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NeedACobra 05-12-2010 11:09 AM

Carwin IS all around better than Lesnar. Lesnar has had 5 very unimpressive fights with atleast 4 very unimpressive fighters. The only person he fought who was worth a shit, was Randy, and wow, he beat a 40 something who's out of his prime. Carwin has FINISHED everyone he's fought. 11-0, compared to brocks 4-1. Brocks bread and butter is laying down on someone for a whole 3-5 rounds. Carwin isnt going to let lesnar do that, nor CAN lesnar even do that to carwin. Ill even go on to say that, I bet that former roid head douchebag quits fighting after carwin stomps his nutts in.

TUFF 4.6 05-12-2010 12:24 PM

I agree^ I think Lesner brought a lot of "hype" with him from the WWE. His shear size is the only thing he has going for him.

00blkstanggt 05-12-2010 12:27 PM


Originally Posted by NeedACobra (Post 457844)
Carwin IS all around better than Lesnar. Lesnar has had 5 very unimpressive fights with atleast 4 very unimpressive fighters. The only person he fought who was worth a shit, was Randy, and wow, he beat a 40 something who's out of his prime. Carwin has FINISHED everyone he's fought. 11-0, compared to brocks 4-1. Brocks bread and butter is laying down on someone for a whole 3-5 rounds. Carwin isnt going to let lesnar do that, nor CAN lesnar even do that to carwin. Ill even go on to say that, I bet that former roid head douchebag quits fighting after carwin stomps his nutts in.

Just curious as to what you'll say if Lesnar wins? Or if he loses and doesn't quit? But seriously, who and how many guys does he have to beat to deserve to be in UFC? Hate the guy if you want, but why doesn't he deserve to be there. He can probably beat the best guy out there, and you'll still make some excuse. I don't really watch this stuff anyways, but obviously he worked his ass off to do what he does. Plus it's not his fault that they match him up with certain people. You win anyway possible.

NeedACobra 05-12-2010 01:16 PM


Originally Posted by 00blkstanggt (Post 457852)
Just curious as to what you'll say if Lesnar wins? Or if he loses and doesn't quit? But seriously, who and how many guys does he have to beat to deserve to be in UFC? Hate the guy if you want, but why doesn't he deserve to be there. He can probably beat the best guy out there, and you'll still make some excuse. I don't really watch this stuff anyways, but obviously he worked his ass off to do what he does. Plus it's not his fault that they match him up with certain people. You win anyway possible.

Im pretty curious as to what Id say myself, if that was going to happen...but If you know your MMA, then you know better. Never said he didnt deserve to be there, hell, obviously they'll let any 'ol doucher in there as long as they have something to offer for the UFC. Hell, they let Kimbo, a street fighter in there, cause kimbo had ALOOOTT of hype, and hype equals ratings. They let Brock in to see what he could do AND to wrangle up all the "professional wrestling" fans and get them to buy the UFC ppv's. Turns out he beats some mediocre guys, and now every douchebag redneck I know thinks brock lesnar is the best pound for pound fighter on earth. Im just saying, the Heavy-weight division in the UFC wasnt all that stacked when Lesnar got in there, and it still hardly is. There are a shit ton of better, more deserving fighters out there.

SnTBakosFinest 05-12-2010 02:22 PM

If Lesnar is able to pull off a win in a good fashion, not 5 rounds of lay and pray, I'll give him some credit where credit is due. Couture was the best he had fought. Mir has a tendency to look amazing against mediocre fighters, and then get his ass whooped when he actually moves up and has to face good fighters now days.

Lesnar deserving the belt, not yet. He hasn't fought enough fights to actually show he has what it takes to be a champion yet. He has shown he's got the athletic ability though.

I don't like him as a fighter due to his cocky personality, he hasn't beaten the best out there and doesn't have an amazing track record to be like Anderson Silva.

I don't like him as a champion because he hasn't beaten the best out there.

And I do believe Machida is going to be retiring.

And don't be suprised if you actually see Kimbo on a undercard.

NeedACobra 05-12-2010 10:12 PM

Man, I hope Machida retires. He is an absolutely boring fighter to watch. He just back steps and counter punches the whole time, and gains the points. Kinda like how GSP is doing these days....except when GSP does it, he is actually DOMINATING the other guy. Id still like to see GSP start finishing guys though...I know he can...but yeah, machida? Good riddance.

SnTBakosFinest 05-13-2010 03:43 AM


Originally Posted by NeedACobra (Post 457903)
Man, I hope Machida retires. He is an absolutely boring fighter to watch. He just back steps and counter punches the whole time, and gains the points. Kinda like how GSP is doing these days....except when GSP does it, he is actually DOMINATING the other guy. Id still like to see GSP start finishing guys though...I know he can...but yeah, machida? Good riddance.

Machida, for the past few fights has been much more exciting to watch then GSP.

I'd rather watch a guy counter punch and swing then watch GSP dry hump someone. GSP rarely attempts to finish a fight legitimately, Machida does.

BTW, Machida got fucked up. Broke some bone in his face, thats why you saw the little string of blood in his nose, and I guess, when he'd breathe in, pressure would build on his eye. Good shit.

Oh, and I'll call it now, Rampage in round 2. Just sayin.

WTF is up with Fedor not fighting Overeem? Instead he's fighting a lesser opponent. Proven, because Brett Rogers will be fighting Overeem, not Fedor.

zigzagg321 05-13-2010 04:42 AM

Koscheck and Rashad are both fags.

rkaz 05-13-2010 06:16 AM


Originally Posted by SnTBakosFinest (Post 457909)
Oh, and I'll call it now, Rampage in round 2. Just sayin.

WTF is up with Fedor not fighting Overeem? Instead he's fighting a lesser opponent. Proven, because Brett Rogers will be fighting Overeem, not Fedor.

Rampage has to keep this fight standing to win, and I hope he does. As far as Fedor goes, it blows my mind how he gets matched against the lower part of the food chain. If he is such a bad ass how come he don't fight the best. IMO thats why he (or his handlers) don't sign with the UFC. In the UFC their are no easy fights.

rkaz 05-13-2010 06:19 AM


Originally Posted by zigzagg321 (Post 457911)
Koscheck and Rashad are both fags.

+1. I could go on all day on how just Koscheck is such a bitch.

00blkstanggt 05-13-2010 06:41 AM


Originally Posted by NeedACobra (Post 457860)
Im pretty curious as to what Id say myself, if that was going to happen...but If you know your MMA, then you know better. Never said he didnt deserve to be there, hell, obviously they'll let any 'ol doucher in there as long as they have something to offer for the UFC. Hell, they let Kimbo, a street fighter in there, cause kimbo had ALOOOTT of hype, and hype equals ratings. They let Brock in to see what he could do AND to wrangle up all the "professional wrestling" fans and get them to buy the UFC ppv's. Turns out he beats some mediocre guys, and now every douchebag redneck I know thinks brock lesnar is the best pound for pound fighter on earth. Im just saying, the Heavy-weight division in the UFC wasnt all that stacked when Lesnar got in there, and it still hardly is. There are a shit ton of better, more deserving fighters out there.

Fair enough. I agree that he's definitely not the best pound for pound fighter, but he's obviously got some skills. I guess only time will tell to see how well he does when better fighters arise.

NewMustangMan 05-13-2010 08:12 AM


Originally Posted by zigzagg321 (Post 457911)
Koscheck and Rashad are both fags.


I agree on Koscheck but not Rashad. Only for the fact that he trains at Jackson's. If not i would agree. lol

zigzagg321 05-13-2010 12:39 PM


Originally Posted by NewMustangMan (Post 457931)
I agree on Koscheck but not Rashad. Only for the fact that he trains at Jackson's. If not i would agree. lol


are you saying that rashad trains at rampage jackson's place?

rkaz 05-13-2010 01:33 PM

Greg Jackson's place

NewMustangMan 05-13-2010 02:02 PM


Originally Posted by rkaz (Post 457963)
Greg Jackson's place

Correct. His main Gym is out here in New Mexico

Badfish 05-13-2010 02:51 PM

Did anybody catch UFC Primetime last night? Cover Evans and Rampage as they train for the fight. Rashad's training At the Grudge Training Center in Denver looked intense..sprinting with parachutes attached to him and what not. while it just showed rampage boxing and jogging around liverpool lol. I'm thinking rashad might take the win on this one.

SnTBakosFinest 05-13-2010 05:37 PM


Originally Posted by Badfish (Post 457967)
Did anybody catch UFC Primetime last night? Cover Evans and Rampage as they train for the fight. Rashad's training At the Grudge Training Center in Denver looked intense..sprinting with parachutes attached to him and what not. while it just showed rampage boxing and jogging around liverpool lol. I'm thinking rashad might take the win on this one.

Don't doubt Rampage so much. Rampage has never liked training, and he is actually focusing for it. The camp Rashad is at (he was also in Montreal as well) is the same camp GSP is at..where they teach the amazing lay and pray method.

Rampage however, is a good wrestler, went to college for it as well. He's extremely strong and may very well be able to force Rashad off of him. Rashad doesn't have an amazing chin either..we've seen it.. Rampage on the other hand does...anyone remember how many soccer kicks to the face it took Rua to finally get Rampage to "quit" lol.

Rashad calling Rampage "Quittin" is funny, Rashad hasn't been kicked in the face while he's on the ground multiple times by a guy like Shogun..

NeedACobra 05-13-2010 05:43 PM


Originally Posted by rkaz (Post 457915)
Rampage has to keep this fight standing to win, and I hope he does. As far as Fedor goes, it blows my mind how he gets matched against the lower part of the food chain. If he is such a bad ass how come he don't fight the best. IMO thats why he (or his handlers) don't sign with the UFC. In the UFC their are no easy fights.

Dude, there have been plenty of pride fighters making the transition to the UFC and whipping ass. Anderson, Shogun, Vitor, Dan Hendo..etc..holding titles, too, I might add. Fedor is probably holding out for a bigger contract.

NeedACobra 05-13-2010 05:45 PM


Originally Posted by SnTBakosFinest (Post 457979)
Don't doubt Rampage so much. Rampage has never liked training, and he is actually focusing for it. The camp Rashad is at (he was also in Montreal as well) is the same camp GSP is at..where they teach the amazing lay and pray method.

Rampage however, is a good wrestler, went to college for it as well. He's extremely strong and may very well be able to force Rashad off of him. Rashad doesn't have an amazing chin either..we've seen it.. Rampage on the other hand does...anyone remember how many soccer kicks to the face it took Rua to finally get Rampage to "quit" lol.

Rashad calling Rampage "Quittin" is funny, Rashad hasn't been kicked in the face while he's on the ground multiple times by a guy like Shogun..

My thoughts exactly.

rkaz 05-13-2010 06:05 PM


Originally Posted by NeedACobra (Post 457980)
Dude, there have been plenty of pride fighters making the transition to the UFC and whipping ass. Anderson, Shogun, Vitor, Dan Hendo..etc..holding titles, too, I might add. Fedor is probably holding out for a bigger contract.

I'm not sure where you went with this. I said nothing about Pride guys not making it in the UFC, I said Fedor seems to be dodging the best fighters.

rkaz 05-13-2010 06:13 PM


Originally Posted by SnTBakosFinest (Post 457979)
Don't doubt Rampage so much. Rampage has never liked training, and he is actually focusing for it. The camp Rashad is at (he was also in Montreal as well) is the same camp GSP is at..where they teach the amazing lay and pray method.

Rampage however, is a good wrestler, went to college for it as well. He's extremely strong and may very well be able to force Rashad off of him. Rashad doesn't have an amazing chin either..we've seen it.. Rampage on the other hand does...anyone remember how many soccer kicks to the face it took Rua to finally get Rampage to "quit" lol.

Rashad calling Rampage "Quittin" is funny, Rashad hasn't been kicked in the face while he's on the ground multiple times by a guy like Shogun..

The best way for Rampage to win is this ^, use his wrestling to keep the fight standing and KO Rashad. I don't think Rashad is giving Rampages power the respect he deserves, and he gets KO for it. The best chance Rashad has is to use to front leg kick like Forrest did, and then use his hands to to put together combo's to set up take downs. Rashad has to get it to the ground to win plan and simple, if he stands and trades he goes to sleep.

SnTBakosFinest 05-13-2010 06:18 PM

Fedor has fought some of the best. He won't sign with the UFC over the way fighters have been treated there, and money. Not to mention he owns like half of Strikeforce. He's getting older, I don't think he's wanting the fights he used to want.

To say he wouldn't demolish 99% of the guys in UFC is absurd. I'll say the other 1% would give him a good fight though.

NeedACobra 05-13-2010 06:46 PM


Originally Posted by rkaz (Post 457915)
Rampage has to keep this fight standing to win, and I hope he does. As far as Fedor goes, it blows my mind how he gets matched against the lower part of the food chain. If he is such a bad ass how come he don't fight the best. IMO thats why he (or his handlers) don't sign with the UFC. In the UFC their are no easy fights.


rkaz 05-13-2010 07:06 PM

His handlers = his management. They seem to want more stuff than Fedor does. Why the hell he keeps them guys around is beyond me.

SnTBakosFinest 05-13-2010 07:31 PM


Originally Posted by rkaz (Post 457992)
His handlers = his management. They seem to want more stuff than Fedor does. Why the hell he keeps them guys around is beyond me.

He has said he will NEVER fight in the UFC. Himself, as a fighter. He OWNS half of Strikeforce. The only way he'd fight in the UFC is if they did a joint promotion. Why would he go to UFC and take money away from his business?

rkaz 05-13-2010 07:44 PM

I knew he was part owner of M-1 Global, but I didn't know he got part of Strikeforce. I thought M-1 gets to be a co promotion when Fedor fights in Strikeforce. Fedor's manager is the other owner of M-1, and Dana White will not let a M-1/UFC promotion happen just to sign Fedor.

SnTBakosFinest 05-13-2010 09:24 PM


Originally Posted by rkaz (Post 457999)
I knew he was part owner of M-1 Global, but I didn't know he got part of Strikeforce. I thought M-1 gets to be a co promotion when Fedor fights in Strikeforce. Fedor's manager is the other owner of M-1, and Dana White will not let a M-1/UFC promotion happen just to sign Fedor.

You're right. It's M-1. I get the two mixed up.

M-1 and Strikeforce do co-promotions etc, but the UFC will not. They like having contracts with the fighters themselves, that way they can put them into their video games etc,etc.

rkaz 05-14-2010 06:59 AM

Strikeforce also works with DREAM to make some pretty good match up's that wouldn't happen other wise. I think this is a good way to keep their doors open, but Dana will do his best to shut them down. The only reason White will sign Jake Sheilds is to piss Strikeforce off.

Badfish 06-12-2010 10:08 PM


Originally Posted by SnTBakosFinest (Post 457979)
Don't doubt Rampage so much. Rampage has never liked training, and he is actually focusing for it. The camp Rashad is at (he was also in Montreal as well) is the same camp GSP is at..where they teach the amazing lay and pray method.

Rampage however, is a good wrestler, went to college for it as well. He's extremely strong and may very well be able to force Rashad off of him. Rashad doesn't have an amazing chin either..we've seen it.. Rampage on the other hand does...anyone remember how many soccer kicks to the face it took Rua to finally get Rampage to "quit" lol.

Rashad calling Rampage "Quittin" is funny, Rashad hasn't been kicked in the face while he's on the ground multiple times by a guy like Shogun..

hope you didn't put money on that fight :D

and did anyone catch tonight's fight (liddell/franklin)? daaaaaamn

j_gutta870 06-13-2010 07:50 AM

Who thinks Liddell is done after last night?


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