mcmmotorsports

Guys, as many of you know, Spin had some HID's for sale:

I bought them for $200 shipped. When I received them, I had no initial idea that these were NOT the ones that American Muscle sells, so, needless to say, I wasn't upset. HOWEVER, once I realized that they were not the ones that I was expecting to receive, I got concerned. I PM'd spin and he told me:

He admitted that they were NOT the ones sold here at American Muscle and offered a FULL refund.

He reiterated the FULL refund again in this PM:

When asked for his address his attitude changed:

Finally, his distributor must have sent him this form letter to PM me:

I filed a claim through PayPal but they decided against the claim.

For the record, here is what I paid for:



Here is what he sent me:



Here is his distributor selling the same kits on eBay for $138 shipped:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Xenon...76016103QQrdZ1

Notice how he (SpinMedia) turned his bulbs and ballasts around to hide the truth:



Guys, most of us are adults and can make our own decisions, please don't make the wrong decision and deal with him for ANY purchase.

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Jack The Ripper

Hmmmmmm......

Slither

Still does not make sense to me since you installed them and claimed how happy you were with them? I could totally understand if you opened the package and realized they were different and never installed them. But you saw they were different and installed them anyway? Made a thread about how much you liked them? Then went on Ebay and found something different and wanted a refund.

That is like eating a hamburger at Hardee's and realized McDonalds has their $0.99 menu so you try to get a refund on your half eaten burger.

Like I said..totally understandable if you opened it up and realized it was not what you wanted or you were misled in the purchase. You saw, you opened, you installed, took pics, gave thanks, then wanted a refund? That is where the confusion of your complain arises in my eyes anyway.

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Icefreezen

Spinmedia that was a d*** thing to do. Not only is it against the rules of the classified section to sell items as a way of jump starting your own business. You ripped him off royally and I hope you get banned for this. I cant even believe that someone off this board would do this.

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Jack The Ripper

I think MCM should have paid closer attention to what he recieved. it certainly doesent help his case that he raved about what a wonderful product he got from spin.

at the same time, spin, WTF is with claiming they are the same ones off american muscle if they are NOT the same ones? that is totally false advertisement.

todd03blown

uh oh......

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madmatt

Dont forget they arent bi-xenon ones like he claimed either Mike.

Dirtbag thing to do, Spin.

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SpinMedia

They are Bi-Xenon, your obviously just a dumbass and dont know how to install things. And Mike why dont you show the people the other messages you sent me?


I am happy with my purchase, especially if they last as long as they traditionally do. I was just a little curious about why the stories don't match up. We are still buds though. [/quote]

SpinMedia

You were 100% aware of what you got when you got them by the mail, Because clearly you saw the logos on the box, and that they came from xenonrider.com. You even contacted me about it, i confirmed to you that they were, and you even replyed with

"I am happy with my purchase, especially if they last as long as they traditionally do. I was just a little curious about why the stories don't match up. We are still buds though. "

If you would of returned it before you opened it I would of gladly gave you a refund as i still would of had a SEALED kit to still resell, not some opened useless one.

So to continue this, you knew what you got, and you liked it, and the quality, if some of you guys remember my old mustang I posted a picture of it with the stangmods kit I bought, and if you compare both from my stangmods kit (Which is the same kit mustangtuning resells) to MCM's picture you can clearly see which one is WAY better in quality, Reason why I posted it as the ones Mustang Tuning sells because they are the same exact thing and actually even better quality. YOU your self loved the kit and even wanted to buy foglights to replace your set of cyclops looking lights you have going across the bottom of your car.

The bulbs that are sold on www.xenonrider.com are an UPGRADED bulb which get the LIFETIME warranty on the bulbs, unlike his cheaper set with cheaper bulbs he sells for $140 on ebay. Reason as to why on his website the price is $200.00 which is the same exact price i sold it to you and you get the lifetime replacement on bulbs and all parts on your kit.


Slithers response is clearly correct on his part, you are a dumbass for what you did and dont get emotionally upset because it was your responsibility to search for the price and to claim the refund and wrong part before you opened it and wear it out.

Yes i did offer a refund if you were UNHAPPY, not BI-POLAR when you got it. You got it, loved them, and then a few days after you were UNHAPPY, thats an uncontrolable BI-POLAR ISSUE you have which you should see medical attention for.


If you order a plate of food somewhere, get the wrong thing, YOU KNOW its the wrong thing and the waiter even TELLS YOU its the wrong thing and offers a refund, BUT it looks good, you start eating it, enjoy it, and then later on find out that plate which you ate and was awesome is at a cheaper price somewhere els, You dont go back days after and ASK for a REFUND AFTER you have ate it. IT was your fault for eating it and enjoying it even tho you were completely aware of what you got and EVEN after they even told you YES WHAT YOU GOT WAS INCORRECT.

stang00

I think that what you did Spin was a little shady. When you posted the add in the classifieds you should have given all the details and not made them sound like sumthing they werent.

However, MCM you should have never installed them on your car if you knew he had falsly advertised. This is a lose lose situtation for everyone and the only way I see this being a fair trade is if you and Spin both take a bite and Spin returns you 175$.

I say 175$ it will now be harder for spin to resell them now that they are opened and he will wind up losing money. MCM because you went and installed them on your car a full return is not fair since they are now used.

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SpinMedia

I offered him a FULL refund BEFORE he opened it and was aware of what he got, but like i put above, he said quote "I am happy with my purchase, especially if they last as long as they traditionally do. I was just a little curious about why the stories don't match up. We are still buds though". He sitll then processed to install them on his car and he loved them but a few days later is when he became bipolar and because of that I told him id give him a refund BUT had to take 20% off as a restocking fee since the reason he wants to return them is because hes bi-polar and not because i sold him something damaged. For same reason stang00 said, he opened them and wore them out and im willing to bet they are still on his car right now. He refused it and tryed to make it a paypal claim and even paypal told him he was a dumbass and paypal dropped his claim within 5 seconds.

Please note also the reason why he wants a refund is NOT because of the great quality of the kit, but because a few days later he found a cheaper set on ebay for a cheaper price. Which isn't even the same kit, the kits I sell have upgraded bulbs which allow us to offer a LIFETIME warranty on the bulbs with FREE replacements on the bulbs if they ever burn out. I sold over 100 of these its and hes the first one to want a refund. A bunch of members even from these boards have purchased these from me and love them.

stang00

Regardless there was dumb decisions by both people here in this case. I came up with the 175$ refund because of the false advertising by Spin on the original add. You should always be honest upfront and it just seemed a little shady.

MCM you pulled something that someone at my age would i dont agree that you should get 200$ back because of the dumb decision to install them on the car. If you had bought them from an online company they would not even entertain what you are trying to prove and do.

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bikerjoe

mcm you gotta be kidding me ...danny dosnt deserve this ..he didnt do anything wrong from what i am reading.

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ChrisGT

Apparently you haven't been reading. The original ad was misleading, he didn't get what was paid for. They don't work on hi/low beams as was told. I'm not condoning him installing them even though they were not what he was expecting, just stating that "Spin" mislead his ad! THESE ARE NOT THE KITS SOLD ON AMERICAN MUSCLE/MUSTANG TUNING. I do believe he said that these were bought from Mustang Tuning to install on his car and now he is a distributor???????? There is deciebt in Spin's ad!

Oh, and enough with the personal "He's Bi-Polar" comments. You haven't a clue what your talking about. He has not attacked you personally. Your awfully defensive for someone who's done nothing wrong!

todd03blown

Ding Ding...we have a winner!!!


Great point!!

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SpinMedia

Bikerjoe ordered one of my kits and knows whats good in the hood :thumbsup:

madmatt

The story just keeps getting better and better...you're done my friend. Its one thing to smear someone's reputation on the internet, its another to scam someone, then change your story, but its completely different to make a personal attack like that. Have fun selling your kits somewhere else, just make sure you let the people know EXACTLY what they are going to get.

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Codiddy

Yeah i have bi-polar friends and i think it's unnecessary for you to keep trying to say this is just because he's bi-polar. Thats a serious medical condition and you shouldn't joke around about it.

Spin, you lied in your listing and were trying to jump start a business so you're in the wrong.
MCM you shouldn't have installed them when you saw that they were different, so you're in the wrong too.

I think you guys need to work it out between yourselves.

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White04GT

Damn Spinmedia you really are a bitch.

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GREG@SN95

Hm...

IMPO...

Spin did go back on his word somewhat... however It is understandable due to Mike suddenly changing his mind...

So I don't think neither one of you two are 100% at fault...

Spin sold something different to what he agreed to purchase...

Mike received it and had no problem with that... IN FACT he loved them...

What I think you should do is refund him SOME of the money so that your price will watch that of the ones he found on ebay...

IDK... I think both of ya are acting like kids...

JMO

Icefreezen

One thing I liked about our classified sections was that everyone was legit untill this d***hole came on here and screwed that up. Shame on you Spin.

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mcmmotorsports

Sorry that I haven't replied sooner, but I am out on the road and finally found a place to comment. When I received the kit in the mail, I was excited, I opened the box, installed one side and was happy at that moment. I went back in the garage, saw where the box had come from and started to put 2 and 2 together. Everyone here knows what it is like to get a new part for their car. These bulbs were no different. I have been wanting HID's for sometime and when I saw the ad that Spin put up for the MustangTuning HID's, I thought here was my chance to get them at an awesome price. Yes, I should've read the box and the return address BEFORE installing them, but, come on guys, he was a member with over 2,000 posts and his ad CLEARLY stated them to be the lights he bought from here. This is and was not an issue about finding them cheaper elsewhere. Anyone can find an item for less if they look hard enough. I wanted a refund so that I can take that money and buy the kit I originally thought I was getting. I had NO intention of getting back my $200 and jumping on eBay to get the same lights for $138. I was really shocked as to how far this escalated when all I wanted was what was originally promised. For those that support me, thank you. Consider yourselves lucky that this didn't happen to you. Do you really think that he would have given you your money back even if you sent them back unopened? If he was dishonest enough to misrepresent a product he was selling, chances are, he would've come up with some excuse to keep some of your cash too.

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03gtmustang

110% correct! The threads Spin started should have been closed immediately.

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