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Danimal1209 08-01-2010 10:02 AM

What next?
 
Mods are in signature. Cams and longtubes are a little expensive and I am not interested in nitrous. I was thinking more along the lines of suspension and brakes.
The reason I'm asking is because since my car isn't too powerful I figure that some of the suspension mods won't really help too much. I was looking at the swar bar and some subframe connectors or strut tower braces. But, since you guys know more about this than me I would love to hear some input.

The car is mostly a DD but I like to take off from stoplights alot. I don't go to the strip but I may in the future.

Car is now lowered and I can feel the difference and I really like it. I was never really too interested with suspension mods but after seeing what they can do I definitely want to go that route.

r3dn3ck 08-01-2010 10:18 AM

suspension is worth more to your cars performance right now than a blower would be. You don't even know how fast your car is till you're able to really squeeze on it which your current stock suspension setup won't do well.

If you want the BEST mustang suspension you can get away with on the street get a torque arm and panhard bar setup from MM with their lower control arms and a full coil over setup.

Right now, I'd probably make sure you have a set of cobra brakes (trust me, you'll thank me) on the front.

After the cobra brakes, coil overs on the front. Then coil over on the rear, then new control arms in front then new control arms in back, then panhard bar, then torque arm. Doing in that order will make sure you feel a BIG BIG difference with each mod. Hell, it's no fun if you can't feel it getting better right?

I've been there, done that. Do those things in that order and you'll wonder why you didn't just ask me earlier.

Your H&R springs will retain their value pretty well. When its time for coil overs you can recoup a bit of your money by selling them. Trust me, CO is way way way better. You'll seriously feel the difference.

NoKturnaL 08-01-2010 11:34 AM


Originally Posted by Danimal1209 (Post 463562)
Mods are in signature. Cams and longtubes are a little expensive and I am not interested in nitrous. I was thinking more along the lines of suspension and brakes.
The reason I'm asking is because since my car isn't too powerful I figure that some of the suspension mods won't really help too much. I was looking at the swar bar and some subframe connectors or strut tower braces. But, since you guys know more about this than me I would love to hear some input.

The car is mostly a DD but I like to take off from stoplights alot. I don't go to the strip but I may in the future.

Car is now lowered and I can feel the difference and I really like it. I was never really too interested with suspension mods but after seeing what they can do I definitely want to go that route.


Get the MM (maximum motorsports) Full Legnth subFrame connectors ,they help "stiffen" the body. Probally a must for our cars. They will need to be welded on though. SO have a good shop install them.

NoKturnaL 08-01-2010 11:39 AM

I would save the money you would end up spending on suspension and brakes for a Vortech Supercharger kit..
after that yea...you gonna NEED better breaks

Danimal1209 08-01-2010 01:14 PM

Well, I just replaced the pads that were on there and they were almost completely gone. I got some random prostop pads from pepboys for $40 bucks and just love how much easier it is to brake with them. As redneck said, I think brakes should be where I go next. Even though those were just some random pads, they make a big difference, I can't imagine what going to a cobra setup would be like.

99MustangGT 08-01-2010 02:17 PM

You should deffinately get the cobra brakes on the front first. Hey r3d, I'm really wondering how much of a difference there would be between upgrading the front and rear brakes, than just the fronts.

01FR500 08-01-2010 06:41 PM

I agree that brakes and suspension should be next on the list. I think suspension mods are more rewarding than the typical bolt-on.



Originally Posted by 99MustangGT (Post 463573)
You should deffinately get the cobra brakes on the front first. Hey r3d, I'm really wondering how much of a difference there would be between upgrading the front and rear brakes, than just the fronts.

https://mustangboards.com/general-te...-find-out.html

You can only tell a difference at the limit, like durring an open track event heating them up a ton. I turn the rear cobra brake rotors blue, but I still use my HPS pads in the rear, Hawk HT-8 pads in the front.

08mustang_gt 08-01-2010 07:56 PM


Originally Posted by 01FR500 (Post 463580)
I agree that brakes and suspension should be next on the list. I think suspension mods are more rewarding than the typical bolt-on.




https://mustangboards.com/general-te...-find-out.html

You can only tell a difference at the limit, like durring an open track event heating them up a ton. I turn the rear cobra brake rotors blue, but I still use my HPS pads in the rear, Hawk HT-8 pads in the front.

+1.

For a normal street car fronts are a must, rears...mehhh.

But for looks and not having a stock caliper/rotor in the rear I like having both. But other than the big brake kits, the only rear upgrades are Cobra brakes or I think Baer makes a kit for 99-04s like I have on my 08.



Back to the OP, I'm 100% with r3d.

I can't tell you how many cars I've raced that just threw a blower or a shit ton of nitrous in and looked for the biggest dyno numbers they could get.

Little did they know, they still only get what they had before to the ground because they run on stock suspension...

I would call up MM and see what type of deal they can build up for you as far as getting a panhard bar, coil-overs, subframe connectors, and some control arms/torque boxes.

THEN you can go for power, and actually be able to MAKE that power on something other than a dyno.

r3dn3ck 08-02-2010 08:06 AM


Originally Posted by Danimal1209 (Post 463572)
Well, I just replaced the pads that were on there and they were almost completely gone. I got some random prostop pads from pepboys for $40 bucks and just love how much easier it is to brake with them. As redneck said, I think brakes should be where I go next. Even though those were just some random pads, they make a big difference, I can't imagine what going to a cobra setup would be like.

Fronts make all the difference in the world. Enough that you'll start to get worried about people tailgating because you can stop so much shorter than them. You can balance the braking with pad selection if you don't want the expense of doing the rears. I don't think the rear brakes are worth upgrading to a cobra kit.

If you want to upgrade go with the 13" kit from steeda/baer. No matter what you choose, you'll want some help selecting a pad combo that will keep the braking balanced something like you're used to.


Originally Posted by 99MustangGT (Post 463573)
You should deffinately get the cobra brakes on the front first. Hey r3d, I'm really wondering how much of a difference there would be between upgrading the front and rear brakes, than just the fronts.

Rear brakes do maybe 10% of the work so they're almost not worth dealing with. When/If you get a torque arm they become something more important as you don't have the same nose dive and you can use bigger rear brakes... to a point. Still, a standard set of rear cobra's and proper pad selection keeps me from getting in too much trouble.



Originally Posted by 01FR500 (Post 463580)
I agree that brakes and suspension should be next on the list. I think suspension mods are more rewarding than the typical bolt-on.

https://mustangboards.com/general-te...-find-out.html

You can only tell a difference at the limit, like durring an open track event heating them up a ton. I turn the rear cobra brake rotors blue, but I still use my HPS pads in the rear, Hawk HT-8 pads in the front.

I'd partially disagree. My stops are definitely shorter with the cobra kit than the gt kit. You can definitely feel it. That said, the difference is a car length or so from 60-0.

I use EBC yellow up front and either stock replacement or ceramic in the rear. I change to my Baer thick-cheek 1 piece rotors for racing. They take a LOT more heat. I also use ATE Super Blue brake fluid. I've not yet had any significant fade with this setup. Granted I don't really drive it anymore.


Originally Posted by 08mustang_gt (Post 463585)
+1.

For a normal street car fronts are a must, rears...mehhh.

But for looks and not having a stock caliper/rotor in the rear I like having both. But other than the big brake kits, the only rear upgrades are Cobra brakes or I think Baer makes a kit for 99-04s like I have on my 08.

Steeda/Baer 13" kit for 96-04gt's noted above is the one you're referencing. If I didn't have cobra rears already I'd have that just for the looks.


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