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rant on people that get retarded over a football game
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Originally Posted by Teal_Beast
I love how everyone is talking about what the saints has had to go through, boo ****ing hoo, those guys make millions a year, do you think they have a home? i bet they do. This isnt highschool football, I bet 90% of the players in the NFL arnt even from the state/city they play for. It is all a buisness.

team of destiny my ***.


oh and im glad the patriots god beat.

Colts vs. bears FTW!
Um from what I understood it was more about the city. It wouldn't make sense for them to say what the Saints went through considering half their team is new this year and wasn't even there for Katrina.
 
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well all i gota say is dynasty!!! hope its a forfeit for colts , cause manning has another commercial to be in.
Many teams are a dynasty. I'd like to see the Patriots today play the '94 49ers. Now thats a dynasty. They have never lost a superbowl yet. As far as Manning goes, he is a damn good quarterback. 31 touchdowns and only 9 interceptions all season. He has thrown for almost 4,000 yards every season he has played including his rookie season. Manning deserves to go as well as the Bears, but I hope the Bears lose cause I hate Rex Grossman.
 
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well all i gota say is dynasty!!! hope its a forfeit for colts , cause manning has another commercial to be in.
I think the word you where looking for is was, as in it was a dynasty. The pats are still an awesome team but they where lucky to get by San Diego and they blew the game againts Indy. If it where the pats teams from 2 years ago they would have closed that game out and it would have never gotten closer than 18 pts.

The Pats dont have the players they used to, they have Brady and Bellichik and thats about it. Dont get me wrong Bellichick is the best coach in the league and Brady is either 1 or 2 as far as QBs go. But losing all those players has finally caught up. Deon Branch wouldnt have dropped those catches Caldwell did.
 
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this is just funny, ok people keep thinking the colts are just going to run over the Bears, just listen to ESPN. And the NFC isnt as bad as you guys think it is, the bears are just head and shoulders above the rest of the NFC. Yep the bears dont deserve to be there, THEY WON 13 Games in the season, but wait their schedule sucks, they went 2-0 in the playoffs but wait the NFC sucks and so does Grossman. PLEASE keep coming up with excuses of why the bears suck, because it makes me laugh. I dont know what you guys see in Grossman that makes him so bad, its still really his first full season as a starter, in peytons first year as a starter he threw 26 TDS and 28 ints and in his 4th (grossman is in his 4th) he threw 26 and 23, but hes Peyton hes awesome, Grossman has won just as many Title games as him. And as for other QBS that have won the SB, Terry Bradshaw had thrown for 20+ ints in 3 out of the 4 SB he won. And when he first started in the league people hated him and wanted him out.

But people seriously keep coming up with funny ****, its very entertaining
 
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Old 01-22-2007, 04:13 PM
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yes i totaly agree 04darkshadowgt . Pats lost brown , vinniteri(or w.e his last name is lol) weve lost alot we need new players!.
 
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I'm just glad the pats are out, they've gotten lucky to many years in a row, now it's time to see some other teams in the Superbowl.
 
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Originally Posted by 3V2000GT
this is just funny, ok people keep thinking the colts are just going to run over the Bears, just listen to ESPN. And the NFC isnt as bad as you guys think it is, the bears are just head and shoulders above the rest of the NFC. Yep the bears dont deserve to be there, THEY WON 13 Games in the season, but wait their schedule sucks, they went 2-0 in the playoffs but wait the NFC sucks and so does Grossman. PLEASE keep coming up with excuses of why the bears suck, because it makes me laugh. I dont know what you guys see in Grossman that makes him so bad, its still really his first full season as a starter, in peytons first year as a starter he threw 26 TDS and 28 ints and in his 4th (grossman is in his 4th) he threw 26 and 23, but hes Peyton hes awesome, Grossman has won just as many Title games as him. And as for other QBS that have won the SB, Terry Bradshaw had thrown for 20+ ints in 3 out of the 4 SB he won. And when he first started in the league people hated him and wanted him out.

But people seriously keep coming up with funny ****, its very entertaining
I agree with you that Chicago is the best team in the NFC and they definatly deserve to be there. I by no means think the Colts are going to kill Chicago, if the Chicago D plays like they did againts NO then the Colts will have a hard time scoring 21 points.

But you seriously arent comparing Rex Grossman to Peyton Manning and Terry Bradshaw are you? Grossman at this point in his career is average, and its hard to argue otherwise.

You said that Grossmans numbers are comparable to Mannings in his first year (even though Grossman is in his 4th year), well yes that is kinda true but you have to remember that Manning was the #1 pick so his team was the worst in the NFL the year before and this year the Bears are in the freakin superbowl. I would say the two teams they where on where a bit different talent wise wouldnt you?

With all that said Manning still had virtually the same QB rating, had more TDs, had 550 more yards, had a better completion percentage, but did have more ints all while being on a far worse team.

Also Manning has had 1 year under 60% completion percentage (his 1st year) Grossman hasnt had any over 60%.

Manning has never had a single season under 3700 yards and only two seasons under 4100 yards. Grossmans this year 3193.

Manning has never had a single season under 26 TD passes, Grossman this year 23.

Mannings QB rating has been below 84 once his first year, Grossman this year 73.

And the best thing you can say about Manning is 9 years 0 injuries, Grossman 4 years, 3 season ending injuries.


But my last point is, can you sit there with straight face and say you wouldnt take Manning over Grossman you are a either retarded or a liar.
 
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Old 01-22-2007, 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by 04DarkShadowGT
I agree with you that Chicago is the best team in the NFC and they definatly deserve to be there. I by no means think the Colts are going to kill Chicago, if the Chicago D plays like they did againts NO then the Colts will have a hard time scoring 21 points.

But you seriously arent comparing Rex Grossman to Peyton Manning and Terry Bradshaw are you? Grossman at this point in his career is average, and its hard to argue otherwise.

You said that Grossmans numbers are comparable to Mannings in his first year (even though Grossman is in his 4th year), well yes that is kinda true but you have to remember that Manning was the #1 pick so his team was the worst in the NFL the year before and this year the Bears are in the freakin superbowl. I would say the two teams they where on where a bit different talent wise wouldnt you?

With all that said Manning still had virtually the same QB rating, had more TDs, had 550 more yards, had a better completion percentage, but did have more ints all while being on a far worse team.

Also Manning has had 1 year under 60% completion percentage (his 1st year) Grossman hasnt had any over 60%.

Manning has never had a single season under 3700 yards and only two seasons under 4100 yards. Grossmans this year 3193.

Manning has never had a single season under 26 TD passes, Grossman this year 23.

Mannings QB rating has been below 84 once his first year, Grossman this year 73.

And the best thing you can say about Manning is 9 years 0 injuries, Grossman 4 years, 3 season ending injuries.


But my last point is, can you sit there with straight face and say you wouldnt take Manning over Grossman you are a either retarded or a liar.
I agree with you Manning is a Better QB right now, but what I was trying to say is that Grossman is a LOT better than what people think, people say the bears would be much better without him but in reality they wouldnt be where they are if it wasnt for him. Everyone loves to harp on his bad games, yeah hes had about 4 really bad games but so does every other learning QB, I believe Grossman has learned his lesson and will be a much better QB in the future than people give him credit for. Call me retarded or a Liar, call me loyal to my Bears but yes I would take Grossman over Peyton, Ive been a Grossman suporter since day one even through the 1.3 rating. I just think he fits in great with the Bears.

You guys just watch he will definately suprise some people


BTW nice with coming up with some Stats, I like it, nice to see someone speak with some facts rather than opinions
 
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Old 01-22-2007, 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by 3V2000GT
Call me retarded or a Liar, call me loyal to my Bears but yes I would take Grossman over Peyton, Ive been a Grossman suporter since day one even through the 1.3 rating. I just think he fits in great with the Bears.
Well I can almost guarantee you are the only Bears fan including probably every player on that team except Grossman that wouldnt rather have Peyton.

Thats like saying no Mr. Elway or Marino I dont want you, I would rather have Vinny Testaverde.
 
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Originally Posted by 04DarkShadowGT
Well I can almost guarantee you are the only Bears fan including probably every player on that team except Grossman that wouldnt rather have Peyton.
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The two teams that make it to the super bowl aren't always necessarily the best teams with the best records. It simply boils down to which team plays better that particular day and therefore moves on. The bears and the colts have rallied against their competitors and have come out on top (regardless of what happened during the season) and for that they deserve to be in the super bowl. Don't get mad at the refs or at the other teams if your team lost because they didn't bring their a-game that day. I'm obviously a colts fan being from Indiana but I really could care less who wins. The best playing team will win and both teams are winners for making it this far....my 2 cents
 
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You know what, I say let's get rid of the play-offs and have a BCS system for the NFL. At least that would settle the "that team got lucky in the play-off" **** and the "best teams did not make the SuperBowl" issue.

WTF?
 
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You know what, I say let's get rid of the play-offs and have a BCS system for the NFL. At least that would settle the "that team got lucky in the play-off" **** and the "best teams did not make the SuperBowl" issue.

WTF?
Why not just let it be decided by divine right while were at it....lol
 
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Seriously! What the hell? People bitch about the BCS, right? Then, they bitch about the play-offs? Holly hell! I guess it boils down to if your team looses, you cry about it either way.

You just can't please people.
 
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I would rather it be the cowboys in it, but they did get the job done this year. I am proud of Lovey ( bet he got picked on daily in school) and Toney for being the first two afro americans to coach in a super bowl, but I am pulling for the Bears.
 
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I really enjoyed the playoffs this year. I was rooting for the Saints, but since they are out I'll be rooting for Peyton to finally get his ring. I'm a Redskins fan and the blew this year. We are always the off season champs, I'm looking forward to next year.
 
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Originally Posted by WaterDR
Seriously! What the hell? People bitch about the BCS, right? Then, they bitch about the play-offs? Holly hell! I guess it boils down to if your team looses, you cry about it either way.

You just can't please people.
Well as ND fan you must love the BCS because there is no way in hell they would make it on merit if there was a playoff system.
 
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this is just funny, ok people keep thinking the colts are just going to run over the Bears, just listen to ESPN. And the NFC isnt as bad as you guys think it is, the bears are just head and shoulders above the rest of the NFC. Yep the bears dont deserve to be there, THEY WON 13 Games in the season, but wait their schedule sucks, they went 2-0 in the playoffs but wait the NFC sucks and so does Grossman. PLEASE keep coming up with excuses of why the bears suck, because it makes me laugh. I dont know what you guys see in Grossman that makes him so bad, its still really his first full season as a starter, in peytons first year as a starter he threw 26 TDS and 28 ints and in his 4th (grossman is in his 4th) he threw 26 and 23, but hes Peyton hes awesome, Grossman has won just as many Title games as him. And as for other QBS that have won the SB, Terry Bradshaw had thrown for 20+ ints in 3 out of the 4 SB he won. And when he first started in the league people hated him and wanted him out.

But people seriously keep coming up with funny ****, its very entertaining
You Illinois people are hilarious! I admire your blind and unwavering devotion.
 
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You Illinois people are hilarious! I admire your blind and unwavering devotion.
what are you talking about? Blind and unwavering devotion? explain
 
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what are you talking about? Blind and unwavering devotion? explain
So would you still rather have shitty Grossman and his fumbles and INTs than the superbowl MVP Manning

Total domination on all phases of the game except the first play of the game. It wasnt even as close as the score.


I also find it ironic that the dome team that didnt deserve to be here won the game in inclimate weather.
 
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Originally Posted by 04DarkShadowGT
So would you still rather have shitty Grossman and his fumbles and INTs than the superbowl MVP Manning

Total domination on all phases of the game except the first play of the game. It wasnt even as close as the score.


I also find it ironic that the dome team that didnt deserve to be here won the game in inclimate weather.
 
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Originally Posted by 04DarkShadowGT
So would you still rather have shitty Grossman and his fumbles and INTs than the superbowl MVP Manning

Total domination on all phases of the game except the first play of the game. It wasnt even as close as the score.


I also find it ironic that the dome team that didnt deserve to be here won the game in inclimate weather.
thats ok, the bears did get beat bad last night, but as bad as they did play last night they were still in the game till the end. I think more than anything they were out coached. Im not mad the Colts were a better team last night, the Bears will be back <-----Mark my words, I promise you.

I can still hang my hat the 85 bears and the 2005 White sox and the six bulls championships.
 
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Out coached? No the bears have a shitty QB thats why they lost. Yea they were in the game until good old Rex came out and threw 2 INTs. Manning is a leader thats the kind of QB you want in the superbowl.
 
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Originally Posted by 3V2000GT
thats ok, the bears did get beat bad last night, but as bad as they did play last night they were still in the game till the end. I think more than anything they were out coached. Im not mad the Colts were a better team last night, the Bears will be back <-----Mark my words, I promise you.

I can still hang my hat the 85 bears and the 2005 White sox and the six bulls championships.
Yeah they where in the game most of the game, kinda. But seeing as how they where up 8 in the first quarter then got outscored 23-3, it really wasnt competitive the last 3. Combine that with the fact that 7 came from Hester who is a stud, and the other two scoring drives where the result of Colts turnovers and mishaps which lead to short fields.

The Bears are a good team and where definatly the best in the NFC this year. They could definatly be back next year, but unlike this year they are going to have to earn it. They actually play quite a few good teams. But if they do make it next year they will be battle tested and much more likely to put up a fight.

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But yeah you go ahead and hang your hat on the 85 Bears, laff. After all it was only 22 years ago.

Thats about as gay as saying man I am a stud because in 85 I was home comming king, even though I am fat and balding now.
 
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Originally Posted by 04DarkShadowGT
Yeah they where in the game most of the game, kinda. But seeing as how they where up 8 in the first quarter then got outscored 23-3, it really wasnt competitive the last 3. Combine that with the fact that 7 came from Hester who is a stud, and the other two scoring drives where the result of Colts turnovers and mishaps which lead to short fields.

The Bears are a good team and where definatly the best in the NFC this year. They could definatly be back next year, but unlike this year they are going to have to earn it. They actually play quite a few good teams. But if they do make it next year they will be battle tested and much more likely to put up a fight.

Home games - Detroit, Green Bay, Minnesota, Dallas, N.Y. Giants, New Orleans, Denver, Kansas City

Away games - Detroit, Green Bay, Minnesota, Philadelphia, Washington, Seattle, Oakland, San Diego


But yeah you go ahead and hang your hat on the 85 Bears, laff. After all it was only 22 years ago.

Thats about as gay as saying man I am a stud because in 85 I was home comming king, even though I am fat and balding now.
True, I am not going to argue anything that happened yesterday, it was an old fashion backside wooping. Are you a Colts fan? I see you are from IN. I have always wondered how the fan base is in IN for the Colts, because every fan I have met just seems like they are not really into it and just care when they win and could care less when they lose. I go to school close to IN and there are many Colts fans some that even play on football team that cant even name their Middle linebacker or Running back, all they know is peyton manning and marvin harrison and bob sanders. I've come to the conclusion that its becuase the colts didnt move there until the mid 80's. I wonder if people in baltimore are happy the colts won and I wonder if Browns fans were happy when the ravens won in 2000.

Just a thought
 
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True, I am not going to argue anything that happened yesterday, it was an old fashion backside wooping. Are you a Colts fan? I see you are from IN. I have always wondered how the fan base is in IN for the Colts, because every fan I have met just seems like they are not really into it and just care when they win and could care less when they lose. I go to school close to IN and there are many Colts fans some that even play on football team that cant even name their Middle linebacker or Running back, all they know is peyton manning and marvin harrison and bob sanders. I've come to the conclusion that its becuase the colts didnt move there until the mid 80's. I wonder if people in baltimore are happy the colts won and I wonder if Browns fans were happy when the ravens won in 2000.

Just a thought
Im a Colts fan and have been for as long as I have been watching the NFL (early 90s). I would say that in the north west part of Indiana its still primarily bears fans. It kinda is a mix in most of the north, but the rest of the state is pretty Colt centerd.

The Colts moving here late has definatly hurt the fan base, that and up until the last several years they havent been all that good. Its the normal band wagon fandom you see anywhere when the going is good. I am sure it was the same to some extent in Chicago. Even soccer mom who has never seen a game now has a colts or bears jersey.
 
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