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Old 03-23-2006, 08:38 AM
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:helpsmili Guys, how hard is it to change a fuel pump. My fuel pump went bad according to the dealer,(Sunrise Ford) and they totalled up the amount of about $750 to fix it. The fuel pump is $306 and the labor is 4.5 hrs at $83 per hour. And the fuel filter is $20 and they said that would take a 1/2 hour to put that in , yeah right.

Does anybody know of a link or something, or a book I can get so I can replace the pump myself. I'm not a great mechanic but I am a pretty good do it yourselfer. :helpsmili Thanks Mark M
 
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Old 03-23-2006, 08:45 AM
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i changed my fuel pump in about 40 minutes on my own with a jack. i'll find a link from another site with pics.
 
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Old 03-23-2006, 08:48 AM
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ok i found the link its pretty detailed and yes it is that easy. just be sure to ground your self to the tank before you wrench on it.
edit forgot the link http://www.dndgarage.net/focuspumpinstall.htm
 
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Old 03-23-2006, 08:54 AM
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It's totally doable at home.

306 for the fuel pump is ****** ludicrous. 4.5hrs is even more ludicrous.

Buy yourself a high flow pump (focus or aviator pump if you have a 99+ modular motor). they cost about 125 retail. Filter is 5 bucks. install is easiest with an empty tank. Watch the vapors and keep yourself grounded and you'll be fine.
 
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Old 03-23-2006, 08:59 AM
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Holy cow.. That's terrible.

Definately a do it yourself job (it helps to have a helper though).

Run gas out of tank (close to empty to make it lighter)- unhook battery

Drop tank, unhook electrical and gas lines (need cheap plastic tool to unhook the lines - can get at most auto stores or sears)

Remove pump from inside tank; unbolt pump from housing; install new pump ($100-$200 but recomend Focus SVT pump) reverse of the removal

Reinstall pump in tank (don't make any sparks when you put back the retaining ring)

Hook up electrical lines and fuel lines, put tank back where goes

swap in new fuel pump in front of tank (easy and costs $10 at autozone)

Hook battery back up; Turn key over but don't start, listen for fuel pump buzz, will be loud and then get quieter as lines pressurize.. .I think I got it all
 
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Old 03-23-2006, 09:05 AM
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1 typo 2nd from the bottom but other than that, that's how I've seen it go. swap in new fuel filter in front of tank... 10 bucks at any-ol-parts-store. Make sure you have the fuel line disconnect tool or you'll never get it done.
 
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Old 03-23-2006, 09:46 AM
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Thanks guys for the quick response. Keep the info coming if there is more to learn. I had the car towed to the dealer with AAA membership. I'll have towed to my home now with the same membership. But I'll have to pay the Ford dealer $83 for the diasgnostics. Thanks again, Mark M
 
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Old 03-23-2006, 12:55 PM
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get a focus fuel pump from randy for what 93bucks and do it yourself like they said.
 
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Old 03-23-2006, 01:17 PM
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Is focus the brand name of the pump? And who is Randy? Mark M
 
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Old 03-23-2006, 01:35 PM
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No, the SVT Focus fuel pump is a stock ford part number and is relatively inexpensive. It also flows like 230lph or so which is plenty for most streetable applications.

You can also use the Aviator pump which comes from... the Lincoln Aviator. It's in the same performance class as the SVT Focus pump.
 
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Old 03-23-2006, 04:02 PM
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I have done it on my Old SVO and its not rocket science just go for it.
 
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Old 03-23-2006, 04:26 PM
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I would do it for 150 + cost of pump
 
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Old 03-23-2006, 04:38 PM
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Anybody got the part # on the SVT Focus pump? Or What year Focus?

You mean this pump will fit and wire up perfectly to the Mustang GT? How about the Aviator pump?

I checked out the website Stanger sent me and I'm ready to swap that pump out, just need the part. Mark M
 
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Old 03-23-2006, 04:47 PM
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02-04 SVT focus. Flow is 190lph.
Aviator is 230lph and you can use any year aviator pump.

You can get them at rpmoutlet.com or call up MT, or call up my pals at Apex and tell Mario or Chris that r3dn3ck sent you. (408-588-0075) They have them in stock.

Yes. These pumps are identical in every respect except for flow rating to the stock unit in the 99+ Mustang GT and V6 and in 99 & 01 cobras.

You never told us (or I can't see it) what year and trim level stang you have. Important detail...
 
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Old 03-23-2006, 04:52 PM
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The car is a 2001 Mustang GT with auto trans and leather, traction control, 6 CD player mach 460. I think that's the interior upgrade package. Mark M
 
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Old 03-23-2006, 04:59 PM
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My God, don't pay a dealer to do this!

Buy the Focus pump....$125 or so. It will have to be modified slightly for your car and it requires dropping the fuel tank.

If you have ZERO mechanical talent, find someone on the forums who lives near you for help. This should take no longer then 2 hours. OR, find a reputable mechanic and provide them with the instructions.

Consider this, Dave Kauffman is installing my entire blower and intercooler which includes a focus fuel pump for $750. The trick is to have someone who knows Mustangs and appreciates this kind of stuff to do the work. Don't pay a dealer.
 
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Old 03-24-2006, 05:10 AM
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Originally Posted by r3dn3ck
02-04 SVT focus. Flow is 190lph.
Aviator is 230lph and you can use any year aviator pump.

You can get them at rpmoutlet.com or call up MT, or call up my pals at Apex and tell Mario or Chris that r3dn3ck sent you. (408-588-0075) They have them in stock.

Yes. These pumps are identical in every respect except for flow rating to the stock unit in the 99+ Mustang GT and V6 and in 99 & 01 cobras.

You never told us (or I can't see it) what year and trim level stang you have. Important detail...
thats not right the focus svt pump is rated at 210 and the aviator is 310. Its rated like that everywhere i have ever looked. But if they tested it at a low volt that would change it too.
 
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Old 03-24-2006, 07:59 AM
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That's what I thought but I got conflicting info so I defaulted to the lower rating.
 
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Old 03-24-2006, 06:10 PM
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What he NEEDS is a Walbro 255lph pump. It has worked GREAT for me! (flame suit on)
 
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Old 03-24-2006, 06:47 PM
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walbro are great. The only thing that stopped me from mentioning it was a note from my tuner that the returnless systems on 99+ cars uses a different mechanism to manage the fuel supply (one is fixed voltage the other is variable voltage) and they've seen an inordinate amount of fuel pumps burn up when used on 99+ cars. That may or may not be a real case but I'm giving info to a newb so I thought going with a factory ford part that's used on returnless cars would be safest.

I have a Vortech 255 intank but I also plan to go return style pretty soon and slap an A1000 on so I wasn't concerned with too much longevity for mine.

Now take off the flame suit and join the party. Even if your recommendations are biased toward what you use personally. I seem to recall reading your rave review of walbro pumps so why not assume you are actually satisfied.
 
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Old 03-24-2006, 06:49 PM
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How many GPH does a stock GT pump flow? Mark M

Oh yeah, what does it mean , "Ground yourself to the tank when replacing the fuel pump."
 
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Old 03-24-2006, 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by r3dn3ck
walbro are great. The only thing that stopped me from mentioning it was a note from my tuner that the returnless systems on 99+ cars uses a different mechanism to manage the fuel supply (one is fixed voltage the other is variable voltage) and they've seen an inordinate amount of fuel pumps burn up when used on 99+ cars. That may or may not be a real case but I'm giving info to a newb so I thought going with a factory ford part that's used on returnless cars would be safest.

I have a Vortech 255 intank but I also plan to go return style pretty soon and slap an A1000 on so I wasn't concerned with too much longevity for mine.

Now take off the flame suit and join the party. Even if your recommendations are biased toward what you use personally. I seem to recall reading your rave review of walbro pumps so why not assume you are actually satisfied.

Yes the Walbros are great! They just have a bad name with us returnless style owners. My pump is fine and Ive hd it on here for about a year now. I think its great but theres allways people that will say oh thats the wrong pump.......Thats why I put the suit on. I am not biased toward what I use. I am simply telling him what I KNOW will work. I havent tried the Focus pump. I dont know if it would be better or worse. So instead of bieng like everyone else who has had no experience with one and telling them to get the focus, I tell them about what I know works. Yes I am satisfied, If the plugs are black with fuel after a hard pass then im satisfied.........
 
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Old 03-25-2006, 12:02 AM
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Originally Posted by markm
How many GPH does a stock GT pump flow? Mark M

Oh yeah, what does it mean , "Ground yourself to the tank when replacing the fuel pump."
grounding yourself is important because you never know when you will have a static discharge. im sure you have grabbed something and got a little shock well thats good enough to make those fumes ignite. all you have to do is grab the tank and your good to go.
 
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Old 03-28-2006, 05:53 PM
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Thanks for all the help and info guys. I ordered a pump and I should have it in this Saturday . That's when I'll have the time to install it. Mark M
 
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Old 03-28-2006, 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by r3dn3ck
You can get them at rpmoutlet.com or call up MT, or call up my pals at Apex and tell Mario or Chris that r3dn3ck sent you. (408-588-0075) They have them in stock.
Do you say "Hi, R three d n three ck, sent me"?
 
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