Hum...to blow or not

WaterDR · 01-15-2006, 02:25 PM

We all know blowers are fun, but what about cams and heads? You know, old school.

I am gonna do something more serious to this car one way or the other and I think cams and heads would be a blast too.

I fyou have cams and heads on your car, please pipe up. I want to hear from you especially if it is a 99+

Icefreezen · 01-15-2006, 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MT's#1Customer!

We all know blowers are fun, but what about cams and heads? You know, old school.

I am gonna do something more serious to this car one way or the other and I think cams and heads would be a blast too.

I fyou have cams and heads on your car, please pipe up. I want to hear from you especially if it is a 99+

I'm with you heads and cams or all the better get a new built motor from miles per hour

shad0ws · 01-15-2006, 02:34 PM

Just remember that once you do this it's going to be a permanent N/A car unless you have the money to buy a new motor. I'm debating on the same thing. To get the blower or cams. I'm probably going for VT Stage 2 cams seeing as how I have too many miles on my car for a blower and while I have the cam fun I'll be building a new motor with a roots style blower probably. I guess it's all in who wants what.

MattJ · 01-15-2006, 03:54 PM

blower...

/thread

WaterDR · 01-15-2006, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by shad0wsGT

Just remember that once you do this it's going to be a permanent N/A car unless you have the money to buy a new motor. I'm debating on the same thing. To get the blower or cams. I'm probably going for VT Stage 2 cams seeing as how I have too many miles on my car for a blower and while I have the cam fun I'll be building a new motor with a roots style blower probably. I guess it's all in who wants what.

How many miles do you have on your car?

I am at 63k.

I also have another unusual situation. If I want to race AND not have a roll gage, I need to stay n/a. With a vert and the new regs, under 13.50 and you need a cage. But, I need to double-check.

See my delemma?

MattJ · 01-15-2006, 04:23 PM

Ive never seen any street supercharged mustang need a cage. I know guys running 12.3s and dont have cages.

WaterDR · 01-15-2006, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by MattJ

Ive never seen any street supercharged mustang need a cage. I know guys running 12.3s and dont have cages.

Well, if that is the case, they will not be allowed to race anymore from what I can tell. Tracks are getting more rigid due to insurance issues too.

http://www.nhra.com/2004/news/november/110102.html

MattJ · 01-15-2006, 05:24 PM

I read that and youve got a vert. I dont know any 99+ GTs that are verts with blowers. The guys I know have coupes.

shad0ws · 01-15-2006, 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MT's#1Customer!

How many miles do you have on your car?

I am at 63k.

I also have another unusual situation. If I want to race AND not have a roll gage, I need to stay n/a. With a vert and the new regs, under 13.50 and you need a cage. But, I need to double-check.

See my delemma?

LoL, I'm at 87K but this is my daily driver and it's a 99 so give me some slack.

WaterDR · 01-15-2006, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by shad0wsGT

LoL, I'm at 87K but this is my daily driver and it's a 99 so give me some slack.

Slack granted!

So where you going for heads/cams?

shad0ws · 01-15-2006, 06:30 PM

Umm, I'm going for some VT Stage 2 Cams and maybe some Heads if I'm willing to dish out that kind of money. But when I finally get serious about all this stuff and probably after I get out of UTI I'll go for miles per hour custom built motor and blower combo. My main focus right now is just cams, headers, exterior, and suspension. Just some stuff to keep me busy but mostly stuff that will help eventually with a new motor and blower.

Mug11 · 01-15-2006, 07:14 PM

Get heads/cams... cast iron intake mainifold (when it comes out), run 125 shot and there ya go.

I have comp 262's, which are perfect for nitrous, which i plan on doin later on in the life of the car.

:bash: whistlers, lol

*madmatt* · 01-15-2006, 09:13 PM

Blake, get the blower. End of story. I guess its just cause Im still high on the race gas from dyno day, but hearing that Kenne Bell whine and put down 600 rwhp was enough for me. Now, I dont want anywhere near 600 rwhp, as to me, thats just not fun on the street anymore. BUT, if i were to do it, it would be a KB 1.7 and nothing else. I dunno though, I just want my car payed off this year or maybe a little into next. That is my only goal for the car right now, im tired of paying finance charges...

*Lances03SVT* · 01-16-2006, 04:41 AM

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Originally Posted by madmatt

Blake, get the blower. End of story. I guess its just cause Im still high on the race gas from dyno day, but hearing that Kenne Bell whine and put down 600 rwhp was enough for me. Now, I dont want anywhere near 600 rwhp, as to me, thats just not fun on the street anymore. BUT, if i were to do it, it would be a KB 1.7 and nothing else. I dunno though, I just want my car payed off this year or maybe a little into next. That is my only goal for the car right now, im tired of paying finance charges...

I agree with Matt.Get the S/C.Oh by the way Matt I have 0% on mine

02wt5sp · 01-16-2006, 05:15 AM

I'm in the same boat.... I live like 20 mins from Steen Racing, and was really thinkin hard about getting a stage 2+ head port and stage 2 cams. The only problem is that all that would cost $2500 installed and tuned, and would put down a little over 300 rwhp, for a little over a grand more I can get a blower and put down close to 400 with a lot more room to grow, so now I'm just tryin to choose which one to go with!

csledd · 01-16-2006, 06:35 AM

I'd get the s/c.. either the kb 1.7 or a mongoose kit. and you can buy me one while your at it

*madmatt* · 01-16-2006, 06:56 AM

Yea, thats the only problem I have with an n/a setup is that you are so close to a blower, you can taste it.

01-16-2006, 11:12 AM

i would redo the whole engine...

cams, heads, pistons, etc, etc, etc...

ya get a bit more horse like that...

foncarelli · 01-16-2006, 11:19 AM

I would start with a miles per hour or VT shortblock and go from there.

WaterDR · 01-16-2006, 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 02wt5sp

I'm in the same boat.... I live like 20 mins from Steen Racing, and was really thinkin hard about getting a stage 2+ head port and stage 2 cams. The only problem is that all that would cost $2500 installed and tuned, and would put down a little over 300 rwhp, for a little over a grand more I can get a blower and put down close to 400 with a lot more room to grow, so now I'm just tryin to choose which one to go with!

Wow, I think 2500 is cheap for parts and installed with tune. I think with install and tune on a blower you will be a lot more then $1000 more...more like almost $5,000.

I have quotes on blower kits...they are around $4,000 with everything. Shops charge about $1000 to install if there is a cooler and then $200 - $300 for a tune.

Badfish · 01-16-2006, 11:24 AM

dont pay a shop to install it, make a freind who knows his ****, and have him help

sacstoy02gt · 01-16-2006, 11:24 AM

for some strange reason...I vote blower. :shifty:

floppy · 01-16-2006, 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GREG@94GT

i would redo the whole engine...

cams, heads, pistons, etc, etc, etc...

ya get a bit more horse like that...

more horse than what? a blower? um, no. what are you talking about?

ponygrrl · 01-16-2006, 01:06 PM

do both

i bought a set of Steen Racing stage 3 blower purpose ported heads and a set of VT stage 2 blower cams assembled with comp springs. this combo will give me some hp n/a but once i get my blower on it'll be frickin' awesome. i can't wait! neither can my tuner haha.

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shad0ws vDUB Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 1,468	Just remember that once you do this it's going to be a permanent N/A car unless you have the money to buy a new motor. I'm debating on the same thing. To get the blower or cams. I'm probably going for VT Stage 2 cams seeing as how I have too many miles on my car for a blower and while I have the cam fun I'll be building a new motor with a roots style blower probably. I guess it's all in who wants what. __________________

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MattJ Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Racine, WI Posts: 10,243	Ive never seen any street supercharged mustang need a cage. I know guys running 12.3s and dont have cages. __________________ 2001 Mustang GT Premium - Mineral Grey

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MattJ Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Racine, WI Posts: 10,243	I read that and youve got a vert. I dont know any 99+ GTs that are verts with blowers. The guys I know have coupes. __________________ 2001 Mustang GT Premium - Mineral Grey

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shad0ws vDUB Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 1,468	Umm, I'm going for some VT Stage 2 Cams and maybe some Heads if I'm willing to dish out that kind of money. But when I finally get serious about all this stuff and probably after I get out of UTI I'll go for miles per hour custom built motor and blower combo. My main focus right now is just cams, headers, exterior, and suspension. Just some stuff to keep me busy but mostly stuff that will help eventually with a new motor and blower. __________________

01-15-2006, 07:14 PM	#12 (permalink)
Mug11 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Lubbock/Houston, TX Posts: 909	Get heads/cams... cast iron intake mainifold (when it comes out), run 125 shot and there ya go. I have comp 262's, which are perfect for nitrous, which i plan on doin later on in the life of the car. :bash: whistlers, lol __________________

01-15-2006, 09:13 PM	#13 (permalink)
madmatt Traitor...lol Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Lexington, SC Posts: 7,936	Blake, get the blower. End of story. I guess its just cause Im still high on the race gas from dyno day, but hearing that Kenne Bell whine and put down 600 rwhp was enough for me. Now, I dont want anywhere near 600 rwhp, as to me, thats just not fun on the street anymore. BUT, if i were to do it, it would be a KB 1.7 and nothing else. I dunno though, I just want my car payed off this year or maybe a little into next. That is my only goal for the car right now, im tired of paying finance charges... __________________ RPMPlanets

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02wt5sp rice..it'swhat'sfordinner Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: hampton va Posts: 324	I'm in the same boat.... I live like 20 mins from Steen Racing, and was really thinkin hard about getting a stage 2+ head port and stage 2 cams. The only problem is that all that would cost $2500 installed and tuned, and would put down a little over 300 rwhp, for a little over a grand more I can get a blower and put down close to 400 with a lot more room to grow, so now I'm just tryin to choose which one to go with! __________________ NO MORE GT!!! UPGRADED TO COBRA!!! Mods: magnaflow catback, JLT CAI bone stock dyno #'s 372rwhp and 364rwtq

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csledd DSG!!! Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Paducah, KY Posts: 3,074	I'd get the s/c.. either the kb 1.7 or a mongoose kit. and you can buy me one while your at it __________________ CAP DSG Registry 2003 Mustang GT - daily driven check out my cardomain for more info 296 rwhp / 310 rwtq Money spent @ AM: $4623.20 1984 Mustang Hatch - low budget project

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madmatt Traitor...lol Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Lexington, SC Posts: 7,936	Yea, thats the only problem I have with an n/a setup is that you are so close to a blower, you can taste it. __________________ RPMPlanets

01-16-2006, 11:12 AM	#18 (permalink)
GREG@94GT Posts: n/a	i would redo the whole engine... cams, heads, pistons, etc, etc, etc... ya get a bit more horse like that...

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foncarelli Everyday Im Hustlin Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Ecorse, Michigan Posts: 3,661	I would start with a miles per hour or VT shortblock and go from there. __________________

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Badfish Listen to reggae. Join Date: May 2005 Location: Colorado Springs, CO Posts: 9,146	dont pay a shop to install it, make a freind who knows his ****, and have him help __________________ '04 2.3l Evo '86 GSXR 750

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sacstoy02gt Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Wind Lake, WI Posts: 147	for some strange reason...I vote blower. :shifty: __________________ Satin Silver '02 GT - Just a little twin-screwed 4.6...

01-16-2006, 01:06 PM	#24 (permalink)
ponygrrl Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: palm beach gardens, FL Posts: 221	do both i bought a set of Steen Racing stage 3 blower purpose ported heads and a set of VT stage 2 blower cams assembled with comp springs. this combo will give me some hp n/a but once i get my blower on it'll be frickin' awesome. i can't wait! neither can my tuner haha.