Why am I soo SLOWWW... :( - Page 2

PureStang · 10-06-2006, 02:00 PM

k...if ur gonna get heads..then get something better than the PI heads, cams, and intake

go with something from modularpowerhouse for cams cause they custom grind their cams...get aftermarket heads too...i hear that patriot heads have improved their crappy design, and then get teh bullitt intake (same intake on the bullitt mustang)

this isnt gonna get u much but it sould put u a hair above 300rwhp

as for gears, go with 4.10's i rode in a stang w/ them and they are not bad...cruising at 70mph will put ur rpms at about 2500...and the modular engine likes the high rpms

(i cruise at 60 in 4th gear and i still get about 20 mpg..i do alot of street driving)

theponyfactor · 10-06-2006, 02:02 PM

race me and you'll feel fast

Netou · 10-06-2006, 02:11 PM

soo much bashing on neons

i think imma have to make a poll or something on what to get...

hey and ex-ricer....make sure u run them on HOM (High Octane Mode) otherwise ur running a car at half its potential...

Stage 3 without HOM on - 300hp
Stage 3 w/HOM on - 375

u better be a flat 12 second car if u want to atleast hang :rofl:

anywho....i dont want to stir up anything....i like the mustang soo hmmm....imma see if ill go to the junkyard and some heads and an intake and get the heads resurficed and polish up the intake and i should be good.....right??? :S

PColav6 · 10-06-2006, 02:27 PM

I think someone needs to find that video of the Chicagoland Mustang Club owning the shit out of the Chicagoland SRT-4 Club at the dragstrip

Even if you are slower than your SRT-4 friends, you can always use the "Well atleast I don't drive a Neon..." saying.

Ghostalker · 10-06-2006, 04:44 PM

just for the hell of it I am gunna watch where these heads go...
Ebay 3v Heads

White04GT · 10-06-2006, 05:06 PM

Pcola I'm sure if you had a choice between your v6 mustang and a SRT-4 you would chose the srt-4..I know I would..but not my GT =)

Ghostalker · 10-06-2006, 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by White04GT

Pcola I'm sure if you had a choice between your v6 mustang and a SRT-4 you would chose the srt-4..I know I would..but not my GT =)

well for one thing... rwd is the best! try taking some corners and really getting into it... I hate FWD 'sporty cars' because of the understeer... lets face it there arent any FWD sports cars... there was one lotus a long way back but still!

PColav6 · 10-06-2006, 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by White04GT

Pcola I'm sure if you had a choice between your v6 mustang and a SRT-4 you would chose the srt-4..I know I would..but not my GT =)

In all honesty, I'd rather have a V6 Mustang that an a fast Neon.

White04GT · 10-06-2006, 07:01 PM

I seriouslly doubt that for some reason..but if your that much of a hater on the srt-4's then alright..but I think they made them look really neat. They are pretty light too.

PColav6 · 10-06-2006, 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by White04GT

I seriouslly doubt that for some reason..but if your that much of a hater on the srt-4's then alright..but I think they made them look really neat. They are pretty light too.

I'm not a neon hater, I'm just not fond of them.

I would take a Mustang over any other car, my dreams aren't spectacular.

r3dn3ck · 10-07-2006, 09:39 AM

don't go to the junkyard and don't have them resurfaced.. that's almost never required and it'll raise your compression even more, cause slack in the timing chains and all kinds of little naggy problems.

If you've got 2 grand to spend, then get a set of heads from VT, Patriot or Livernois, stage 2 is fine. Get a set of hotter cams with it (if smog isn't an issue) and you'll smoke SRT's. Just a PI head swap can put you into the high 12's if you can drive it, and if you add some RLCA's from Maximum Motorsports and some subframe connectors you'll be in a better position for a good launch and some turbo Chrysler 4-banger for breakfast.

SRT's are front wheel drive, so they're quick but not fast from a dig (we gotta be real). AWD little rice cars can be actually fast thanks to mad traction (WRX, Evo, etc...) but FWD... nope. Can't plant the power in streetable form. In race form all things change. From a roll... all things are up for grabs... depends on the mods to the SRT.

Lastly, Neon's are ugly as sin and should never have been let out with that giant Barbie wing on them.

mikewstang · 10-07-2006, 12:18 PM

how much do you guys think labor would cost to do a PI swap?

Badfish · 10-07-2006, 12:33 PM

you bought the wrong car my friend

ex-ricer98gt · 10-07-2006, 12:46 PM

i talked to a couple spots around here it was 700 - 1000 for the swap if u have everything, intake, gaskets, heads etc

02LaserRedGT · 10-08-2006, 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Netou

Well...Im new to this V8 community...I use to have a SRT-4 before it got stolen...soo I found a good deal on this 98' GT...bone stock w/87,000 for $3600 ... very good condition inside and out...

Well anywayz...i hang out with a lot of srt-4 owners and well, lets just say i ran the slowest one...and he pulled 4+ cars on me from a 30mph roll

I got no idea what the car has, the Speedometer reads 10mph above what it should (compared with a friend) and i dont think 6,000 rpms is redline anymore since it doesnt pull hardly anything past 5,500 <--- dont know if thats normal for V8s

Anywho...any advice on what to get and what to start off with...I have already installed Long Tube Headers, Mac Catless H-Pipe and a flowmaster 40 series cat back exhaust....I have a CAI, Intake Spacer and Short Throw coming in the mail. What else can be good to add. I am wanting to get rid of that ugly 4X4 stance it has. Any suggestions???

Congratulations. You bought the red-headed stepchild of all V8 Mustangs.

Going from an SRT4 to a NPI 2V is quite a downgrade, as far as performance goes. SRT4s are even faster than the 99-04 2V GTs and are a better bang for the buck, though most GT owners would hate to admit that.

Netou · 10-09-2006, 07:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 02LaserRedGT

Congratulations. You bought the red-headed stepchild of all V8 Mustangs.

Going from an SRT4 to a NPI 2V is quite a downgrade, as far as performance goes. SRT4s are even faster than the 99-04 2V GTs and are a better bang for the buck, though most GT owners would hate to admit that.

yes, i know i downgraded a lot...

...i love mustangs, but only the fast ones

guess ill just get some 4.10 gears and a shot of nos and call it a day then...

FYI...an srt with $500 bucks worth of bolt ons can pull a mid 12 second car from a roll...its been proven over and over again...and we got videos to back it up...digs are different since the srt cant get the power to the ground

oh well...

what about supercharging the stang like it is right now? worth it?

Ghostalker · 10-09-2006, 07:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Netou

guess ill just get some 4.10 gears and a shot of nos and call it a day then...

what about supercharging the stang like it is right now? worth it?

worth it? yes, but more so with the perfromance heads... with 4.10's and nitrous you should be more than happy with your racing performance... have you been enjoying real burnouts and donuts yet? hell now you can own time attack and even drifting if you so choose lol

Netou · 10-09-2006, 09:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ghostalker

worth it? yes, but more so with the perfromance heads... with 4.10's and nitrous you should be more than happy with your racing performance... have you been enjoying real burnouts and donuts yet? hell now you can own time attack and even drifting if you so choose lol

its been pouring down here and havent had time to do a good dry burnout like i use to years ago with my other stang...

but im diggin the rwd drifting...

my stang has the POS 16in rims...any1 know what is the widest tire size i can use on them??? it currently has 245s....can 255s fit?? hmmm

Ghostalker · 10-09-2006, 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Netou

my stang has the POS 16in rims...any1 know what is the widest tire size i can use on them??? it currently has 245s....can 255s fit?? hmmm

I am pretty sure the 16" are 16x8, so I think you could go all the way up to 275s

Netou · 10-09-2006, 09:39 AM

how sure are you???

hmmm

Ghostalker · 10-09-2006, 09:45 AM

sorry, just checked, they are 16x7 so I am not sure if you can go any bigger... someone here knows im sure lol

Netou · 10-09-2006, 10:44 AM

16 X 7 FTL!!!!!

guess imma have to stay with my 245s

mikewstang · 10-09-2006, 12:40 PM

get a set of black dd bullitts
with some 285/40/17's on the back
245/45/17 on the front

10-06-2006, 02:00 PM	#31 (permalink)
PureStang WE ARE PENNSTATE Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Downingtown/West Chester, PA Posts: 5,043	k...if ur gonna get heads..then get something better than the PI heads, cams, and intake go with something from modularpowerhouse for cams cause they custom grind their cams...get aftermarket heads too...i hear that patriot heads have improved their crappy design, and then get teh bullitt intake (same intake on the bullitt mustang) this isnt gonna get u much but it sould put u a hair above 300rwhp as for gears, go with 4.10's i rode in a stang w/ them and they are not bad...cruising at 70mph will put ur rpms at about 2500...and the modular engine likes the high rpms (i cruise at 60 in 4th gear and i still get about 20 mpg..i do alot of street driving) __________________ Brandon J My Ride sig by purestang

10-06-2006, 02:02 PM	#32 (permalink)
theponyfactor Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 741	race me and you'll feel fast __________________ 1995 3.8L Ford Mustang Chrome 17" fr500s//Mac Y-Pipe Exhaust//SS Bumper Inserts//H&R Sport Springs//Mach 1 Takeoff Shocks & Struts//MM C/C Plates//Very Slow

10-06-2006, 04:44 PM	#35 (permalink)
Ghostalker BOLO 4 ME Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Danbury, CT Posts: 2,362	just for the hell of it I am gunna watch where these heads go... Ebay 3v Heads __________________ Ghosty is in need of some mods...

10-06-2006, 05:06 PM	#36 (permalink)
White04GT Procharged Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Kingwood, Tx. Posts: 1,031	Pcola I'm sure if you had a choice between your v6 mustang and a SRT-4 you would chose the srt-4..I know I would..but not my GT =) __________________ 2004 White GT just another Procharged GT. 401rwhp/407rwtq 8#'s in hot texas summer heat, built auto transmission.

10-06-2006, 07:01 PM	#39 (permalink)
White04GT Procharged Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Kingwood, Tx. Posts: 1,031	I seriouslly doubt that for some reason..but if your that much of a hater on the srt-4's then alright..but I think they made them look really neat. They are pretty light too. __________________ 2004 White GT just another Procharged GT. 401rwhp/407rwtq 8#'s in hot texas summer heat, built auto transmission.

10-06-2006, 02:11 PM	#33 (permalink)
Netou Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Houston, Tx Posts: 30	soo much bashing on neons i think imma have to make a poll or something on what to get... hey and ex-ricer....make sure u run them on HOM (High Octane Mode) otherwise ur running a car at half its potential... Stage 3 without HOM on - 300hp Stage 3 w/HOM on - 375 u better be a flat 12 second car if u want to atleast hang :rofl: anywho....i dont want to stir up anything....i like the mustang soo hmmm....imma see if ill go to the junkyard and some heads and an intake and get the heads resurficed and polish up the intake and i should be good.....right??? :S

10-07-2006, 09:39 AM	#41 (permalink)
r3dn3ck Wowbagger hates me too! Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Magrathea/California Posts: 7,146	don't go to the junkyard and don't have them resurfaced.. that's almost never required and it'll raise your compression even more, cause slack in the timing chains and all kinds of little naggy problems. If you've got 2 grand to spend, then get a set of heads from VT, Patriot or Livernois, stage 2 is fine. Get a set of hotter cams with it (if smog isn't an issue) and you'll smoke SRT's. Just a PI head swap can put you into the high 12's if you can drive it, and if you add some RLCA's from Maximum Motorsports and some subframe connectors you'll be in a better position for a good launch and some turbo Chrysler 4-banger for breakfast. SRT's are front wheel drive, so they're quick but not fast from a dig (we gotta be real). AWD little rice cars can be actually fast thanks to mad traction (WRX, Evo, etc...) but FWD... nope. Can't plant the power in streetable form. In race form all things change. From a roll... all things are up for grabs... depends on the mods to the SRT. Lastly, Neon's are ugly as sin and should never have been let out with that giant Barbie wing on them.

10-07-2006, 12:18 PM	#42 (permalink)
mikewstang Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 101	how much do you guys think labor would cost to do a PI swap? __________________ 1998 Mustang GT 40 series flows off road h pipe black projector headlights BBk cold air kit 17x9 front, 17x10.5 back Cobra wheels springs, shocks/struts coming soon

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Badfish Listen to reggae. Join Date: May 2005 Location: Colorado Springs, CO Posts: 8,974	you bought the wrong car my friend __________________ '04 2.3l Evo '86 GSXR 750

10-07-2006, 12:46 PM	#44 (permalink)
ex-ricer98gt Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 194	i talked to a couple spots around here it was 700 - 1000 for the swap if u have everything, intake, gaskets, heads etc __________________ mods now: flownmaster 40's, mac long tubes, mac prochamber, Motive 4.10's, diablosport tune, k&n fipk waiting to be installed: pi intake and cams

10-09-2006, 09:39 AM	#50 (permalink)
Netou Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Houston, Tx Posts: 30	how sure are you??? hmmm

10-09-2006, 09:45 AM	#51 (permalink)
Ghostalker BOLO 4 ME Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Danbury, CT Posts: 2,362	sorry, just checked, they are 16x7 so I am not sure if you can go any bigger... someone here knows im sure lol __________________ Ghosty is in need of some mods...

10-09-2006, 10:44 AM	#52 (permalink)
Netou Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Houston, Tx Posts: 30	16 X 7 FTL!!!!! guess imma have to stay with my 245s

10-09-2006, 12:40 PM	#53 (permalink)
mikewstang Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 101	get a set of black dd bullitts with some 285/40/17's on the back 245/45/17 on the front __________________ 1998 Mustang GT 40 series flows off road h pipe black projector headlights BBk cold air kit 17x9 front, 17x10.5 back Cobra wheels springs, shocks/struts coming soon