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this thread some. As far as weight wise, our stock mid pipe weighs at least 50lbs, so you will loose a good amount of that if you go with an o/r pipe, as well as with a catted mid pipe because you will loose two cats. I have heard all good things about the MT X pipe, and also the SLP. I am going with the SLP due to the fact that I will have to do emission testing in 2006, so I will have to leave the cat on for that. With the SLP pipe, you can go with cats, or take them off and use the "race pipes" to go without them. Hope this helps some. The SLP is a little more than the MT but is all stainless steel as well.