what will it take

s281 saleen #230 · 06-17-2006, 02:15 PM

ok my goal is a 11.9 in the 1/4 out of my stock 97 saleen conv. which is now my daily driver. only has 29k on it to the engine and body so its perfect. i no im puttin a super charger on it not sure which one yet tho. so my ? is how much power do i need to be puttin down for my goal and which is the best way to obtain my goal. ps i dont want nitrous so dont add that into the mix

TEXASPAUL · 06-17-2006, 02:16 PM

how much are you willing to spend is a huge factor...
also what kinda times are you running now?

*4.6 Love* · 06-17-2006, 02:40 PM

Your first order of business should be to upgrade to PI H/C/I and then add a power adder. Good suspension mods. Slicks or drag radias with upgraded axles and hope your engine will hold....

*03gtmustang* · 06-17-2006, 04:02 PM

Its not so much as to how much power, but how well you can drive.

Saleen S330 · 06-17-2006, 04:48 PM

First build a 5.4 with forged internals, ported PI heads, cams, Saleen supercharger to make it look factory, bump the boost, headers, Hpipe, and a catback system, Tubular K member to drop some weight, upper and lower control arms, mickey thompson drag radials and a good tune.....

r3dn3ck · 06-18-2006, 08:39 AM

a PI swap will bump compression too far to make supercharging a good idea unless you swap in a whole 99-04 motor. You'll need to make about 400rwhp at 3400lbs with driver and fuel in order to see 11.9 by the numbers with a blower car. Better suspension and losing weight off the car makes it easier. You can do it with 350rwhp if you have drag radials or slicks and a killer launch technique on top of a well done drag suspension. Every 100lbs you lose from the car will drop your times .1sec.

I'd build a 5.4 with 10.2:1 compression, Patriot stage II ported heads, VT stage II cams, and a full coil-over drag suspension just like Saleen spec'd, put slicks and skinnies on it and learn to drive. If you can get a 1.6-1.7sec 60' time you should be well on your way without a blower.

To get high 11's on a npi car, plan on spending 10-15K on mods and installs. Add another 2-5K on track time to get your launch down and learn to powershift.

No matter what, you'll want to upgrade to 31 spline diff and axles and put a driveshaft safety loop on the front part of the driveshaft so you don't pole vault the car when you break a u-joint.

06-17-2006, 02:15 PM	#1 (permalink)
s281 saleen #230 Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: nj Posts: 57	what will it take ok my goal is a 11.9 in the 1/4 out of my stock 97 saleen conv. which is now my daily driver. only has 29k on it to the engine and body so its perfect. i no im puttin a super charger on it not sure which one yet tho. so my ? is how much power do i need to be puttin down for my goal and which is the best way to obtain my goal. ps i dont want nitrous so dont add that into the mix

06-17-2006, 02:16 PM	#2 (permalink)
TEXASPAUL official youngest member! Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 983	how much are you willing to spend is a huge factor... also what kinda times are you running now? __________________

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4.6 Love Super Moderator Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Mexico Posts: 6,127	Your first order of business should be to upgrade to PI H/C/I and then add a power adder. Good suspension mods. Slicks or drag radias with upgraded axles and hope your engine will hold.... __________________ Go Cowboys! X pipe and flows

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03gtmustang Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Northern Va Posts: 3,167	Its not so much as to how much power, but how well you can drive. __________________ D&D Auto Detailing -Dan

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06-17-2006, 04:48 PM	#5 (permalink)
Saleen S330 Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Sumter, SC Posts: 900	First build a 5.4 with forged internals, ported PI heads, cams, Saleen supercharger to make it look factory, bump the boost, headers, Hpipe, and a catback system, Tubular K member to drop some weight, upper and lower control arms, mickey thompson drag radials and a good tune.....

06-18-2006, 08:39 AM	#6 (permalink)
r3dn3ck Wowbagger hates me too! Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Magrathea/California Posts: 6,677	a PI swap will bump compression too far to make supercharging a good idea unless you swap in a whole 99-04 motor. You'll need to make about 400rwhp at 3400lbs with driver and fuel in order to see 11.9 by the numbers with a blower car. Better suspension and losing weight off the car makes it easier. You can do it with 350rwhp if you have drag radials or slicks and a killer launch technique on top of a well done drag suspension. Every 100lbs you lose from the car will drop your times .1sec. I'd build a 5.4 with 10.2:1 compression, Patriot stage II ported heads, VT stage II cams, and a full coil-over drag suspension just like Saleen spec'd, put slicks and skinnies on it and learn to drive. If you can get a 1.6-1.7sec 60' time you should be well on your way without a blower. To get high 11's on a npi car, plan on spending 10-15K on mods and installs. Add another 2-5K on track time to get your launch down and learn to powershift. No matter what, you'll want to upgrade to 31 spline diff and axles and put a driveshaft safety loop on the front part of the driveshaft so you don't pole vault the car when you break a u-joint.