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King 12-10-2008 11:45 AM

Ford Suing Enthusiasts Websites
 
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Although Ford recently told Congress that it doesn’t necessarily need a bridge loan to stave off bankruptcy, there is no doubt that the Blue Oval’s pockets are getting a little thin. However, Ford is now looking to for more interesting ways to earn a buck, and has turned to suing enthusiast web sites.

According to TheRangerStation.com – a Ford Ranger fan web site – it has received a letter from a law firm representing Ford asking it to give up its domain name along with any products using a registered Ford name or logo. The letter also demands $5,000 for trademark infringements and threatens a law suit of $100,000 if demands are not met.

“I am certainly not pleased about this,” Scott Monty, head of Ford’s digital communications team, said. “There is nothing more important to us than our loyal fans, and the big picture seems to have escaped some people.”

However, after consulting with Ford’s legal department, Monty revealed “there may be more to the [situation] than meets the eye.” Monty didn’t go into any more detail, but it’s clear there are some underlying issues we’re not privy too.

We’re sure this is far from the end of the Ford/enthusiasts legal battle, so expect to hear more on the subject in the coming days.

King 12-10-2008 11:48 AM

So should we be expecting a lawsuit since we have "mustang" as part of the sites name? lol

I'm a HUGE Ford fan and all, but this is a new low.

Badfish 12-10-2008 11:50 AM

christ. again?

if you didn't know, American Muscle used to be "Mustang Tuning" but Ford did this shit and forced them to change the name.

cheap bastards.

PistonsFan102 12-10-2008 11:51 AM

Shit, this again. I thought all of this resolved last year when it happened with the BMC.

King 12-10-2008 11:52 AM

Yeah I knew it used to be MT, didn't know that was the reason for the change.

Black Sunshine 12-10-2008 11:53 AM

Suing... America's favorite past time!

This is shitty. I guess we should start thinking of a new name for the forums!

Lazerred6 12-10-2008 11:59 AM

*ahem*........ GAY

Randy Stinchcomb 12-10-2008 12:06 PM

guys, it aint Ford but a buch of hired, low-life-scum-sucking lawyers doing this and I hightly doubt that the Ford Corporate office knows anything about this.....

Flynnster 12-10-2008 12:23 PM


Originally Posted by Lazerred6 (Post 369954)
*ahem*........ GAY

I might leave if we change the name of the forum to gay.

jseven 12-10-2008 12:31 PM

Might? lol

That is a sissy move, though. Do they think they own the
English language??

venom 12-10-2008 02:00 PM

Im surprised none of the higher ups know about this but they should.

Lazerred6 12-10-2008 02:16 PM


Originally Posted by Flynnster (Post 369958)
I might leave if we change the name of the forum to gay.

I meant it's a gay move by Ford or who evers idea it was

JackThe Ripper 12-10-2008 02:48 PM

i understand the need to protect trademarks, but at the same time, how about simply appreciating some free advertizing on thier products.

EDIT: They should counter-sure ford and make them pay for the advertizing they got for free. lol

jjtgiants 12-10-2008 03:08 PM


Originally Posted by Randy Stinchcomb (Post 369957)
guys, it aint Ford but a buch of hired, low-life-scum-sucking lawyers doing this and I hightly doubt that the Ford Corporate office knows anything about this.....

I'm not quite understanding so help me out. It's not ford who is suing these sites? Did Ford hire the low-life lawyers? I'm trying to figure out how it isn't ford, but they have the ability to file a lawsuit to protect fords trademarks? I'm honestly not trying to be a smart ass or anything, I just don't get how ford doesn't know about it.

JackThe Ripper 12-10-2008 03:15 PM

i think he means fords legal department is doing this as a rogue action without clearing it with ford CEOs

01FR500 12-10-2008 03:23 PM

No, what I think Randy means, like last time. Some random firm who thinks they can make a quick buck is stong-arming websites and stuff like that who use "Mustang" "Ranger" etc. who probably don't know much about the law, into paying them that $5000 and then thats the end of it. They send some one a big wordy letter that sounds legit into scaring people into paying. You can pretty much ignore them and they can't do anything, better yet get your own lawer and send them a letter back. They will shut-up real quick.

PistonsFan102 12-10-2008 03:33 PM

This is just going to pass over, and nothing is going to happen.

jjtgiants 12-10-2008 03:36 PM


Originally Posted by 01FR500 (Post 370001)
No, what I think Randy means, like last time. Some random firm who thinks they can make a quick buck is stong-arming websites and stuff like that who use "Mustang" "Ranger" etc. who probably don't know much about the law, into paying them that $5000 and then thats the end of it. They send some one a big wordy letter that sounds legit into scaring people into paying. You can pretty much ignore them and they can't do anything, better yet get your own lawer and send them a letter back. They will shut-up real quick.

If that's the case and Ford really doesn't know anything about it they should go after these guys. Are you guys convinced a Ford subsidiary didn't hire these hacks to do Fords dirty work? Just stirring the pot

Ghostalker 12-10-2008 07:07 PM

I think you guys are all missing the real problem here.


There is a Ford Ranger enthusiast website?

JackThe Ripper 12-10-2008 07:21 PM


Originally Posted by Ghostalker (Post 370043)
I think you guys are all missing the real problem here.


There is a Ford Ranger enthusiast website?

Lol

Actually those trucks ar pretty gnarley man, i used to have a 2002 Ranger XLT extended cab back before i bought the stang.

in fact, i took that thing 4 wheeling and managed to do far more than i suspect i had any right to do in that little truck. Ended up busting an axle seal though, so i cleaned it up and took it into repair claiming warranty, and ended up leaving the truck at the dealership and left with my mustang

i'd totally get another one of those if i had the cash.

spike_africa 12-10-2008 07:42 PM

Its happened before, and GM and even Toyota have done it before too. It happens you gotta keep a handle on your copy righted names.

Slither 12-16-2008 11:30 AM

Went to TRS site and saw this from the owner


A while back I had started making decals such as the old FORD tailgate letters, and offering some other decals for Ranger enthusiasts such as the Ranger windshield banner with the Ford logos on each side of it.

Although it was intended to be used as a way to keep The Ranger Station up and running and not a method of becoming independently wealthy...it was vilolating Fords trademarks.

I have talked to Scott Monty from Ford Motor Company and have agreed to:

1) Stop selling the decals since I do not have a trademark license to sell

2) Agree that the 'Ranger' is a product of Ford.

3) Not display any ads on The Ranger Station that would promote a competitor (Example: Banner ad for the new Chevy Colorado, etc)

4) Not use the site to make disparaging comments about Ford (AKA - Anti Ford Site)

5) Not turn The Ranger Station name over to anyone else.

I believe that's about it. I'm waiting from a letter from their attorney.

In return, Ford will allow us to keep The Ranger Station name and will not require that I pay the $5000.00 that the attorneys were asking for.

Scott went on to tell me that they recognize and support their fan websites and I would suggest that any other website owner/administrator reading this will be OK if they judge themselves on the items I had listed above. If you have ad banners you may want to make sure you have Fords competition filtered out.

I would like to say thanks to those that emailed Ford and spread the word. The attention and support from other enthusiats greatly helped in getting this resolved quickly.

I would ask that anyone who has posted about this on another website link the discussions here and ask that the moderator on that site lock the topic.

I also want to thank the other site owners for their support.


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