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swervo 06-10-2006 11:49 PM


Originally Posted by dannyb785
Jon, you dont even have LT's. I dont remember, do you have a tb/plenum? I honestly just dont remember, but I'm hopin r3dn3ck can chime in here and say that intake, exhaust, and gears can get you into the 12's. How was your traction? Are 60' times affected by elevation? It all just seems too good to be true. I mean, swervo ran low 13's on dr's and he's near 300 rwhp. I wonder how correct the sae thing is

Actually I ran low 13's on my old BFG KDWS that came with the car. If I had DR's I would be in the 12's.

swervo 06-10-2006 11:50 PM


Originally Posted by MattJ
Ive always said SAE is cheater setup. Anyone can throw out some low ass SAE numbers. Personally, I dont post any SAE things because your time is so reducted by it. Anything I post is real world numbers that im running, on whatever day/temp/track blah blah.

:stupid:

jeredan2003 06-11-2006 12:11 AM

I really dont understanbd the whole SAE Corrected stuff.....I mean, how do you run a 12.8 when your time slip says 14.6?? I mean, not flaming or anything, but if hes running 12.8s then I guess im running 11's?:pepper: I just hope you dont go around telling people it runs 12.8s......I rode in a GT tonight with 4:10s and it was WAY faster than my car on motor! I mean it felt so much quicker from a dead stop. I need gears badly......

Glad your taking your time with the nitrous........Dont spray out of the hole.....:wallbash:

csledd 06-11-2006 12:16 AM

well its like when dyno numbers are SAE corrected. it'll either add or take away horsepower depending on the atmosphereic conditions at the time. the question is.. how do you really know its accurate, because it's just taking the number you put down and the numbers from the atmosphere and calculating them to get some other number thats suppose to be your horsepower if we lived in perfect conditions? lol who knows.

when i go to the track i just compare it to what other cars are running to see ifim where i should be or not.

Badfish 06-11-2006 01:08 AM

lol..."really dont understanbd the whole SAE Corrected stuff"

how does that make sense? are you being serious, do you really not get the concept of thinner air up here? you dont think it makes a difference? ..when you talk to local people n stuff...sure I'll tell them exactly what i got...14.6..

but If you didn't know who i was or where i lived and i said on the net: "here are my mods I ran a 14.6" ... people will be like, damn, talk about slow

sure r3dn3ck it's easy to disregard SAE when you live in a place where the biggest hill in the state is the garbage dump (true in FLA)

Bandimere Speedway is at five thousand eight hundred feet ...so I corrected it to give myself and others more of an idea of what i'd be running if it were an even playing feild...

I really don't care about "internet times"...like I said...just to give myself and others an idea...

csledd 06-11-2006 01:27 AM

yeah.. that goes back to what I said.. it's super hard to compare numbers on the net. If im still beating LS1's at the track then I know I'm where I'm suppose to be lol

SpinMedia 06-11-2006 01:42 AM

Jon i know you have a fast car and all, but im going to have to call a BS on it till i see a real time slip, you have a fast car but 12.7s without the nitrous with those mods??, I go to the track a lot and i see people with those same mods and more running mid 13s.

Badfish 06-11-2006 01:45 AM

w00t i beat an ls1. ****, i was .4 away from beating a modded c5. he never left one car ahead of me

dannyb785 06-11-2006 06:20 AM


Originally Posted by Badfish
w00t i beat an ls1. ****, i was .4 away from beating a modded c5. he never left one car ahead of me


how "modded" was he? And remember, people can tend to really suck if they dont have dr's or slicks.


take me for example :foot:

JayC 06-11-2006 06:37 AM

Corrected track times are fine for comparing your car's performance from day to day. In fact the corrections aren't very accurate at the higher numbers. Therefore it's very hard for folks like Badfish to compare their performance with someone at sea level. So.......do I think Badfish can run 12's at sea level? I have to say "no way" based on his 60' time alone. A 2.10 60' is a soft launch at any altitude and you just won't get a near stock GT in the 12's without a damn good launch. Sorry about that, but your times are very respectable for the altitude...plus you got bit by the track bug..:punk:


Jay

96gtstang 06-11-2006 08:40 AM


Originally Posted by Jack The Ripper
Am i the ONLY one here who realized where he got the 300hp remark from?

lol....

nope i caught it right away--llol

Mug11 06-11-2006 09:33 AM

I'd have to agree with Jay, there is no way your car will be anywhere close to the 12's at sea level. The calculations are way off. You're probably only running, MAYBE a 13.7 at sea level, sorry badfish.

Jack The Ripper 06-11-2006 01:58 PM

Damn, if i ever go to the track i aint posting **** after reading through this.

Jon got the times by entering the into he had in at MPH, which is a pretty respectable site. He wanted to find out roughly what he might run at sea level. Up here in colorado when you have a low 14 second car or high 13 thats pretty impressive.
of course there are tons of parameters that would need to be in mind, but it was to give a general idea.

as far as 13.7 at sea level being the best he could do with those mods? are you ****ing serious? from what i hear on all the sites is that a good driver can hit 13.8-13.9 with a stock mustang gt with good conditions.

Its amazing how many people scoff at the notion he could hit 12's. I diddnt hear anybody out there saying **** to TrueBlueGT when he said all that is required to hit 12's in a mustang is a good driver aand 250hp.

I agree 12.7 does seem a little bit fast, but christ, any of you have a better equation than what is on MPH? then bust it out or quite giving him such a hard time.

being this high up at 5,800 feet definatly puts a hamper on the performance. He used a calculator off a well respected site and got those numbers. dont give him **** about it. come one, what happened to the support?

anyways, i dont see why he couldnt be in the low 13's at sea level with those mods.

jeredan2003 06-11-2006 02:30 PM

Reason why he cant hit low 13s or 12s is because of his 60ft.......:bash:
2.1 isnt gonna do any better than about 13.8-14.1.......but with those tires im sure with practice he can cut some 1.7s.....

Lances03SVT 06-11-2006 04:24 PM

I have been to alot of races latley and my buddy ran 5 times yesterday in Tulsa with the same Mod's as Jon and was running 14.3 and 14.2.I have run him in town and pull on him pretty hard since the TB/PL that he has'nt done yet.The temp was almost 100 in Tulsa yesterday!!

I got to the track to late to run or I would be able to see how much a difference the other Mod's I have from his make's.

I did race a 96 Vette and a Hemi Charger last night from about a 15 mph roll for each and pulled away from the Vette pretty easy but the damn Hemi kept up till I hit 4th gear.That thing had huge ass 22's on it too and was pretty quick.He would'nt race me from a dig though :(

JayC 06-11-2006 04:43 PM


Originally Posted by jeredan2003
Reason why he cant hit low 13s or 12s is because of his 60ft.......:bash:
2.1 isnt gonna do any better than about 13.8-14.1.......but with those tires im sure with practice he can cut some 1.7s.....


Exactly.....unless you're making mad horsepower you're gonna need a sub-1.8 60' in most cases. My car has ran 12's prolly 20 times , but never with a crappy 60'. Also I've had "corrected" times of 12.40's, but I can't claim to run 12.40's because my best timeslip says 12.89 :beerchug: And I'm not scoffing Badfish....he did a great job his first time out:clap:


Jay

Badfish 06-11-2006 06:45 PM

I just need to do burnouts...I was lightly spinning the tires....I'm saving the tread for nitrous runs

Badfish 06-11-2006 06:51 PM

I was talking to some guys who race up here alot, and the altitude DOES affect 60 foot times....2.1 is actually good for drag radials up here., it's like a 1.8 at sealevel...so at sealevel I COULD be running high 12's..low 13's... 1.6 60 foots up here are barley acheived by guys running slicks

jeredan2003 06-11-2006 07:00 PM

No, its not gonna work that way.......I think your car should be really fast.......but to tell you the truth.....what you ran at Bandimere is prolly within 2 tenths of what you would run at any other track......You just need some practice, its not the car or the altitude. 14.6 with your mods means you need practice nomatter what altitude.

Lances03SVT 06-11-2006 07:06 PM


Originally Posted by Badfish
I was talking to some guys who race up here alot, and the altitude DOES affect 60 foot times....2.1 is actually good for drag radials up here., it's like a 1.8 at sealevel...so at sealevel I COULD be running high 12's..low 13's... 1.6 60 foots up here are barley acheived by guys running slicks

Jon I hate to say this but with those mod's no way!!!

Now with nitrous yes and below.

Badfish 06-11-2006 07:09 PM

hm. i still think i would.

Lances03SVT 06-11-2006 07:12 PM

So did the other 50 guy's I saw run this weekend with the same or more mod's.

Jack The Ripper 06-11-2006 07:31 PM

so the general consensus is that altitude does nothing for the 1/4 mile run?

lol.....

uhh, that is pretty common knowledge......

JayC 06-11-2006 07:31 PM


Originally Posted by Lances03GT
So did the other 50 guy's I saw run this weekend with the same or more mod's.

Yep, so many think it's so easy to run 12's with these cars yet so few actually do it:nono: I couldn't begin to count the PM's I've gotten from folks wanting to run 12's, and I've been honest with every one of them. But you know, very few will make the sacrifices necessary to do so:D

Jay

Badfish 06-11-2006 07:41 PM

I would run 12's....someone pay for my gas to florida...and I'll prove you guys wrong :D

JayC 06-11-2006 07:53 PM


Originally Posted by Badfish
I would run 12's....someone pay for my gas to florida...and I'll prove you guys wrong :D

You know don't ya:bash: :D


Jay

Lances03SVT 06-11-2006 07:55 PM

Even at the WFC I saw modded 05/06's and ALOT of 99/04 GT's run high 14's and even low 15's.And that is guy's that have been doing it for along time.

I'm not trying to put you down Jon but it's not that easy to run mid 13's and high 12's without the proper mod's,alot of traction,and a great reaction time.I don't see it around here and places like Topeka and other NHRA sites in this area run very well there.I know guy's that run every weekend in the summer that would have a hard time getting high 12's or low 13's with your mod's.

Badfish 06-11-2006 08:00 PM

me running 12's is arguable...but mid 13's? no way man. why is it so hard for you to grasp the concept of elevation? i am running at 600 feet above a MILE HIGH....almost 6000 feet! there is only a FRACTION of the oxygen up here. and I'm running mid 14's UP HERE with a little better 60 foot...at sealevel thats low 13's, high 12's i dont care what the guys with GTs are running there..these are MY times

Lances03SVT 06-11-2006 08:18 PM

Oh I forgot you are DA Stang God LOL

Lances03SVT 06-11-2006 08:22 PM

And yes I know about elevation!!!

I'm just saying there is no way you would run 12's with your Mod's right now!!!


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