me vs my friend

ames9153 · 11-01-2006, 07:50 PM

hi i was woundering if i was going to win a race against my friend he has a 2001 nissan maxima stock and i have a 2001 mustang v6 stock.

Blk02stang · 11-01-2006, 08:27 PM

Are both cars auto or manual? Also is the Maxima the v6 model or standard 4cyl modle? If it's a 5spd or Auto v6 model your more than likely going to lose. They run mid to high 14's in the 1/4 stock where as your v6 mustang is a 15sec 1/4 car. On the upper hand, if your friend isnt a very good driver you could very easily beat him, or if your not the best, he could smoke you. Best way to find out.......GO RACE and tell everyone the results, it's pointless to ask just go do it.

mustangvsix · 11-01-2006, 09:06 PM

they weigh in about 3200lbs and have 222hp, you weigh in about 3070 and have 190 so take a run at him and let us know how it goes.

littledonko · 11-02-2006, 03:16 AM

Make us proud!

03MustanGT · 11-02-2006, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Blk02stang

Are both cars auto or manual? Also is the Maxima the v6 model or standard 4cyl modle? If it's a 5spd or Auto v6 model your more than likely going to lose. They run mid to high 14's in the 1/4 stock where as your v6 mustang is a 15sec 1/4 car. On the upper hand, if your friend isnt a very good driver you could very easily beat him, or if your not the best, he could smoke you. Best way to find out.......GO RACE and tell everyone the results, it's pointless to ask just go do it.

No Maxima stock is pulling mid 14's . Also no Maxima has came with a 4cyl since the old diesel wagons. I know this cause I am a Nissan tech. The problem with those cars is they make no torque. The deciding factor in that race is if it is a SOHC or a DOHC. Look for a metal timing chain cover or a plastic timing belt cover. If its a DOHC you will have to beat him by out driving. If its a SOHC you'll have room to spare at the end of a quarter.

Blk02stang · 11-02-2006, 07:15 PM

My fault, I was thinkin of the Altima which you can get either 4cyl or 6cyl. Also the Max, did come as a 4cyl in the late 90's early 00 still...Friend had one in high school. And yes the newer v6 Maxima's stock are pulling 14's...it's called having a good driver. Yea they are an import so torque is where they lack alot.

Not trying to bust anyones bubble, but what is the point of racing two stock cars?? Is it for bragging rights betwen two friends or what...since i see it's a wasteful use of gas at this point...

03MustanGT · 11-02-2006, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Blk02stang

My fault, I was thinkin of the Altima which you can get either 4cyl or 6cyl. Also the Max, did come as a 4cyl in the late 90's early 00 still...Friend had one in high school. And yes the newer v6 Maxima's stock are pulling 14's...it's called having a good driver. Yea they are an import so torque is where they lack alot.

Not trying to bust anyones bubble, but what is the point of racing two stock cars?? Is it for bragging rights betwen two friends or what...since i see it's a wasteful use of gas at this point...

Your wrong Nissan has not put a 4cyl in a maxima since the 80's just to make sure I pulled the service manual. There was no 4cyl maxima.Just so you can see. http://www.dragtimes.com/Nissan-Maxi...m35-n1604.html
and here is a supercharged max. Thats pullin mid 14's http://www.dragtimes.com/Nissan-Maxi...eslip-954.html and your saying that is a stock time?

Blk02stang · 11-02-2006, 08:38 PM

ok, well if they never had a 4cyl in them, then why did my best friend in high school's '98 or '99 maxima come with a 4cyl from the nissan dealer????? Factory option maybe? Either way it's still a slow import either way you look at it. As for a supercharged one only runin 14's...that sucks im sorry. I watched 2 '03+ maxima's run 14.7-14.9 passes. One had a Injen CAI, the other had CAI/Apexi exhaust..both were manual also. Obviously whoever drove the supercharged one cant drive.

I'm not gonna argue the fact any longer, i saw the two run their times and was very impressed with a 4door family car running those times. But they are still slow so whats the point of arguing?

White04GT · 11-02-2006, 09:30 PM

I'm sorry, but I'm just going to have to call BS Blk02Stang..you can claim that all you want..a Stock nissan maxima doesnt run the 1/4 mile in 14 seconds..not even if its a v6.

dookie2365 · 11-02-2006, 09:42 PM

uhh maximas are pretty decent power wise....i woudltn doubt them beating a v6 mustang before then 05s. i had my 96 maxima with 190hp stock vs friends 98 mustang v6 n womped him

Blk02stang · 11-03-2006, 01:56 PM

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I'm sorry, but I'm just going to have to call BS Blk02Stang..you can claim that all you want..a Stock nissan maxima doesnt run the 1/4 mile in 14 seconds..not even if its a v6

Call BS all you want, go to the track and watch a few, maybe the boys where you are just cant drive! I know what the 2 ran i saw and there were several others present at the time that were suprised. I do know the two guys drove the piss out of them and were very good drivers.....Thats the key part...good driving means a better time than most. Dont rely on times posted on the internet, go out and watch a few run and see what you think of them.

r3dn3ck · 11-03-2006, 02:38 PM

mid 80's to recent maxima's came with v6's... 3.0 liter v6's with the oil filter behind the rear exhaust manifold. I know it to be the case as I have 3 very distinct "maxima kisses" from pulling said oil filters in a quick lube I used to run.

See...never take a techs word for it. They'll always assume they know everything and are always proven wrong on the minutae. 14's in the 1/4... maybe. That was a strong engine and a fairly light car.

03MustanGT · 11-03-2006, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by r3dn3ck

mid 80's to recent maxima's came with v6's... 3.0 liter v6's with the oil filter behind the rear exhaust manifold. I know it to be the case as I have 3 very distinct "maxima kisses" from pulling said oil filters in a quick lube I used to run.

See...never take a techs word for it. They'll always assume they know everything and are always proven wrong on the minutae. 14's in the 1/4... maybe. That was a strong engine and a fairly light car.

There is a reason why we assume we know every thing. Techs work on the same cars everyday. Thats what happens. I did do some more reserch on the subject. A bone stock 03 3.5 Maxima with the six speed according to the manufacter
pulls a 15.1 the 04's and newer are a 15.5, Due to the heavier car. These are manufacter specs. Numbers that very few people in the real world can ever duplicate.

PureStang · 11-04-2006, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by 03MustanGT

There is a reason why we assume we know every thing. Techs work on the same cars everyday. Thats what happens. I did do some more reserch on the subject. A bone stock 03 3.5 Maxima with the six speed according to the manufacter
pulls a 15.1 the 04's and newer are a 15.5, Due to the heavier car. These are manufacter specs. Numbers that very few people in the real world can ever duplicate.

this is turning into smack

so you are saying that a normal person cant pull those times on the same car? so ur saying that i cant get a 13.9 when a professional driver gets a 14.1 stock for stock?

03MustanGT · 11-05-2006, 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by PureStang

this is turning into smack

so you are saying that a normal person cant pull those times on the same car? so ur saying that i cant get a 13.9 when a professional driver gets a 14.1 stock for stock?

I do believe there are the factory freaks running around my own personal GT with a short shifter and a catback pulled a 14.0 but he was talking about almost a half second reduction in times. Just a little far fetched I would think.

PColav6 · 11-05-2006, 08:56 AM

http://videos.streetfire.net/search/...fe043dff0e.htm
Auto V6 Maxima vs Auto 99-04 V6 Stang

The only non-worthless mod on either car was that the Stang had 25% UDPs, but I'm sure that doesn't make a huge diff anyway.

I'm going to go with the Mustang, just make sure you turn O/D off..

r3dn3ck · 11-05-2006, 09:12 AM

Looks like a close to even match. Mustang still won and it seemed to pull on the maxima in the upper RPM's of every gear.

WaterDR · 11-05-2006, 05:08 PM

I have no clue what a Maxima pulls....nor do I care, but before everyone starts to turn into enemies, ask yourself this question:

"Is fighting over how fast a slow-ass car is worth fighting over?"

Blk02stang · 11-05-2006, 07:36 PM

Sadly I was at the track today and saw a couple newer v6 maxima's run....even lower then 14's with a few bolt-ons! One went 13.4, another went 13.6 and the last one was a 14.1!! Sadly...the quicker of the 3 had a CAI/Catback/ Jim Wolf tune/ and was one 19's!!!!

jeredan2003 · 11-06-2006, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Blk02stang

Sadly I was at the track today and saw a couple newer v6 maxima's run....even lower then 14's with a few bolt-ons! One went 13.4, another went 13.6 and the last one was a 14.1!! Sadly...the quicker of the 3 had a CAI/Catback/ Jim Wolf tune/ and was one 19's!!!!

isnt a 13.4 more like what an LS1 camaro would run? I dont see a maxima with a "few bolt ons" ever running lower than a 14.5. It doesnt add up, those cars are slow as balls.

r3dn3ck · 11-06-2006, 02:43 PM

it would seem that balls have sped up since you last checked. and yeah... I'ma haffa call BS on the pure NA low 13's. They HAD to be using nitrous. A stock 99+ GT would totally blow past a maxima and a camaro is faster than a stock 99+ GT so I don't see a pure NA maxi-pad making low 13's without a power adder.

Blk02stang · 11-06-2006, 08:18 PM

It's very possible they could have had the n2o on them, but i cant 100% rule it out. I saw under the hood of both cars runnin 13's and i didnt see any kind of n2o set up, unless it was hidden well like mine is. The one running 13.4's had his trunk open also and no bottle there either...as for the interior was a bit stripped out too. Either way, they rolled out good and was very impressive....untill they lined up against a blue Mach 1 that was spankin most of the import cars in that class. Mustang FTW!!

03MustanGT · 11-06-2006, 08:31 PM

So where they the mythical 4cyl Maxima?

11-01-2006, 07:50 PM	#1 (permalink)
ames9153 Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 1	me vs my friend hi i was woundering if i was going to win a race against my friend he has a 2001 nissan maxima stock and i have a 2001 mustang v6 stock.

11-01-2006, 08:27 PM	#2 (permalink)
Blk02stang I 8urvtec!! Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Va Posts: 815	Are both cars auto or manual? Also is the Maxima the v6 model or standard 4cyl modle? If it's a 5spd or Auto v6 model your more than likely going to lose. They run mid to high 14's in the 1/4 stock where as your v6 mustang is a 15sec 1/4 car. On the upper hand, if your friend isnt a very good driver you could very easily beat him, or if your not the best, he could smoke you. Best way to find out.......GO RACE and tell everyone the results, it's pointless to ask just go do it. __________________ New toys '07 F-150 black on black and completely blacked out! '96 Mitsu eclipse RS: 'jus your average 2nd gen with a small block 331c.i. and a few bolt-on goodies(175shot) and rwd...1st one to be done! SOLD 2004 GT Annv. edition. Custom Exhaust: o/r X pipe: Eibach Sportline full suspension: Clutchmasters stage 4 clutch: K&N filter: Steeda Tri-ax shifter: Mach 1 shift knob: BFG Drag radials: Compucar "nitrous-n-a-bag" 80-shot Stage I, Compucar Wet kit 125shot stage II

11-01-2006, 09:06 PM	#3 (permalink)
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11-02-2006, 07:15 PM	#6 (permalink)
Blk02stang I 8urvtec!! Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Va Posts: 815	My fault, I was thinkin of the Altima which you can get either 4cyl or 6cyl. Also the Max, did come as a 4cyl in the late 90's early 00 still...Friend had one in high school. And yes the newer v6 Maxima's stock are pulling 14's...it's called having a good driver. Yea they are an import so torque is where they lack alot. Not trying to bust anyones bubble, but what is the point of racing two stock cars?? Is it for bragging rights betwen two friends or what...since i see it's a wasteful use of gas at this point... __________________ New toys '07 F-150 black on black and completely blacked out! '96 Mitsu eclipse RS: 'jus your average 2nd gen with a small block 331c.i. and a few bolt-on goodies(175shot) and rwd...1st one to be done! SOLD 2004 GT Annv. edition. Custom Exhaust: o/r X pipe: Eibach Sportline full suspension: Clutchmasters stage 4 clutch: K&N filter: Steeda Tri-ax shifter: Mach 1 shift knob: BFG Drag radials: Compucar "nitrous-n-a-bag" 80-shot Stage I, Compucar Wet kit 125shot stage II

11-02-2006, 08:38 PM	#8 (permalink)
Blk02stang I 8urvtec!! Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Va Posts: 815	ok, well if they never had a 4cyl in them, then why did my best friend in high school's '98 or '99 maxima come with a 4cyl from the nissan dealer????? Factory option maybe? Either way it's still a slow import either way you look at it. As for a supercharged one only runin 14's...that sucks im sorry. I watched 2 '03+ maxima's run 14.7-14.9 passes. One had a Injen CAI, the other had CAI/Apexi exhaust..both were manual also. Obviously whoever drove the supercharged one cant drive. I'm not gonna argue the fact any longer, i saw the two run their times and was very impressed with a 4door family car running those times. But they are still slow so whats the point of arguing? __________________ New toys '07 F-150 black on black and completely blacked out! '96 Mitsu eclipse RS: 'jus your average 2nd gen with a small block 331c.i. and a few bolt-on goodies(175shot) and rwd...1st one to be done! SOLD 2004 GT Annv. edition. Custom Exhaust: o/r X pipe: Eibach Sportline full suspension: Clutchmasters stage 4 clutch: K&N filter: Steeda Tri-ax shifter: Mach 1 shift knob: BFG Drag radials: Compucar "nitrous-n-a-bag" 80-shot Stage I, Compucar Wet kit 125shot stage II

11-02-2006, 09:30 PM	#9 (permalink)
White04GT Procharged Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Kingwood, Tx. Posts: 990	I'm sorry, but I'm just going to have to call BS Blk02Stang..you can claim that all you want..a Stock nissan maxima doesnt run the 1/4 mile in 14 seconds..not even if its a v6. __________________ 2004 White GT just another Procharged GT. 401rwhp/407rwtq 8#'s in hot texas summer heat, built auto transmission.

11-02-2006, 09:42 PM	#10 (permalink)
dookie2365 has no legs Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 472	uhh maximas are pretty decent power wise....i woudltn doubt them beating a v6 mustang before then 05s. i had my 96 maxima with 190hp stock vs friends 98 mustang v6 n womped him __________________ [font="Impact"]2003 Mustang GT - 5-speed -BBK CAI -Magnapack CB -SLP o/r X -SLP longtube headers -Accufab 70mm tb & plenum -Steeda Underdrive pullies -FRPP 4.10s -Tokico Shocks, Struts, Springs -Steeda Tri-Ax

11-03-2006, 02:38 PM	#12 (permalink)
r3dn3ck Wowbagger hates me too! Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Magrathea/California Posts: 6,858	mid 80's to recent maxima's came with v6's... 3.0 liter v6's with the oil filter behind the rear exhaust manifold. I know it to be the case as I have 3 very distinct "maxima kisses" from pulling said oil filters in a quick lube I used to run. See...never take a techs word for it. They'll always assume they know everything and are always proven wrong on the minutae. 14's in the 1/4... maybe. That was a strong engine and a fairly light car.

11-05-2006, 09:12 AM	#17 (permalink)
r3dn3ck Wowbagger hates me too! Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Magrathea/California Posts: 6,858	Looks like a close to even match. Mustang still won and it seemed to pull on the maxima in the upper RPM's of every gear.

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11-05-2006, 07:36 PM	#19 (permalink)
Blk02stang I 8urvtec!! Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Va Posts: 815	Sadly I was at the track today and saw a couple newer v6 maxima's run....even lower then 14's with a few bolt-ons! One went 13.4, another went 13.6 and the last one was a 14.1!! Sadly...the quicker of the 3 had a CAI/Catback/ Jim Wolf tune/ and was one 19's!!!! __________________ New toys '07 F-150 black on black and completely blacked out! '96 Mitsu eclipse RS: 'jus your average 2nd gen with a small block 331c.i. and a few bolt-on goodies(175shot) and rwd...1st one to be done! SOLD 2004 GT Annv. edition. Custom Exhaust: o/r X pipe: Eibach Sportline full suspension: Clutchmasters stage 4 clutch: K&N filter: Steeda Tri-ax shifter: Mach 1 shift knob: BFG Drag radials: Compucar "nitrous-n-a-bag" 80-shot Stage I, Compucar Wet kit 125shot stage II

11-06-2006, 02:43 PM	#21 (permalink)
r3dn3ck Wowbagger hates me too! Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Magrathea/California Posts: 6,858	it would seem that balls have sped up since you last checked. and yeah... I'ma haffa call BS on the pure NA low 13's. They HAD to be using nitrous. A stock 99+ GT would totally blow past a maxima and a camaro is faster than a stock 99+ GT so I don't see a pure NA maxi-pad making low 13's without a power adder.

11-06-2006, 08:18 PM	#22 (permalink)
Blk02stang I 8urvtec!! Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Va Posts: 815	It's very possible they could have had the n2o on them, but i cant 100% rule it out. I saw under the hood of both cars runnin 13's and i didnt see any kind of n2o set up, unless it was hidden well like mine is. The one running 13.4's had his trunk open also and no bottle there either...as for the interior was a bit stripped out too. Either way, they rolled out good and was very impressive....untill they lined up against a blue Mach 1 that was spankin most of the import cars in that class. Mustang FTW!! __________________ New toys '07 F-150 black on black and completely blacked out! '96 Mitsu eclipse RS: 'jus your average 2nd gen with a small block 331c.i. and a few bolt-on goodies(175shot) and rwd...1st one to be done! SOLD 2004 GT Annv. edition. Custom Exhaust: o/r X pipe: Eibach Sportline full suspension: Clutchmasters stage 4 clutch: K&N filter: Steeda Tri-ax shifter: Mach 1 shift knob: BFG Drag radials: Compucar "nitrous-n-a-bag" 80-shot Stage I, Compucar Wet kit 125shot stage II

11-06-2006, 08:31 PM	#23 (permalink)
03MustanGT Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Puyallup Washington Posts: 67	So where they the mythical 4cyl Maxima?