i just cant drive

xlr8r · 09-18-2005, 04:38 PM

i went to the track today. something is horribly wrong. i went from 13.5s @ 106 and bald goodyear eagle f-1 to 14.5 @ 94.18 WITH SLICKS. how do you drop half a second off. i got better 60 ft times with street tires. with the slicks i would rev to 3500 and dump the clutch and get 2.00. i tried to feather the clutch and get worse times. and with the street tires i got 1.90, i wouldnt rev at all then dump and punch the gas. the track conditions were really ****y. 98% humidity, 130 deg track, 95 degrees, sun all day. i know track conditions can affect your time, but common a full second, then on top of that i had slicks and power shifting. i tried shifting at different rpms and launching at different rpms. i shifted at 5600 and launched at idle and the best i could muster was a 14.5. help me i was getting beat by stock mustangs.

Blue02GT · 09-18-2005, 05:34 PM

Were you spinning or bogging? What pressure did you run the slicks at?

Stangeralf · 09-20-2005, 06:29 PM

Wow sounds strange maybe slicks tire pressure has to do with it.

xlr8r · 09-22-2005, 05:05 AM

i started out at 15 lbs, spun all threw first. sliped and slid the whole track. lowered it to 10 lbs, sliped threw all 4 gears. went down to 8 psi, launched at 4000 rpms, sliped, hooked, bogged. then i tried 3500 rpms feathered the clutch hooked reved great and got my best 60 ft with the slicks. but the spun on the 1-2 shift then chirped every gear after that. maybe they are just crappy slicks. i dont know what the problem was. can the humidity cause that much of a change in times. the track temp was right around 130 degs. the only thing i cant understand is i was doing everything like my last time at the track ( 13.50 on bald goodyear eagle f-1s ) why is it so different? a stock 98 cobra was running 13.50 @ 103 all day long, he made me look stupid out there.

cobra4123 · 09-22-2005, 05:19 AM

i've decided i can't drive yet either... i can't get better than a 2.16 and avg 2.25 60's on street tires

*madmatt* · 09-22-2005, 05:54 AM

What about the burnout? Did you heat em up enough?

ThePunisher · 09-22-2005, 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xlr8r

he made me look stupid out there.

When I was at the track Tues., a guy in my car club with his 05 Roush converted Gt had similar comments when he couldnt muster any better than a 14.9.

Blue02GT · 09-22-2005, 04:27 PM

I run my slicks at 11 psi and heat them up pretty good, they don't even try to spin just grab and go. What brand slicks, size etc. What about the track conditions?

m0nkeh · 10-09-2005, 04:58 PM

after reading all this, i relize im a dumbazz and dont understand much of it, lol, of course i dont drag race, i got a stock v6 AUTOMATIC stang...but anyway I can learn the talk and etc...lol...this is my first car, and plan on getting GT in a year or 2, then modding that...maybe theres a dragfordummies book or sumtin?

Islander03GT · 10-11-2005, 03:01 PM

I'm having similar problems with Nitto DR's not hooking.

csledd · 10-11-2005, 05:07 PM

I dunno about you guys but with my NT-555R's I've never really been able to hook. With similar track conditions (hot as balls and humid) I can't launch any higher than 3k or the car spins and tries to get sideways a little. I got the best 60fts by bogging the engine a little by launching at 3k while dumping the clutch.

Blue02GT · 10-11-2005, 09:28 PM

I ran the last test & tune of the season tonite. I cut a 1.782, 1.831 & 1.87 on my Nitto's. I just sat there in second gear and smoked the living hell out of them for a good 10 seconds. That's 10 seconds after they began to smoke.

Best run of the night 1.782, 8.209 @81.96, 12.874 @ 107.20
Not bad for a 250 rwhp slushbox.

csledd · 10-11-2005, 09:31 PM

you always run good times! i hate you! lol im gonna try to do some test and tuning on friday now that is very cool outside

Islander03GT · 10-11-2005, 10:53 PM

Blue I gotta get my car running like yours....

can you break down your burnout procedure for me? I'd like to try and duplicate it next time I'm at the track... if I can get the nitto's to hook like you do I'd see an improvement for sure.

Blue02GT · 10-12-2005, 06:35 AM

I pull into the water until my rear tires are right in the center of the water. When they give the signal to stage I pull just out of the water, with the car in second (I have an auto) I smash it to the floor and hold it. I have my side mirrors adjusted so I can see the rear wheel wells. Once they start to smoke it will begin to bog and the rpm's will drop when they get below 3,000 I let off and smash down again to flash the converter. The rev's will go right back up, I then hold it while it smokes for 5-10 seconds. You have to really get Nitto's hot for them to hook. If you don't get good white smoke off of them they won't work. I run my tire pressure at 18-19 lbs and that seems to work best.

Islander03GT · 10-12-2005, 09:12 AM

Thanks I'll have to try it. A burnout in D isn't working for me.

09-18-2005, 04:38 PM	#1 (permalink)
xlr8r average joe Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: anchoage ak Posts: 56	i just cant drive i went to the track today. something is horribly wrong. i went from 13.5s @ 106 and bald goodyear eagle f-1 to 14.5 @ 94.18 WITH SLICKS. how do you drop half a second off. i got better 60 ft times with street tires. with the slicks i would rev to 3500 and dump the clutch and get 2.00. i tried to feather the clutch and get worse times. and with the street tires i got 1.90, i wouldnt rev at all then dump and punch the gas. the track conditions were really ****y. 98% humidity, 130 deg track, 95 degrees, sun all day. i know track conditions can affect your time, but common a full second, then on top of that i had slicks and power shifting. i tried shifting at different rpms and launching at different rpms. i shifted at 5600 and launched at idle and the best i could muster was a 14.5. help me i was getting beat by stock mustangs. __________________ flowmaster after cat exhaust, mis-matched cobra wheels with skinny 275s on 10.5 rears, and 7 years worth of crap stuck in the paint

09-18-2005, 05:34 PM	#2 (permalink)
Blue02GT Ex Mini Smack King Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: St. Louis Posts: 868	Were you spinning or bogging? What pressure did you run the slicks at? __________________ True Blue 2002 GT Premium 4r70W 1/8 8.205@ 84.780 1/4 12.874@ 107.20 Bolt on's n/a NMRA #7703 Dyno'd at Modular Depot 251 hp. 291 Tq. 4.30's, 3500 Stall converter, Steeda upper & Lowers, Tokico drag struts, M & M frame connectors, P & A valve body, C&L plenum, Accufab 75mm TB, Jet Hot Long tubes, Hooker O/R X, Steeda catback,SCT tune,Steeda pullies.

09-20-2005, 06:29 PM	#3 (permalink)
Stangeralf Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 50	Wow sounds strange maybe slicks tire pressure has to do with it. __________________ Black 2005 Gt 300 HP Ricers are like tampons.......every pvssy needs one

09-22-2005, 05:05 AM	#4 (permalink)
xlr8r average joe Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: anchoage ak Posts: 56	i started out at 15 lbs, spun all threw first. sliped and slid the whole track. lowered it to 10 lbs, sliped threw all 4 gears. went down to 8 psi, launched at 4000 rpms, sliped, hooked, bogged. then i tried 3500 rpms feathered the clutch hooked reved great and got my best 60 ft with the slicks. but the spun on the 1-2 shift then chirped every gear after that. maybe they are just crappy slicks. i dont know what the problem was. can the humidity cause that much of a change in times. the track temp was right around 130 degs. the only thing i cant understand is i was doing everything like my last time at the track ( 13.50 on bald goodyear eagle f-1s ) why is it so different? a stock 98 cobra was running 13.50 @ 103 all day long, he made me look stupid out there. __________________ flowmaster after cat exhaust, mis-matched cobra wheels with skinny 275s on 10.5 rears, and 7 years worth of crap stuck in the paint

09-22-2005, 05:19 AM	#5 (permalink)
cobra4123 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 826	i've decided i can't drive yet either... i can't get better than a 2.16 and avg 2.25 60's on street tires __________________ Vote for SkylerSVT on Stangette.com...... Just do it........... http://www.mustangtuningforums.com/s...ead.php?t=6045

09-22-2005, 05:54 AM	#6 (permalink)
madmatt Traitor...lol Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Lexington, SC Posts: 7,911	What about the burnout? Did you heat em up enough? __________________ RPMPlanets

09-22-2005, 04:27 PM	#8 (permalink)
Blue02GT Ex Mini Smack King Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: St. Louis Posts: 868	I run my slicks at 11 psi and heat them up pretty good, they don't even try to spin just grab and go. What brand slicks, size etc. What about the track conditions? __________________ True Blue 2002 GT Premium 4r70W 1/8 8.205@ 84.780 1/4 12.874@ 107.20 Bolt on's n/a NMRA #7703 Dyno'd at Modular Depot 251 hp. 291 Tq. 4.30's, 3500 Stall converter, Steeda upper & Lowers, Tokico drag struts, M & M frame connectors, P & A valve body, C&L plenum, Accufab 75mm TB, Jet Hot Long tubes, Hooker O/R X, Steeda catback,SCT tune,Steeda pullies.

10-09-2005, 04:58 PM	#9 (permalink)
m0nkeh Stang Love Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Deltona FL Posts: 1,073	after reading all this, i relize im a dumbazz and dont understand much of it, lol, of course i dont drag race, i got a stock v6 AUTOMATIC stang...but anyway I can learn the talk and etc...lol...this is my first car, and plan on getting GT in a year or 2, then modding that...maybe theres a dragfordummies book or sumtin? __________________ - 01 Gt Vert Black on Black - mods - SLP LM1 Exhaust

10-11-2005, 03:01 PM	#10 (permalink)
Islander03GT Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Simi Valley, Ca Posts: 717	I'm having similar problems with Nitto DR's not hooking. __________________ John V 06 Honda Accord SE- Daily Driver 83 Jeep Cherokee W/T- Off Road Toy 02 Mineral Gray V6 Vert- Girlfriends No more: 03 GT- The Problem Child

10-11-2005, 05:07 PM	#11 (permalink)
csledd DSG!!! Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Paducah, KY Posts: 3,074	I dunno about you guys but with my NT-555R's I've never really been able to hook. With similar track conditions (hot as balls and humid) I can't launch any higher than 3k or the car spins and tries to get sideways a little. I got the best 60fts by bogging the engine a little by launching at 3k while dumping the clutch. __________________ CAP DSG Registry 2003 Mustang GT - daily driven check out my cardomain for more info 296 rwhp / 310 rwtq Money spent @ AM: $4623.20 1984 Mustang Hatch - low budget project

10-11-2005, 09:28 PM	#12 (permalink)
Blue02GT Ex Mini Smack King Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: St. Louis Posts: 868	I ran the last test & tune of the season tonite. I cut a 1.782, 1.831 & 1.87 on my Nitto's. I just sat there in second gear and smoked the living hell out of them for a good 10 seconds. That's 10 seconds after they began to smoke. Best run of the night 1.782, 8.209 @81.96, 12.874 @ 107.20 Not bad for a 250 rwhp slushbox. __________________ True Blue 2002 GT Premium 4r70W 1/8 8.205@ 84.780 1/4 12.874@ 107.20 Bolt on's n/a NMRA #7703 Dyno'd at Modular Depot 251 hp. 291 Tq. 4.30's, 3500 Stall converter, Steeda upper & Lowers, Tokico drag struts, M & M frame connectors, P & A valve body, C&L plenum, Accufab 75mm TB, Jet Hot Long tubes, Hooker O/R X, Steeda catback,SCT tune,Steeda pullies.

10-11-2005, 09:31 PM	#13 (permalink)
csledd DSG!!! Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Paducah, KY Posts: 3,074	you always run good times! i hate you! lol im gonna try to do some test and tuning on friday now that is very cool outside __________________ CAP DSG Registry 2003 Mustang GT - daily driven check out my cardomain for more info 296 rwhp / 310 rwtq Money spent @ AM: $4623.20 1984 Mustang Hatch - low budget project

10-11-2005, 10:53 PM	#14 (permalink)
Islander03GT Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Simi Valley, Ca Posts: 717	Blue I gotta get my car running like yours.... can you break down your burnout procedure for me? I'd like to try and duplicate it next time I'm at the track... if I can get the nitto's to hook like you do I'd see an improvement for sure. __________________ John V 06 Honda Accord SE- Daily Driver 83 Jeep Cherokee W/T- Off Road Toy 02 Mineral Gray V6 Vert- Girlfriends No more: 03 GT- The Problem Child

10-12-2005, 06:35 AM	#15 (permalink)
Blue02GT Ex Mini Smack King Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: St. Louis Posts: 868	I pull into the water until my rear tires are right in the center of the water. When they give the signal to stage I pull just out of the water, with the car in second (I have an auto) I smash it to the floor and hold it. I have my side mirrors adjusted so I can see the rear wheel wells. Once they start to smoke it will begin to bog and the rpm's will drop when they get below 3,000 I let off and smash down again to flash the converter. The rev's will go right back up, I then hold it while it smokes for 5-10 seconds. You have to really get Nitto's hot for them to hook. If you don't get good white smoke off of them they won't work. I run my tire pressure at 18-19 lbs and that seems to work best. __________________ True Blue 2002 GT Premium 4r70W 1/8 8.205@ 84.780 1/4 12.874@ 107.20 Bolt on's n/a NMRA #7703 Dyno'd at Modular Depot 251 hp. 291 Tq. 4.30's, 3500 Stall converter, Steeda upper & Lowers, Tokico drag struts, M & M frame connectors, P & A valve body, C&L plenum, Accufab 75mm TB, Jet Hot Long tubes, Hooker O/R X, Steeda catback,SCT tune,Steeda pullies.

10-12-2005, 09:12 AM	#16 (permalink)
Islander03GT Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Simi Valley, Ca Posts: 717	Thanks I'll have to try it. A burnout in D isn't working for me. __________________ John V 06 Honda Accord SE- Daily Driver 83 Jeep Cherokee W/T- Off Road Toy 02 Mineral Gray V6 Vert- Girlfriends No more: 03 GT- The Problem Child

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