge plenum and can, like mine has, be heavily ported for even more flow. It's a solution to a couple specific problems. Fragility and plenum size are the biggest among them. The thing seems to really help cars that have had too much cam stuck in em'... like comp xe278's on an otherwise stock motor (You know... stuff people do after being suckered in by hp claims in advertising), and stroker and blower motors as you might expect see nice gains but not magical gains.

And I don't know what you mean by not that great in the end. I don't know of many tests that didn't come out with exactly what was expected of them.


Originally Posted by bassman97 (Post 259550)
The problem is that the stock PI intake is a perfect match for the 4.6. Improving it is very hard to do and it seems that Trick Flow and HPS got part of the pieces. Trick Flow straightened the runners but HPS enlarged the plenum. In the end, you aren't going to get massive gains, except in the area under the curve and for the money, it isn't worth it. My money though is going to be on the Edelbrock intake, if it ever comes out...

You nailed it exactly on the head. Too often we forget that people with Ph D's designed the stock intake to be a perfect match for street biased performance use of the 2v 4.6. They did a great job. We're asking for something a little more than that and that takes R&D. Trick flow nailed what looks like a modified version of the bullit with shorter runners. 12" is still a bit long but maybe it can be tweeked. Who knows.

Edelbrock has one...for carb'd and custom efi. Short runner single plane IIRC. Not terribly useful for most but on a blower or turbo car it'd be neato.

2Eighty1 04-30-2007 08:24 AM


Originally Posted by r3dn3ck (Post 259559)
Edelbrock has one...for carb'd and custom efi. Short runner single plane IIRC. Not terribly useful for most but on a blower or turbo car it'd be neato.

If they ever release it, I'll use that along with a Sullivan hat on my 5.4

The Edelbrock has been "coming soon" for almost 2 years now.

Icefreezen 04-30-2007 10:16 AM

I was in line to get one for a very god price got tired of waiting and came across a bullitt intake that i'm gonna get instead at least it's proven HP

zigzaggthefag321 04-30-2007 03:59 PM

will the Bullitt bolt up with few mods?

r3dn3ck 05-01-2007 08:09 AM

not really.. there's a whole install kit for it. Several irritating details change with the bullit. Nothing major but just a PITA. The Hardball'r and Typhoon both bolt up quick and easy with no changes.

3V2000GT 05-01-2007 10:06 AM

here is the intake that the shop that does all my work developed-
www.loganmotorsports.com

zigzaggthefag321 05-01-2007 05:44 PM

whats the typical gain with the Bullitt intake?

bassman97 05-01-2007 06:42 PM

The same gain as w/ FRPP shorties: not worth the money or hassle.

zigzaggthefag321 05-01-2007 06:51 PM


Originally Posted by bassman97 (Post 259820)
The same gain as w/ FRPP shorties: not worth the money or hassle.

so, like 5-10 hp? damn I thought a Bullitt intake would give more.

Icefreezen 05-01-2007 07:45 PM


Originally Posted by zigzagg321 (Post 259824)
so, like 5-10 hp? damn I thought a Bullitt intake would give more.

With any of these intakes it's all about forced induction. You wanna see some numbers port your heads, cam it, and get some long tubes and you'll see how much it's worth

2Eighty1 05-02-2007 08:49 AM


Originally Posted by Icefreezen (Post 259831)
With any of these intakes it's all about forced induction. You wanna see some numbers port your heads, cam it, and get some long tubes and you'll see how much it's worth

This is true

And although the bullitt intake will give you 5-10 PEAK horsepower.

The power gains down low are in the 20-30 range, it gives you a much better powerband.

bassman97 05-02-2007 10:26 AM

Not with the Bullitt intake. The point of the Bullitt is better top-end power w/o sacraficing low-end. The Bullitt's low-end is the same as a stock PI intake but w/ a better top-end.

2Eighty1 05-02-2007 10:30 AM


Originally Posted by bassman97 (Post 259922)
Not with the Bullitt intake. The point of the Bullitt is better top-end power w/o sacraficing low-end. The Bullitt's low-end is the same as a stock PI intake but w/ a better top-end.

I gained 23 RWHP by 3500 RPM with mine...

Peak gain was 7 RWHP and my peak was a few RPM's higher then the PI

bassman97 05-03-2007 01:44 PM

Is yours supercharged?

2Eighty1 05-03-2007 02:01 PM

No sir.

Just exhaust, intake, and a JLT

bassman97 05-04-2007 08:02 AM

Strange since most of the dyno charts I've seen show only improvement in the upper rpms while the lower stayed the same. Whatever, you see something new everyday...

ex-ricer98gt 05-09-2007 06:06 AM

i read somewhere that bbk is comming out with an intake for the 2v, anyone hear about that?

bassman97 05-09-2007 06:56 AM

It's on their site, due out this summer I believe.


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