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Blue Thunder 10-30-2004 03:03 PM

Supercharger??
 
Hi I was wondering if I wanted to get a supercharger can I leave my stang stock or do I need to add things beforehand so as not to damage my engine I want a long lasting car so what can I do? Stock or need to add mods before?

madmatt 10-30-2004 09:24 PM

Well, with a supercharger installation, you have to realize that at any minute, no matter what tune you have, there is always the possiblility of it breaking something. I mean, come on, 400 hp on a stock block is pushing it. Tune is absolutely MANDATORY and a great tune is even more important. Yes, you can supercharge a stock car, but some people like to do other stuff to help bring out the hp like a new throttle body and plenum and also full exhaust tends to help it a lot. Do a lot of research, and be prepared for the worst but hope for the best.

BabyStang 10-31-2004 06:46 AM

Procharger is one of the best superchargers on the market. They make a complete bolt on system that works good in stock vehicles. Check out their web site for more info. Good luck.
www.procharger.com

spike_africa 10-31-2004 07:14 AM

you do not need a tune to drive a blown car. it is not mandatory at all. ATi or vortec make kits with FMU's so you can drive it on totaly stock cars.

but me i would do a shift kit if it is an auto and use a cooler to keep the tranny alive. also you might want ot get a catback and mid pipe to make it so it breathers well and sounds good to. but you dont really need any of these mods.

Blue02GT 10-31-2004 06:42 PM

RPM's and detination kill engines not horsepower. If you keep your boost down around 6 psi and don't over rev your engine you will be fine. Kenne Bell makes the best set up for a daily driver, twin screw = boost at low rpm's. Vortech makes the best centrifical set up for the street. A tune is mandatory with a blower. The centrifical's are better suited for the track where you run at higher rpm's, the KB's will melt your tires on the street. You can get 360 hp safely, 400 with an intercooler. Start going higher and I would suggest a forged shortblock.

madmatt 10-31-2004 07:18 PM

Your going to tell me spike, that after spending 4000 plus dollars, you are going to drive that thing around on vortechs tune? Well, go ahead, but I hope you have another 4 grand to buy a new forged motor, cause there is NO WAY that vortech can predict how your car is going to run in your weather, and your driving conditions, I dunno, but to me, thats just ignorant.

Blue02GT 10-31-2004 08:10 PM

He speaks the truth. Dyno tune or it will go boom.

spike_africa 10-31-2004 08:55 PM

give me a break. they include a FMU for a reason, you do not need a tune ot drive a blown car. are you telling me with a stock like 2003gt and a basic vortrc kit with fmu nd everything you wouldnt drive it witout a tune? thats just seems weird to me. and why would i need a new motor without a tune? all yo uneed to do is install the kit and use high octane. and have you ever seen the air fuel ratio of a car with a vortec or ATi they run wicked rich because like you said there are alot of different variables for where everyone lives. thats the reason for the FMU.

I bet you guys would also not use nitrous without a tune to huh?....

i'm not picking a fight by the way just stating my opinon.

spike_africa 10-31-2004 08:57 PM

oh and on my f150 i rana 150shot without a tune. motor never broke or anything. and it used it for 3 years. and had every bolt on you cna get. i did break 2 built 4r70w's though. and a set of stock axles.

madmatt 11-01-2004 03:45 AM

Ok well then let me restate...In my opinion, I would NEVER EVER drive a supercharged car ( by drive I mean beat the crap outta it like it was meant to be) without AT LEAST getting the thing on a dyno and checking the A/F ratio. Man there is no telling where that thing is with just an FMU that "supposedly" does the job for you. Im not doubting vortech and their technology but to me its stupid to trust that with my engine where I could easily spend an extra 300 bucks to get it checked out on a dyno. Im not trying to be an ass, but this is just my opinion. Do with your money as you please, but Im going to do everything in my power to protect my investment...

Blue02GT 11-01-2004 06:55 AM

Spike I would not run any power adder without a dyno tune. First I don't play around at the track, I abuse the hell out of my car. I would want to be sure my a/f was good all the way through my rpm's. I know people who don't have dyno tunes who are running without any breakage, I also know one's who have blown the motor because the did not get a tune. That being said I know guy's with tunes who still have blown up, it's up to you but I agree with Matt. If I'm going to layout 4-5k on a good blower kit I'm going to spend the 500 to get it tuned.
Sounds like that truck of your's was pretty mean.

spike_africa 11-01-2004 08:18 AM

well you could say that i have taken a many z28's out with it. and gt's and trans am's etc. it was very fast but the problem was the truck weighted alot and the tranny was made for light duty use. aka the 4r70w. so even with me rebuilding it with beefed up parts it couldnt handle the 150shot and the weight of my truck so i blew 2 built trannys that i made and finaly took everthing off and sold it. now i have the GT.

man i wish i had gotten a lightning too. i mean these mustangs are nice and all but i am deffinetly a truck guy.

madmatt 11-01-2004 01:08 PM

Sounds like a bad truck man, got any pics? What kinda torque were you making with that 150 shot?

spike_africa 11-01-2004 06:36 PM

mine wasnt a dyno queen she was all street and strip.

i did however get her on there one time with a 100shot and only a few bolt ons it made about. 400ft lbs. it was alot more once i had all my mods and a 150shot. like i said it would eat 4r70w's on slicks at the drag strip. damn i miss my truck :(

madmatt 11-01-2004 08:36 PM

Well, save some cash, and make a race truck. Im sure you can find one for cheap too.

spike_africa 11-03-2004 09:37 AM

yeha i would love to find a 99-up reg cab 4.6 or 5.4 truck with auto and flareside bed like my old truck.

i should have keeped the damn thing. too. oh well i guess you learn from your misstakes huh.

04SVTDRIVER 11-22-2004 12:13 AM

ATI kits are designed for stock motors however if you are going to spend that kind of money I think IMO that it's a $300 bucks well spent for peace of mind to get a good solid tune not to mention maybe some extra untapped ponies


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