Powershifting
K..how do you do it..correctly?
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there is only one way.
Keep your foot planted on the gas and shift. You just shift fast likly you would when racing and instead of lifting off the gas when you press the clutch you keep your foot in it the whole time. here is a little moto i tell my freinds "Dont lift when you shift" theres nothing more to say thats all there is to it. |
+1 on your reply,,,that's how ya do it. However, if you have a stock T5 dont expect it to last a year if you powershift frequently.
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so what you need for it to last
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How do you figure that? unless you are making assloads of power its fine.
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I only powershift at the track and when I do it I can chirp every gear, but if I miss I bounce off the rev limiter :( Like he said, dont lift when you shift. it was scary to do at first because it just feels so wrong lol, but then you get use to it and it seems a ton faster for me.
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How do I figure that??? Easy. For one, the stock T5 is only rated to 300 lbs-ft of torque. With a couple simple bolt ons you are right there. Two, a stock shifter has no stops so frequent, repeat frequent, power shifts are gonna keep jamming the shift forks further than they are suppose to go. Three, an aftermarket shifter helps immensely cause of the shifter stops. And four, from experience. I grenaded 2nd and 3rd gear after a year of abuse. No biggy tho,,I was covered under warranty. That's how I know.
How do you make it last? Dont powershift it alot and replace shifter with an aftermarket shifter assembly.( hint hint MGW is the way to go. ) |
Originally Posted by spike_africa
How do you figure that? unless you are making assloads of power its fine.
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I just assumed we were talking about T-5's. If we weren't I apologize. Anybody wanna spot me 2k for the stronger T5 from G-Force transmissions???
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Originally Posted by csledd
He's speaking of the T5 transmission though, you have a different one in your car
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thanks! never new that...my buddy does it in his 4 cyl jeep everyday...lol didnt know it was "power shifting"
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Im curioius. Are you telling me this isnt going to send my rpms through the roof. Correct me if im wrong hold down the gas pedal. Push in the clutch with the gas still down and shift and let back out on the clutch.
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yeah, for a second
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Well thanks i guess.
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like I said, if you miss a gear you'll bounce off the limiter. So if you shift at like 6200 rpms it would probably be pretty scary. I usually shift at about 5500 so it gives me some room.
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i power shift
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Originally Posted by dom
i power shift
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another thing, when power shifting do you pop the clutch each time you shift, or feather it out
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I think I pretty much pop it cuz I'm trying to get it on and out as quick as possible... :tongue4: most likely it'll cause you to chirp every gear :)
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Keep in the mind one of the greatest downfalls with power shifting, is missing 3rd and putting it into 1st by misstake. Since your rpms are soo high, foot on the gas, and popping the clutch, you won't know you did this until it is too late. You could riun the tranny, the motor or both by such an event.
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luckily, I have an mgw shifter, finds third for you, guarunteed no third misses
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Originally Posted by SpringsStang
luckily, I have an mgw shifter, finds third for you, guarunteed no third misses
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yes it is :) in order for me to go from 2nd to 1st i have to hold it to the left so it wont go into third , its sweet :icon_thum
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Originally Posted by SpringsStang
yes it is :) in order for me to go from 2nd to 1st i have to hold it to the left so it wont go into third , its sweet :icon_thum
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Powershift only at the track or when you practice. During normal street driving shift normal.
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Powershifting is not for the faint of heart.
I can do it N/A but the T45 can't take it on the spray. Everytime I do it just scrapes. I can speed shift her but not power shift. You preload the shifter in the direction you're going (1st -> 2nd/ 2nd -> 3rd etc), and keep your foot planted on the gas and stab the clutch. You'll only spike about 150-300 rpms if you do it fast enough, just be sure to leave room before the limiter. If you powershift a stock tranny you're pretty much going to fudge it up eventually. Philip K. |
but when you got spray, do you really need powershifting? Like, w/ us w/ a few mods, powershifting helps a few tenths. but w/ spray, its so far ahead of us. :confused:
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yeah i love power shifting in my automatic ah hahaha
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also dont have the auto anymore nice 99 atlan blue v6 5spd
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I do a modified power shift. I really only power shift from 1 - 2. That's where the biggest difference is made and you really can't miss the shift. I too have a Tri-AX, but they aint perfect.
If you don't want to leave your foot on the gas stuck to the floor, then do this: 1 - Floor it. 2 - When getting ready to shift, lift off the gas and hit the clutch at the same time. 3 - The, stomp on the gas a split second before lifting off the clutch. 4 - When you lift off the clutch, bring your foot completely off the clutch. Let the clutch come up as fast as it possiby can. If you do this, you will easily squeal second and even third. If you are squeaking the tires, you are pretty much getting the best possible benefit from shifting. At that point you are becomming traction limited anyway, and right before that point is exactly where you want to be. I fyou can shift like I described, you will eventually work your way closer, and closer to actual power shifting. The next step would be to not lift off the gas as much and then eventually keeping your foot to the floor. If you can, find another car that you can practise on. I taught myself on a 120 hp 4 cyl. Car was slow as crap, but when you can get 2nd and third in a car like that, you are doing pretty good. |
I can squeal 4th in the Cobra...off and on the spray.
And she pulls like a freight train in third and fourth on the juice, MT's#1 knows what im talking about. ;) |
I can never get 4th to squeal and 3rd only when I really work at it. I think it is my 315's - LOL.
Nitrous is a lot of fun. |
I don'nt know guys Im scared to try it, it just seems like a harsh thing to do to my baby.
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I powershift a lot and my car is doing fine even after second to first powershift. Im gonna be honest it took me atleast three seconds to find out WTF was happening but if rev limiters could be broken mine would be.
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I don't know about the comments of the tranny breaking from powershifting. It doesn't seem like that should be a problem. Just don't downshift when you meant to upshift or go into reverse when you're moving forward and the tranny itself should be fine. What I do know about powershifting is that it's gonna put some serious wear on your clutch plate and flywheel. Expect to replace the clutch plate and throwout bearing and resurface the flywheel much sooner than you would normally have. I've heard it's a $600-$700 job at dealerships and most shops. It's also one of those things that, when it goes, you're gonna need a tow. The stocker might go 100k+ without powershifting but sooner or later, it's gonna go anyway. Powershifting is just gonna make that alot sooner than later. Of course, you can always use that as a good excuse to upgrade your clutch.
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as far as the T-5 being weak ill second that i put 218hp to the tires in my car and i exploded 3rd in my T-5 with out power shifting so........
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i dont know about you guys with broke t-5s, mine has 155000 miles on it, and i power shift it everyday. no problems. 295 hp 315lbs to the wheels. as for the guy that has the trans brake on his t-5, you dont gotta lie to kick it ;)
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i'm not that crazy about the tri-ax either. you don't need to beat the crap out of your transmission, just buy a good shifter and go through the gears as fast as you can. you'll get better.
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