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Originally Posted by WaterDR
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I feel bad for folks in their 20's these days. First off, jobs don't pay shit. I will give you an example. My first job after graduating college and leaving the Navy (4 years) paid $65k the first year (that was in 1994). I had total benefits....paid for nothing and bought my first house when I was 25. It was a 2500 square foot, 3 year old house. I had no help from parents.....none. The house was $150k.
How many of you guys at that age now can say that? Most of you live at home with parents and many of you will for a long time because you are in debt up to your asses in college loans, houses are expensive, and medical insurance is high. It is REALLY hard to get started these days.
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Damn, 65k back during the great depression?
snap. lol
Yah i really lucked out in many ways. I was horrible in highschool, so i joined the USAF and they taught me telecom, my first job out of the AF was for about 55k a year, and i have steadily risen every year for the past 7 years.
A lot off my co workers are also ex military, some of my co workers actually got degrees in telecom, and it doesent earn them a dime more or help on thier resume whatsoever. However they have 30-40 thousand in student loans to pay off.
The house i have while not nearly as well designed and constructed as your new home or lances home is still pretty darn nice for the size and age it is. I have about 2,300 sqft ranch style, but im paying 225,000. i have been paying 4 years now and i still owe 215,000. Ugh
As far as going to college for 4 years and breaking 50k a year.... GOOD LUCK. Aint gonna happen 99% of the time, most college grads with bachelors are lucky to break 35k on thier first job.
Im a big advocate of technical schools and trade schools. Im not much for taking classes of stuff non-related to the goal, i do believe in a well rounded education, but i also think it is something you can achieve yourself without the requirements of taking 18th century russian literature classes.
Honestly, unless yer gonna be a doctor, laywer, or politician, college doesent seem like that great of an idea anymore, not enough pay in it.
One of my closest friends and godfather of my son, started oput working at the same company i am at as a customer service rep (phone jockey) and now he is a tech on the transport side of the house, he will break 60k this year, full medical and dental benefits, 401k, flex spending, etc, etc. has no college education.
My buddy creigan, no college education, just got his CCNA and got picked up by IBM as a customer service rep (he is basically the bitch of thier large scale companys, he is a direct interface for only 3 major customers), he will break 50k this next year, he has less than 1 year of schooling for his CCNA.
My buddy Justin, went to work for verizon a while back in orange county, breaks 65k-70k a year, he has his CCNA and the next level up, been doping it now for 7 years. No college
Myself, i broke 80k and i have no college, just military training on telecommubnications, my co workers all average 50-80k a year and very few have college. Most of us have been here for years, ive been with this company for 7 years and i know i can get another job at the drop of a hat in almost any telecom company out there. (mostly because they expect a lot more out of us here)
Then i have a friend Jen, 4 year degree, maybe gertting 30k a year as a techer
My friend Ian, will maybe break 40k next year, 4 year degree as well
my brother, bachelors degree, took him 4-5 years to break the 50k mark, i still make more than him i believe and he is a project manager at dell. lol.
All in all, college has the "POTENTIAL" to pay out a lot more later down the road, but honestly, i would rather make bank now, and STILL be able to go to college, or even swap to another technical dicipline in less than a year and know i will be making a buttload of money
college never made sence to me. takes 4 years to graduate, you have 35,000 in debt afterwards, and probably wont break 50 grand within the next 10 years.