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03DSG 05-22-2007 02:09 PM

gear question...
 
so i've decided to not " fear the gear" anymore and i'm going to get a 3.90 gear set. I figure its best for my situation more that 3.73's but better milage than 4.10's. so my question is this, i know that gears dont make power, they provide a more efficant use of the power already at hand. so, what kind of speed increase is to gained. for example, say the stock gear my 1/4 time was 13.87 (totally made up!, i've never been to a track) and with 3.90 its now 13.16. is this posibble, I would think gears would make my car faster in that sense. am i correct?

StormsGT 05-22-2007 02:51 PM

That how they work. With 4.10's you should see .5 in the 1/4.So maybe a tad less with 3.90's.

dookie2365 05-22-2007 02:52 PM

seriously i ahd same ordeal and was gona go with 3.90s. jut do the 4.10s like i did. u dont drain gas or anyhitng like u think, infact i think city mpg increased for me.

MattJ 05-22-2007 04:30 PM

i gained .5 in the 1/4 from gears alone

Kains03GT 05-22-2007 05:57 PM

x2 4.10s

cre8787 05-22-2007 06:25 PM

gained .29 in the 1/4 with 3.73's. in my opinion, dont get 4.10's. even with 3.73's highway noise is a bit much 4 me. at 65mph im at 2700 rpm and it gets old after a while listening to the rumble. if you can take the noise, go 4 4.10's, they make a big difference, if not, id go with .73's or .90's, not as big a difference but still noticable.

v6'stang 05-22-2007 08:36 PM

what tranny is in ur car bcassette, auto or man.? engine? cre8787, if the rpm's are a lil too high for ya, get a diff. muffler, it'll quiet it up a bit. and that's only what, about 800 rpm's higher then stock? sounds like an alright tradeoff considering the advantages of the gears.

03DSG 05-23-2007 04:41 AM


Originally Posted by v6'stang (Post 264197)
what tranny is in ur car bcassette, auto or man.? engine? cre8787, if the rpm's are a lil too high for ya, get a diff. muffler, it'll quiet it up a bit. and that's only what, about 800 rpm's higher then stock? sounds like an alright tradeoff considering the advantages of the gears.

??? I never said anything about noise or rpms....that was the guy that posted before you said that, but if you must know I have a 5 speed.

03DSG 05-23-2007 08:27 AM

ok, so i just found out that the xcal2 does not have an end user option of 3.90 gears, it goes from 3.73 to 4.10. so my how do i fix my speedo with out getting a tune? tech support told me a tuner can set up any ratio i want, but i have to have tuner with the software do it, i cant.

dookie2365 05-23-2007 08:36 AM


Originally Posted by cre8787 (Post 264142)
gained .29 in the 1/4 with 3.73's. in my opinion, dont get 4.10's. even with 3.73's highway noise is a bit much 4 me. at 65mph im at 2700 rpm and it gets old after a while listening to the rumble. if you can take the noise, go 4 4.10's, they make a big difference, if not, id go with .73's or .90's, not as big a difference but still noticable.

i dont hear any noise, if you do, get a louder exhaust!

StormsGT 05-23-2007 08:50 AM


Originally Posted by bcassette (Post 264248)
ok, so i just found out that the xcal2 does not have an end user option of 3.90 gears, it goes from 3.73 to 4.10. so my how do i fix my speedo with out getting a tune? tech support told me a tuner can set up any ratio i want, but i have to have tuner with the software do it, i cant.

What year car are we talking about?

03DSG 05-23-2007 08:52 AM

03 GT, 5 speed

r3dn3ck 05-23-2007 10:29 AM

3.90 and 4.10 are so close together that you really should just ditch the 3.90's and go to 4.10. It won't make jack for diff in gas mileage day to day.

03DSG 05-23-2007 12:32 PM

i am slowly coming to that conclusion.......

v6'stang 05-23-2007 01:24 PM


Originally Posted by bcassette (Post 264233)
??? I never said anything about noise or rpms....that was the guy that posted before you said that, but if you must know I have a 5 speed.

re-read my post buddy. i addressed you, then i addressed the other guy, by screen name, right after i asked about what engine you had. lol. :poke:

03DSG 05-23-2007 04:40 PM


Originally Posted by v6'stang (Post 264295)
re-read my post buddy. i addressed you, then i addressed the other guy, by screen name, right after i asked about what engine you had. lol. :poke:

wo wo wo...buddy..in that tone i take it as if you're calling me **** face. please refrain from that.

v6'stang 05-23-2007 04:43 PM

lol, gotta love the toneless-ness of the internet. nope, not trying to be an ass, just tellin' a fellow forum member to re-read what i posted.

MattJ 05-23-2007 04:43 PM


Originally Posted by bcassette (Post 264248)
ok, so i just found out that the xcal2 does not have an end user option of 3.90 gears, it goes from 3.73 to 4.10. so my how do i fix my speedo with out getting a tune? tech support told me a tuner can set up any ratio i want, but i have to have tuner with the software do it, i cant.

Sure they do, I have 3.90s with my SCT XCAL2.

v6'stang 05-23-2007 04:44 PM

wait, is toneless-ness even a word? haha...

03DSG 05-23-2007 05:01 PM


Originally Posted by MattJ (Post 264341)
Sure they do, I have 3.90s with my SCT XCAL2.

hmmm...i called their tech support( at sct) and the guy told me its not part of the end user set up.

caballo 05-24-2007 09:20 AM


Originally Posted by bcassette (Post 264348)
hmmm...i called their tech support( at sct) and the guy told me its not part of the end user set up.

I call BS!!!!!!

You're gettin:boink:

StormsGT 05-24-2007 09:56 AM

This is you dude.https://mustangboards.com/mustang-cl...pp-4-10-a.html

cre8787 05-24-2007 10:19 AM

sry it took so long to reply. i have a 5 speed. i was talking about exhaust noise, not gear noise. Yea i guess its not that bad, too bad ford didnt put a T-56 :breakdancesmilie:

bassman97 05-24-2007 12:34 PM

Ford's T56 in the Cobra wouldn't make much of a difference since 6th is .62:1 compared to the 5 speed's .68:1. However, a F-Body/Viper T56 has the .5:1 6th gear which would be very nice but 1st is only 2.66:1 then.

r3dn3ck 05-24-2007 02:22 PM

the 2.66 first gear works very well with a 3.73 or better yet a 4.10 rear gear. with that combo you end up with a lot more grunt in the 3-6th gears and first gear becomes useful again. remember.. you need to match the gears in the diff to the gears in the trans for best performance in every gear. chebbie really outdid ford on that one.

03DSG 05-24-2007 02:53 PM


Originally Posted by StormsGT (Post 264503)

i saw that today, the only thing is i want timken bearings and AM doesn't sell that kit. in fact i called AM and i was told that motive no longer makes a master install kit with timken bearings and i quote "if they say the have timken bearings they are lying" in reference to me metioning another site that sold the kit with timken bearings. so I called motive to find out that yes they do still make a master kit with timken bearings. whats with all the BS lately. first sct now this...


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