Cdc Shaker

MAD SAMURAI · 11-16-2005, 02:59 PM

Hey guys, anyone have any experience with the shaker system for sale on this site? Besides looking good, are there any real performance gains from this. Is it the same system that is on the Mach I. Also, how hard is it to install? Thanks for any help/info you can give.

*4.6 Love* · 11-16-2005, 03:02 PM

Its just for looks....

jjtgiants · 11-16-2005, 05:21 PM

I don't know what performance gain you can get from adding one to your car if any at all, but I know when I fire my Mach up I can hear air suck through the shaker, so on my car I don't think it's just for looks. I believe Scott Hoag, the guy who designed the Mach 1 said you don't start seeing any performance gain from the shaker until after 70mph. For what it's worth its a pretty freaking cool looking!

MAD SAMURAI · 11-16-2005, 05:30 PM

Yeah...I think it looks awesome!! I'm gonna have a little extra $$ floating around for x-mas. I'm just not sure where I want to put it.

jjtgiants · 11-16-2005, 05:40 PM

I guess it just depends what your looking for. If you want a performance mod, the shaker probably isn't going to do anything for you.....if you want a "look cool" mod then this might be the one. It just depends what you want to do with the car. I think there is another guy on this website that put the shaker system on his GT so maybe he'll chime in.

11-16-2005, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by jjtgiants

I don't know what performance gain you can get from adding one to your car if any at all, but I know when I fire my Mach up I can hear air suck through the shaker, so on my car I don't think it's just for looks. I believe Scott Hoag, the guy who designed the Mach 1 said you don't start seeing any performance gain from the shaker until after 70mph. For what it's worth its a pretty freaking cool looking!

That doesent suprise me. I never thought it would do much good at low speeds, however, get going fast enough and have that air ramming in, i'd imagine it starts acting like a supercharger.

It would be interesting to hook up one of those boost gauges to the intake on the mach1 and haul ass down the highway and see what the PSI for the intake is at various speed.

stangspeed · 11-16-2005, 06:24 PM

Speaking of "ram air" What do you think the benefits would be to adding a ram air kit to ones car? Is it worth it? I have been pondering this for a week now, and would like someone else's opinion before I spend $120.00 on a kit.

*Lances03SVT* · 11-16-2005, 06:28 PM

They don't work at all.There are some very long threads about them on some other forums.Alot of people wasted money on the "Ram-Air" TA's it was all tune.

11-16-2005, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by stangspeed

Speaking of "ram air" What do you think the benefits would be to adding a ram air kit to ones car? Is it worth it? I have been pondering this for a week now, and would like someone else's opinion before I spend $120.00 on a kit.

If yer going for 1/4 miles runs i say the ram air is a good idea. From stoplight to stoplight i doubt you will benefit at all.

If the shaker is set at a point where the aerdynamics allow the air to be rammed into the scoop yer going to get a benefit at high speeds, it becomes a sort of forced induction. Drive down the highway at 70mph and stick yer hand out the window, that is the pressure being forced in.

However, with the mach1 setup, the shaker is very low profile and close to the hood. I have gone out and washed my car many times and hit the highway to help it dry off, however, the water on the hood doesent move much, that is because of the aerodynamics of the car. That tells me that air isnt being forced in with the same wind force felt when sticking yer hand out the car, or the water would roll up the hood. Ill bet if the shaker was about 2-3 inches higher the benefit would be greater.

but then again, im not an engineer or a physics guru, so i could be wrong.

11-16-2005, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Lances03GT

They don't work at all.There are some very long threads about them on some other forums.Alot of people wasted money on the "Ram-Air" TA's it was all tune.

Yeah i dont doubt it. With a bigger mouth in a location where the aerodynamics actually encourage the air to move in im sure it would benefit. You wont see it on a dyno though unless you had a fan producing the correct windspeed to see the benefit.

I still think they best way to gauge it would be with a boost gauge tied to the intake to see if the psi of the air increases with higher speeds.

If i had a mach1 i would totally go out and buy the gauge and hit the highway and try it out.

stangspeed · 11-16-2005, 06:57 PM

Ya I see your point..The whole air thing has been puzzling me.. I thought with my air filter down below my light would breathe more air, but I ended up cutting the pipe for a more straight shot version. So the air still travels up the same path Im sure, but didnt know if by have a tube going directly from the front of the car to the filter would help much..I also can see where higher speeds would benefit, as opposed to short runs from light to light...I too would be curious to see if it worked by way of a gauge..How would you set that up? Doesnt it have a sensor?

*Lances03SVT* · 11-16-2005, 07:08 PM

Here is a long thread about it.
http://www.allfordmustangs.com/forum...ad.php?t=18409

stangspeed · 11-16-2005, 07:17 PM

The jury is ajourned....Thks....

B-rett · 11-17-2005, 08:01 AM

speaking of the shaker.........wouldnt u have to buy a mach 1 hood if you bought the shaker system 2 get the 3 different levels of the mach 1 hood??????i dont see the shaker looking right coming out of a gt hood.......

jjtgiants · 11-17-2005, 09:37 AM

I think slappy is probably right about the aerodynamics of the hood and the shaker....but that's probably why the hood of the mach 1 is different than the GT hood. They have a shaker extension kit that raises it a 1/4 inch or something close to that....I don't know if it helps, but it probably looks cool.

I'm pretty sure I've seen instructions somewhere that showed you how to use the existing GT hood while cutting a perfect "hole" to fit the shaker. I'm pretty sure you can also buy the hood, but then your talking about a $1,700 (at least) mod that more than likely won't get you any HP, but will look pretty cool I guess.

11-17-2005, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by B-rett

speaking of the shaker.........wouldnt u have to buy a mach 1 hood if you bought the shaker system 2 get the 3 different levels of the mach 1 hood??????i dont see the shaker looking right coming out of a gt hood.......

You yank off the hood scoop, then cut a hole for the shaker, then there is a top piece that attaches to the top of the hood to give it that 3rd level.
i think

*4.6 Love* · 11-17-2005, 11:25 AM

I will say it again, if you are adding a shaker on a 2v in hopes of gaining power you are wasting your time...we all know how much power ram air gives..

11-17-2005, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by 4.6 Love

I will say it again, if you are adding a shaker on a 2v in hopes of gaining power you are wasting your time...we all know how much power ram air gives..

So what exactly makes you think that if we all ignored you the first time that were gonna give a crap this time?

B-rett · 11-17-2005, 12:05 PM

alrite so there is a piece you can put on ur gt hood that gives it that 3rd level cause without it i think it would just not look right

*4.6 Love* · 11-17-2005, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by slappy

So what exactly makes you think that if we all ignored you the first time that were gonna give a crap this time?

hmmm....i'm hurt..

stangspeed · 11-17-2005, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by slappy

So what exactly makes you think that if we all ignored you the first time that were gonna give a crap this time?

Cruel but Priceless!!!!!

11-17-2005, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by 4.6 Love

hmmm....i'm hurt..

Awwwww im sorry there buddy. Sometimes when i see a shot, i cant help but take it. ROFL

MachGT · 11-18-2005, 05:44 AM

What kind of idiot would put one of those on a GT????

Oh, wait a second!

B-rett · 11-18-2005, 06:25 AM

yea at one point in my life i will def have to put the mach hood and shaker on my car

*4.6 Love* · 11-18-2005, 09:25 AM

are you guys putting them on for looks or for power?

11-16-2005, 02:59 PM	#1 (permalink)
MAD SAMURAI Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: BELLA VISTA AR. Posts: 36	Cdc Shaker Hey guys, anyone have any experience with the shaker system for sale on this site? Besides looking good, are there any real performance gains from this. Is it the same system that is on the Mach I. Also, how hard is it to install? Thanks for any help/info you can give.

11-16-2005, 03:02 PM	#2 (permalink)
4.6 Love Super Moderator Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Mexico Posts: 6,154	Its just for looks.... __________________ Go Cowboys! X pipe and flows

11-16-2005, 06:24 PM	#7 (permalink)
stangspeed Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 464	Speaking of "ram air" What do you think the benefits would be to adding a ram air kit to ones car? Is it worth it? I have been pondering this for a week now, and would like someone else's opinion before I spend $120.00 on a kit. __________________ 2000-Mustang 4.6L :Hurst Billet/Plus shifter, Steeda 3.73 gears, Sprangz Double D, BBK 75mm throttle body, C&L Trueflow Intake Plenum, Magna Flow Tru-X no cats, Magna Flow Cat Back, Demolet Cold Air Intake, Hypertech III, Coil-Over Plasma Booster, Kenny Brown Sub-frames"welded", Kenny Brown frame & rear tower braces, 4pt. G-load brace, FFRP Aluminum drive-shaft. Soon to come: "Building a 347 stroker"

11-16-2005, 06:28 PM	#8 (permalink)
Lances03SVT Super Moderator Join Date: May 2005 Location: Carthage, Missouri Posts: 9,246	They don't work at all.There are some very long threads about them on some other forums.Alot of people wasted money on the "Ram-Air" TA's it was all tune. __________________ _______________________ 2003 Cobra SOLD

11-16-2005, 06:57 PM	#11 (permalink)
stangspeed Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 464	Ya I see your point..The whole air thing has been puzzling me.. I thought with my air filter down below my light would breathe more air, but I ended up cutting the pipe for a more straight shot version. So the air still travels up the same path Im sure, but didnt know if by have a tube going directly from the front of the car to the filter would help much..I also can see where higher speeds would benefit, as opposed to short runs from light to light...I too would be curious to see if it worked by way of a gauge..How would you set that up? Doesnt it have a sensor? __________________ 2000-Mustang 4.6L :Hurst Billet/Plus shifter, Steeda 3.73 gears, Sprangz Double D, BBK 75mm throttle body, C&L Trueflow Intake Plenum, Magna Flow Tru-X no cats, Magna Flow Cat Back, Demolet Cold Air Intake, Hypertech III, Coil-Over Plasma Booster, Kenny Brown Sub-frames"welded", Kenny Brown frame & rear tower braces, 4pt. G-load brace, FFRP Aluminum drive-shaft. Soon to come: "Building a 347 stroker"

11-16-2005, 05:21 PM	#3 (permalink)
jjtgiants jjtgiants Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Dublin, CA Posts: 3,762	I don't know what performance gain you can get from adding one to your car if any at all, but I know when I fire my Mach up I can hear air suck through the shaker, so on my car I don't think it's just for looks. I believe Scott Hoag, the guy who designed the Mach 1 said you don't start seeing any performance gain from the shaker until after 70mph. For what it's worth its a pretty freaking cool looking!

11-16-2005, 05:30 PM	#4 (permalink)
MAD SAMURAI Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: BELLA VISTA AR. Posts: 36	Yeah...I think it looks awesome!! I'm gonna have a little extra $$ floating around for x-mas. I'm just not sure where I want to put it.

11-16-2005, 05:40 PM	#5 (permalink)
jjtgiants jjtgiants Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Dublin, CA Posts: 3,762	I guess it just depends what your looking for. If you want a performance mod, the shaker probably isn't going to do anything for you.....if you want a "look cool" mod then this might be the one. It just depends what you want to do with the car. I think there is another guy on this website that put the shaker system on his GT so maybe he'll chime in.

11-16-2005, 07:08 PM	#12 (permalink)
Lances03SVT Super Moderator Join Date: May 2005 Location: Carthage, Missouri Posts: 9,246	Here is a long thread about it. http://www.allfordmustangs.com/forum...ad.php?t=18409 __________________ _______________________ 2003 Cobra SOLD

11-16-2005, 07:17 PM	#13 (permalink)
stangspeed Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 464	The jury is ajourned....Thks.... __________________ 2000-Mustang 4.6L :Hurst Billet/Plus shifter, Steeda 3.73 gears, Sprangz Double D, BBK 75mm throttle body, C&L Trueflow Intake Plenum, Magna Flow Tru-X no cats, Magna Flow Cat Back, Demolet Cold Air Intake, Hypertech III, Coil-Over Plasma Booster, Kenny Brown Sub-frames"welded", Kenny Brown frame & rear tower braces, 4pt. G-load brace, FFRP Aluminum drive-shaft. Soon to come: "Building a 347 stroker"

11-17-2005, 08:01 AM	#14 (permalink)
B-rett BMC Member# 03209 Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: north ridgeville, ohio Posts: 1,639	speaking of the shaker.........wouldnt u have to buy a mach 1 hood if you bought the shaker system 2 get the 3 different levels of the mach 1 hood??????i dont see the shaker looking right coming out of a gt hood....... __________________ ---35th Anniversary--- 265 rwhp 288 rwtq

11-17-2005, 09:37 AM	#15 (permalink)
jjtgiants jjtgiants Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Dublin, CA Posts: 3,762	I think slappy is probably right about the aerodynamics of the hood and the shaker....but that's probably why the hood of the mach 1 is different than the GT hood. They have a shaker extension kit that raises it a 1/4 inch or something close to that....I don't know if it helps, but it probably looks cool. I'm pretty sure I've seen instructions somewhere that showed you how to use the existing GT hood while cutting a perfect "hole" to fit the shaker. I'm pretty sure you can also buy the hood, but then your talking about a $1,700 (at least) mod that more than likely won't get you any HP, but will look pretty cool I guess.

11-17-2005, 11:25 AM	#17 (permalink)
4.6 Love Super Moderator Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Mexico Posts: 6,154	I will say it again, if you are adding a shaker on a 2v in hopes of gaining power you are wasting your time...we all know how much power ram air gives.. __________________ Go Cowboys! X pipe and flows

11-17-2005, 12:05 PM	#19 (permalink)
B-rett BMC Member# 03209 Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: north ridgeville, ohio Posts: 1,639	alrite so there is a piece you can put on ur gt hood that gives it that 3rd level cause without it i think it would just not look right __________________ ---35th Anniversary--- 265 rwhp 288 rwtq

11-18-2005, 06:25 AM	#24 (permalink)
B-rett BMC Member# 03209 Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: north ridgeville, ohio Posts: 1,639	yea at one point in my life i will def have to put the mach hood and shaker on my car __________________ ---35th Anniversary--- 265 rwhp 288 rwtq

11-18-2005, 09:25 AM	#25 (permalink)
4.6 Love Super Moderator Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Mexico Posts: 6,154	are you guys putting them on for looks or for power? __________________ Go Cowboys! X pipe and flows