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r3dn3ck 01-01-2008 09:13 AM

this is why you don't take just any advice
 
http://corral.net/forums/showthread.php?t=981700

Nuff said. You'll see my response about 4th or 5th.

Steeda97 01-01-2008 11:38 AM

What an idiot!

Randy Stinchcomb 01-02-2008 06:15 AM

I'll have to disagree, it is NOT an issue deleting the PCV system and diverting it through the exhaust......

StormsGT 01-02-2008 07:12 AM

So,who's right and why?

r3dn3ck 01-02-2008 07:24 AM

deleting the PCV system is not by itself always bad but allowing air containing oxygen into the exhaust pre bank-1 o2, is going to produce exactly the same result as an exhaust leak. EGR only recycles air into the engine from the exhaust, not the other way around.

Randy, school me. If I'm off base, I'd like to know.

StormsGT 01-02-2008 07:44 AM

So, It would make the car run rich and kill off power?

Randy Stinchcomb 01-02-2008 07:50 AM


Originally Posted by r3dn3ck (Post 301009)
deleting the PCV system is not by itself always bad but allowing air containing oxygen into the exhaust pre bank-1 o2, is going to produce exactly the same result as an exhaust leak. EGR only recycles air into the engine from the exhaust, not the other way around.

Randy, school me. If I'm off base, I'd like to know.

well I dont know what else to tell you, this has been a hot-topic for sometime but most people didnt agree wth the vented-breather type oil fill cap, saying this lets un-meter air into the engine, causing a lean condition...now I never had anyone question the presents of more oxygen in the exhaust causing problems.....all I can tell you is it works, worked on my car for alot of years and many others who have done this too.....sometimes I think people over-analyze things to to fine a point wthout trying something out......like I said it worked on my car just fine and way before it ever saw a dyno or had a "tune":D

r3dn3ck 01-02-2008 07:52 AM

power wouldn't be an issue but gas mileage and emissions system component life would suffer. allowing an exhuast leak on a car with o2 sensors validating what a MAF is telling the ECU is just a bad idea. I've been playing around with the PCV system for 6 years making parts that won't screw stuff up. I've already thought out all the directions you can go with this crap. To think that you'd gain hp is ludicrous too. The one way check valve will close when the motor goes to WOT due to exhaust gas back pressure, which means that at WOT you'll have exactly no vacuum effect on your crankcase thereby nullifying the theorized gains from having negative pressure.

There's been a solution to this problem for nearly as long as there's been a crankcase. It's called a vacuum pump.

r3dn3ck 01-02-2008 07:55 AM


Originally Posted by Randy Stinchcomb (Post 301020)
well I dont know what else to tell you, this has been a hot-topic for sometime but most people didnt agree wth the vented-breather type oil fill cap, saying this lets un-meter air into the engine, causing a lean condition...now I never had anyone question the presents of more oxygen in the exhaust causing problems.....all I can tell you is it works, worked on my car for alot of years and many others who have done this too.....sometimes I think people over-analyze things to to fine a point wthout trying something out......like I said it worked on my car just fine and way before it ever saw a dyno or had a "tune":D

I had the breather setup cause a CEL and a stumbling idle (with associated lean condition). I had a tiny exhaust leak cause me to burn through a whole tank of gas in 90 miles.

Not saying it's not going to work for some but if one guy blows a cat over it then there's a problem.

Randy Stinchcomb 01-02-2008 07:58 AM


Originally Posted by r3dn3ck (Post 301021)
power wouldn't be an issue but gas mileage and emissions system component life would suffer. allowing an exhuast leak on a car with o2 sensors validating what a MAF is telling the ECU is just a bad idea. I've been playing around with the PCV system for 6 years making parts that won't screw stuff up. I've already thought out all the directions you can go with this crap. To think that you'd gain hp is ludicrous too. The one way check valve will close when the motor goes to WOT due to exhaust gas back pressure, which means that at WOT you'll have exactly no vacuum effect on your crankcase thereby nullifying the theorized gains from having negative pressure.

There's been a solution to this problem for nearly as long as there's been a crankcase. It's called a vacuum pump.

just not true dude....drag cars and other forums of "race cars" have used E-Vac systems for years and using these "1 way" check valves and they do not close at WOT, hell even Mr Gasket and Moroso sell E-Vac kits. this is just a simpler and cheaper version of an E-Vac version for those who have done the EGR delete and want to get rid of the PCV system.... dont knock it untill you've tried it:cool:


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