Help! Fuel pump issue.
#1
Help! Fuel pump issue.
:helpsmili Guys, how hard is it to change a fuel pump. My fuel pump went bad according to the dealer,(Sunrise Ford) and they totalled up the amount of about $750 to fix it. The fuel pump is $306 and the labor is 4.5 hrs at $83 per hour. And the fuel filter is $20 and they said that would take a 1/2 hour to put that in , yeah right.
Does anybody know of a link or something, or a book I can get so I can replace the pump myself. I'm not a great mechanic but I am a pretty good do it yourselfer. :helpsmili Thanks Mark M
Does anybody know of a link or something, or a book I can get so I can replace the pump myself. I'm not a great mechanic but I am a pretty good do it yourselfer. :helpsmili Thanks Mark M
#3
ok i found the link its pretty detailed and yes it is that easy. just be sure to ground your self to the tank before you wrench on it.
edit forgot the link http://www.dndgarage.net/focuspumpinstall.htm
edit forgot the link http://www.dndgarage.net/focuspumpinstall.htm
#4
It's totally doable at home.
306 for the fuel pump is ****** ludicrous. 4.5hrs is even more ludicrous.
Buy yourself a high flow pump (focus or aviator pump if you have a 99+ modular motor). they cost about 125 retail. Filter is 5 bucks. install is easiest with an empty tank. Watch the vapors and keep yourself grounded and you'll be fine.
306 for the fuel pump is ****** ludicrous. 4.5hrs is even more ludicrous.
Buy yourself a high flow pump (focus or aviator pump if you have a 99+ modular motor). they cost about 125 retail. Filter is 5 bucks. install is easiest with an empty tank. Watch the vapors and keep yourself grounded and you'll be fine.
#5
Holy cow.. That's terrible.
Definately a do it yourself job (it helps to have a helper though).
Run gas out of tank (close to empty to make it lighter)- unhook battery
Drop tank, unhook electrical and gas lines (need cheap plastic tool to unhook the lines - can get at most auto stores or sears)
Remove pump from inside tank; unbolt pump from housing; install new pump ($100-$200 but recomend Focus SVT pump) reverse of the removal
Reinstall pump in tank (don't make any sparks when you put back the retaining ring)
Hook up electrical lines and fuel lines, put tank back where goes
swap in new fuel pump in front of tank (easy and costs $10 at autozone)
Hook battery back up; Turn key over but don't start, listen for fuel pump buzz, will be loud and then get quieter as lines pressurize.. .I think I got it all
Definately a do it yourself job (it helps to have a helper though).
Run gas out of tank (close to empty to make it lighter)- unhook battery
Drop tank, unhook electrical and gas lines (need cheap plastic tool to unhook the lines - can get at most auto stores or sears)
Remove pump from inside tank; unbolt pump from housing; install new pump ($100-$200 but recomend Focus SVT pump) reverse of the removal
Reinstall pump in tank (don't make any sparks when you put back the retaining ring)
Hook up electrical lines and fuel lines, put tank back where goes
swap in new fuel pump in front of tank (easy and costs $10 at autozone)
Hook battery back up; Turn key over but don't start, listen for fuel pump buzz, will be loud and then get quieter as lines pressurize.. .I think I got it all
#6
1 typo 2nd from the bottom but other than that, that's how I've seen it go. swap in new fuel filter in front of tank... 10 bucks at any-ol-parts-store. Make sure you have the fuel line disconnect tool or you'll never get it done.
#7
Thanks guys for the quick response. Keep the info coming if there is more to learn. I had the car towed to the dealer with AAA membership. I'll have towed to my home now with the same membership. But I'll have to pay the Ford dealer $83 for the diasgnostics. Thanks again, Mark M
#10
No, the SVT Focus fuel pump is a stock ford part number and is relatively inexpensive. It also flows like 230lph or so which is plenty for most streetable applications.
You can also use the Aviator pump which comes from... the Lincoln Aviator. It's in the same performance class as the SVT Focus pump.
You can also use the Aviator pump which comes from... the Lincoln Aviator. It's in the same performance class as the SVT Focus pump.
#13
Anybody got the part # on the SVT Focus pump? Or What year Focus?
You mean this pump will fit and wire up perfectly to the Mustang GT? How about the Aviator pump?
I checked out the website Stanger sent me and I'm ready to swap that pump out, just need the part. Mark M
You mean this pump will fit and wire up perfectly to the Mustang GT? How about the Aviator pump?
I checked out the website Stanger sent me and I'm ready to swap that pump out, just need the part. Mark M
#14
02-04 SVT focus. Flow is 190lph.
Aviator is 230lph and you can use any year aviator pump.
You can get them at rpmoutlet.com or call up MT, or call up my pals at Apex and tell Mario or Chris that r3dn3ck sent you. (408-588-0075) They have them in stock.
Yes. These pumps are identical in every respect except for flow rating to the stock unit in the 99+ Mustang GT and V6 and in 99 & 01 cobras.
You never told us (or I can't see it) what year and trim level stang you have. Important detail...
Aviator is 230lph and you can use any year aviator pump.
You can get them at rpmoutlet.com or call up MT, or call up my pals at Apex and tell Mario or Chris that r3dn3ck sent you. (408-588-0075) They have them in stock.
Yes. These pumps are identical in every respect except for flow rating to the stock unit in the 99+ Mustang GT and V6 and in 99 & 01 cobras.
You never told us (or I can't see it) what year and trim level stang you have. Important detail...
#16
My God, don't pay a dealer to do this!
Buy the Focus pump....$125 or so. It will have to be modified slightly for your car and it requires dropping the fuel tank.
If you have ZERO mechanical talent, find someone on the forums who lives near you for help. This should take no longer then 2 hours. OR, find a reputable mechanic and provide them with the instructions.
Consider this, Dave Kauffman is installing my entire blower and intercooler which includes a focus fuel pump for $750. The trick is to have someone who knows Mustangs and appreciates this kind of stuff to do the work. Don't pay a dealer.
Buy the Focus pump....$125 or so. It will have to be modified slightly for your car and it requires dropping the fuel tank.
If you have ZERO mechanical talent, find someone on the forums who lives near you for help. This should take no longer then 2 hours. OR, find a reputable mechanic and provide them with the instructions.
Consider this, Dave Kauffman is installing my entire blower and intercooler which includes a focus fuel pump for $750. The trick is to have someone who knows Mustangs and appreciates this kind of stuff to do the work. Don't pay a dealer.
#17
Originally Posted by r3dn3ck
02-04 SVT focus. Flow is 190lph.
Aviator is 230lph and you can use any year aviator pump.
You can get them at rpmoutlet.com or call up MT, or call up my pals at Apex and tell Mario or Chris that r3dn3ck sent you. (408-588-0075) They have them in stock.
Yes. These pumps are identical in every respect except for flow rating to the stock unit in the 99+ Mustang GT and V6 and in 99 & 01 cobras.
You never told us (or I can't see it) what year and trim level stang you have. Important detail...
Aviator is 230lph and you can use any year aviator pump.
You can get them at rpmoutlet.com or call up MT, or call up my pals at Apex and tell Mario or Chris that r3dn3ck sent you. (408-588-0075) They have them in stock.
Yes. These pumps are identical in every respect except for flow rating to the stock unit in the 99+ Mustang GT and V6 and in 99 & 01 cobras.
You never told us (or I can't see it) what year and trim level stang you have. Important detail...
#20
walbro are great. The only thing that stopped me from mentioning it was a note from my tuner that the returnless systems on 99+ cars uses a different mechanism to manage the fuel supply (one is fixed voltage the other is variable voltage) and they've seen an inordinate amount of fuel pumps burn up when used on 99+ cars. That may or may not be a real case but I'm giving info to a newb so I thought going with a factory ford part that's used on returnless cars would be safest.
I have a Vortech 255 intank but I also plan to go return style pretty soon and slap an A1000 on so I wasn't concerned with too much longevity for mine.
Now take off the flame suit and join the party. Even if your recommendations are biased toward what you use personally. I seem to recall reading your rave review of walbro pumps so why not assume you are actually satisfied.
I have a Vortech 255 intank but I also plan to go return style pretty soon and slap an A1000 on so I wasn't concerned with too much longevity for mine.
Now take off the flame suit and join the party. Even if your recommendations are biased toward what you use personally. I seem to recall reading your rave review of walbro pumps so why not assume you are actually satisfied.
#22
Originally Posted by r3dn3ck
walbro are great. The only thing that stopped me from mentioning it was a note from my tuner that the returnless systems on 99+ cars uses a different mechanism to manage the fuel supply (one is fixed voltage the other is variable voltage) and they've seen an inordinate amount of fuel pumps burn up when used on 99+ cars. That may or may not be a real case but I'm giving info to a newb so I thought going with a factory ford part that's used on returnless cars would be safest.
I have a Vortech 255 intank but I also plan to go return style pretty soon and slap an A1000 on so I wasn't concerned with too much longevity for mine.
Now take off the flame suit and join the party. Even if your recommendations are biased toward what you use personally. I seem to recall reading your rave review of walbro pumps so why not assume you are actually satisfied.
I have a Vortech 255 intank but I also plan to go return style pretty soon and slap an A1000 on so I wasn't concerned with too much longevity for mine.
Now take off the flame suit and join the party. Even if your recommendations are biased toward what you use personally. I seem to recall reading your rave review of walbro pumps so why not assume you are actually satisfied.
Yes the Walbros are great! They just have a bad name with us returnless style owners. My pump is fine and Ive hd it on here for about a year now. I think its great but theres allways people that will say oh thats the wrong pump.......Thats why I put the suit on. I am not biased toward what I use. I am simply telling him what I KNOW will work. I havent tried the Focus pump. I dont know if it would be better or worse. So instead of bieng like everyone else who has had no experience with one and telling them to get the focus, I tell them about what I know works. Yes I am satisfied, If the plugs are black with fuel after a hard pass then im satisfied.........
#23
Originally Posted by markm
How many GPH does a stock GT pump flow? Mark M
Oh yeah, what does it mean , "Ground yourself to the tank when replacing the fuel pump."
Oh yeah, what does it mean , "Ground yourself to the tank when replacing the fuel pump."
#25
Originally Posted by r3dn3ck
You can get them at rpmoutlet.com or call up MT, or call up my pals at Apex and tell Mario or Chris that r3dn3ck sent you. (408-588-0075) They have them in stock.
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